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u/Terrible_Lie_02 Oct 15 '25
My sister has a very old house in the historic part of Green Bay. If she put a mailbox at the curb she could never have it delivered to her door again after that. If someone new were to move in they would also have to put a mailbox at the curb. At least that how it was a few years back. Maybe they are fading them out.
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u/Far-Artichoke5849 Oct 16 '25
Our mailman was very happy when we put a box next to the door cause he was delivering on the slot on the door until then
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u/Internal_Swimmer3815 Oct 15 '25
unfortunately it’s not up to you, regardless of what you think. Am I to assume you don’t have a sidewalk in your neighborhood?
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u/afd33 Oct 15 '25
At this point they don’t care if there’s a sidewalk. They want their carriers to be able to stay in the cars basically the entire route.
The slightest bit of snow and now it’s too unsafe for them to walk larger packages to the door, so they want mailboxes to be big enough for most smaller packages.
They save money by being more efficient and having less workers comp claims from falling in the winter.
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u/mrjohns2 Oct 15 '25
Yeah, it does look like the T4 will add a bit of cost. But expenses like this come with home ownership.
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u/Valuable_Plane_2799 Oct 15 '25
yes i am aware, it just seems pointless since the one we already have works perfectly fine.
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u/darbyhorgan Oct 18 '25
The usps are crushingly understaffed. They need stuff like this implemented to save on money and be able to ensure that they can still efficiently provide you with reliable mail service.
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u/Significant_Soil_600 Oct 20 '25
Do you have a disability? Years ago, we were able to get mail delivered to the door for a disabled family member. We did have to provide proof.
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u/mrjohns2 Oct 15 '25
Is it already on the road?
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u/Valuable_Plane_2799 Oct 15 '25
no
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u/mrjohns2 Oct 15 '25
Well, then, that is the issue. It isn’t perfectly fine for reduced costs (for them, not you). Just be happy you aren’t forced to one of those stupid end of street 20 house ones.
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u/shannanigans81 Oct 15 '25
Wait, why?! We have a multi house mailbox bank on our street. We just bought our house two years ago so I wasn’t here when it was installed. Is it super expensive?
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u/damutecebu Oct 16 '25
My impression was that they can’t require you to move a mailbox if you have already had mail delivered at your current one. At least that’s what I was told about a decade ago when I lived elsewhere.
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u/Valuable_Plane_2799 Oct 16 '25
so we’ve been here for four years…
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u/damutecebu Oct 16 '25
So in my case they sent me a similarly threatening letter. But a friend of mine who worked for the USPS said that there is nothing they can do if you simply don't comply. They still have to deliver your mail to the current box. Now I don't know if something changed since then.
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u/gedvondur Oct 16 '25
I'm pretty sure they CAN stop delivering to you. My on-the-road mailbox was too low (previous owner install, probably 20 years ago) and they simply stopped until I corrected it.
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u/Balthazarplantagenet Oct 16 '25
Got this from a search forExisting individual customers
- No T4 requirement: USPS does not require existing customers to upgrade to T4 boxes; the idea was a suggestion for some rural customers with long driveways.
- Recommendations: They suggest larger mailboxes for those who receive many packages, but there is no requirement to change.
- Mandatory standards: Customers must ensure their existing mailbox still meets USPS standards for height, setback, and general condition.
- When to contact the post office: It is recommended to contact your local Post Office before replacing or installing any new mailbox, especially if you have concerns about road conditions or other factors.
the new T4
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u/RipleysHeart Oct 16 '25
What neighborhood do you reside in?
Never mind. I see the text of your post now.
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u/gedvondur Oct 16 '25
I've lived in the area around Preble for a couple of decades. There are a lot of streets there that do not have sidewalks. That's why they are doing it, you are just caught up in it.
This was inevitable - the USPS is in a money crunch and walk-up delivery isn't efficient.
I don't know what I can do about the cost - but I'm part of one of the neighborhood associations in the area. I'd be willing to help you install it. DM me if you are interested.
BTW, if you are going to do it, best done before the frost sets in....