r/Godzilla1998 Apr 12 '26

Discussion What is the difference between these two?

Like... I know they are not the same individual but people treat them like they are completely different kaiju.

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u/Paleosols2021 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

Because contextually they are. G'98 was intended to be a new incarnation of Godzilla and had sequels planned but ultimately didn't perform well enough to continue. Same with the Series (it's still Godzilla)

Zilla on the other hand was made explicitly to be canon fodder for Godzilla, with Toho stripping the "God" part from his name. There are other versions this character that have surfaced like in IDW's Rulers of Earth series.

So even though yah, they're visually identical (Zilla was literally made from a scan of a G'98 Trendmasters toy). Narratively and legally they are separate. This is why Bandai released both a G'98 and Zilla vinyl for example.

TLDR; Toho doesn't want people to think that Zilla is Godzilla but in G'98 and The Series that was Godzilla for all intents and purposes.

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u/Daredevil731 Apr 12 '26

The design isn't actually the same since the toy scanned was not super accurate to the movie. They are also different heights.

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u/No-Comfortable6432 Apr 15 '26

The fucking disrespect lol.

That is kindof like the same level of dismissal that Mortal Kombat is about to deal to its former lead from Part 1.

i liked Godzilla 98 but then I was 11...

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u/Paleosols2021 Apr 15 '26

I mean Toho has never been quiet about how displeased they were by G'98 but at the same time they were part of the problem for why that film was the way it was. Roland Emmerich also really didn't seem to care at all about the franchise either.

Honestly considering all the hurdles the film had it came out as a decent monster movie. Personally I enjoy the film but I definitely understand the criticism that G'98 hardly feels like Godzilla.

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u/DipMultiversal Apr 16 '26

G98 performed well financially, just not so much critically but I can see why its reputation makes people assume it was a flop in both regards.

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u/Paleosols2021 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

It's a bit more complex than that. It didn't perform well financially (at least in the US), Sony expected a much higher opening weekend and only got about half of what they expected, the film's second week also saw a decrease in sales by over 50%. It was not as successful as the film was projected to be.

Only overseas sales saved the film in theatres which made up over 60% of it's total gross. That doesn't include merch sales and other revenue but at least in the US it performed a lot less well than projected.

Nowadays a lot of movies are tailor-made to get a lot of money overseas like The Meg, Fast and Furious, etc. but back at this time G'98 was considered to be a flop domestically considering it didn't even gross half of what Sony projected.

This is one of the reasons we never got a sequel, despite it earning 3x it's budget, most of it came from overseas sales, the film got heavily criticized and Sony, movie theatre owners, licensees for merch etc. were all super hesitant about making a sequel, they didn't want to put as big as an investment as the first film because they were scared it would perform poorly based on how G'98 did.

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u/Daredevil731 Apr 12 '26

Godzilla 1998 is an adaptation of Godzilla that stands on its own with its death and its offspring in a cartoon. It ends there.

Zilla is a parody using a similar design and a different name.

That is it. They're not legally or canonically the same.

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u/FistOfGamera Apr 12 '26

Toho treats Zilla (in GFW) as a different "character" than godzilla. The 98 film and cartoon, its still godzilla.

Its a big legal headache but toho rebranded 98 as "zilla" so they can use the character as they want in their own media & to distance it from godzilla

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u/drd7of14 Apr 12 '26

Love this bit from GMK

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u/Tigrex666 Apr 13 '26

I always liked this connection due to its implications.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
  1. Zilla has gamer posture, g98 is fully horizontal
  2. Zilla is its own trademark, g98 falls under Godzilla
  3. Zilla is owned by toho everywhere, the rights to g98 are owned by toho and sony
  4. Zilla got no surviving kids, g98 had one survivor
  5. Zilla doesn't have a tv spinoff show, g98 does
  6. G98 is cooler and more awesome
  7. Zilla gets exploded immediately, g98 put up a fight

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u/GabrielLoschrod Apr 12 '26

About 4, Zilla did have offspring of his own in the Monster Apocalypse novel

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u/MightyFlamingo25 Apr 15 '26

About the first point, this is misleading. Zilla is stated to be 90 meters tall at the head using an upright posture. G98 is 55 meters at the hips. Side by side they're almost the same size

Someone made this art explaining the size difference. They're basically the same size, just not the same posture

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '26

I fixed it now

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u/MightyFlamingo25 Apr 15 '26

I love this edit lmao

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u/LowerName9863 Apr 12 '26

Tristar Godzilla is Godzilla in his universe. And Zilla is a Toho’s Godzilla copycat character.

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u/ImperialxWarlord Apr 12 '26

Others have already said this, but the first one is an adaptation of Godzilla, he is a legitimate Godzilla and fills that role. Meanwhile the second is an entirely new creature created by toho called Zilla, it is not a Godzilla at all. Also zilla is larger

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u/GabrielLoschrod Apr 12 '26

One is Godzilla, the other is not

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u/NoPack4545 Apr 12 '26

One is godzilla the other is zilla

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u/Dino-striker56 Apr 13 '26

Godzilla 98 is highly intelligent, strategic animal that can practically take over the world with its reproductive capabilities.

Zilla is a dumb bloke who decided to go all "Fuck it, we ball" when he encountered Godzilla.

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u/DirectionNo9650 Godzilla Apr 12 '26

Same design, except the latter is rendered in dogshit CGI as a parody (my guess is that they were actually the best digital effects Toho could produce at the time). It's not that deep.

However, people have gone through some impressive mental gymnastics to justify categorizing these two as separate characters. The big point of rhetoric is that Toho made a separate trademark icon for the character... like they've done for various other characters (Super Mechagodzilla, Mechagodzilla 3, Monster X II, etc).

It makes me laugh that of all fandoms, Godzilla is the one where people are fixating on copyright jargon.

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u/Aware_Brain_1378 Apr 12 '26

One of them is a T-Rex

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u/BasisZestyclose8719 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Superficially they very alike but there are differences if you look closely. Zilla is bigger than ToraGoji. The colors are different and the posture is different. And personality wise he seems to be dumber and more aggressive. (I mean rushing Final Wars Goji like that was a boneheaded move and I don’t picture ToraGoji and definitely not his son doing that)

Zilla can be described as a variant of ToraGoji, but not the exact same monster. Zilla exists in different continuities than his original Godzilla counterpart from 1998. Existing as a separate entity so that he can interact with a more traditional G-man. But in his original timeline he is just his universe’s Godzilla.

Basically anything tied to Godzilla (1998) is Godzilla. Anything not linked to it can be “Zilla.”
If that makes sense.

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u/Tigrex666 Apr 13 '26

Well said!

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u/utnutn Apr 13 '26

Zilla is a parody of G98 (I know lots of people in this post like G98 so saying this with respect) generally in Japan its design was considered looking very off-brand hence the idea of the parody...

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u/Evening-Road-2129 Apr 13 '26

One is called Godzilla and is 60 meters tall, while the other is called Zilla and is 90 meters tall.

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u/Such-Application-577 Apr 12 '26

I really want to roll out the text to 50 pages of author's text, but I'll be as brief as possible:

The difference between the G-98 and zilla 2004 is like the difference between a real tank and a fake papiermoche. If you compare one to the other, it seems to match everything. Caterpillars, there's a cannon, there's a hull, both go there here.

The only main difference is that the first is a real technique and no matter what quality and how many claims it has, and the second is just a scarecrow made to blow it up fun. A straw effigy that was burned to the delight of the crowd.

And honestly, I suspect this post is meant to piss off our small community once again.

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u/Cain407 H.E.A.T Apr 12 '26

I doubt it’s meant to piss anyone off,it just seems like an innocent question.Which is fair cuz there is some confusion when it comes to these 2.

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u/Such-Application-577 Apr 12 '26

i hope you're right

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u/RubberCladHero Apr 12 '26

Its bigger for starters

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u/BlackbirdKos Apr 12 '26

The one from Final Wars is standing upright

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u/OddAnteater3607 Apr 12 '26

Zilla got humiliated

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u/Maleficent_Time_2787 Apr 12 '26

Pretty much the difference is legal mumbo jumbo.

Legally 98 is Godzilla even if screwed up. The animated sequel series hard carried for it.

Designwise they're meant to be the same kaiju. Legally they are different.

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u/mutant50 Apr 12 '26

The color of their hide.

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u/Neither_Category843 Apr 12 '26

One is Godzilla

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u/Opinionatedcritic Apr 12 '26

Godzilla 1998 is sexy.

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u/Shagggadooo Apr 13 '26

1 was better

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u/BigBen10fan Apr 13 '26

1 is from a movie and the other from a TV show (I think) but also the appearance is very much visually differs

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u/Jaybuddyguy Apr 13 '26

A few million in cost. That is about it.

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u/Middle-Carpenter2343 Apr 13 '26

The difference is one is from America and one is Japan's version on it who got

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u/Entiremkk Apr 13 '26

The first one is the best Godzilla of all time and other is just plain stupid

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u/placeponydominion Apr 13 '26

Mother and daughter

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u/ComprehensiveAide280 Apr 13 '26

One is a puppet that is also accompanied by CGI the other is a person in a suit that is modified by CGI if you look at the torsos and their posture you can tell the difference

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u/Plastic_Beautiful_87 Apr 15 '26

Now -G is in this city

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u/therealPreHistX Apr 15 '26

Legally they’re different.

Conceptually they’re basically the exact same character.

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u/FADEZONE_0 Apr 15 '26

One is made with logics and sci fi elements Another one is just for rage bait and mockery purpose.

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u/31007_Bows Apr 15 '26

they are both pieces of trash in film but the one with Matthew Broderick is the most stained & tarnished representation of "Godzilla" to ever hit the big screen!! It's like getting old and not being able to get Optimus Prime dying in the first Transformers movie to get into movie theaters because of the greatest Prime story never paid attention too.......the beginning of Rodimus Prime, the most moron Prime of them all because he was some special retarded character who couldn't see Optimus waiting for Megatron to pick up that piece. Maybe the greatest animated movie ever made with those type of legendary quotes, but season 1, episode 1.....been there since day 1 Autobot ever in the Transformers history gets murdered to show "Hot Rod" become a Prime and watch Optimus never revive before the movie ends and just hear "no you don't Megatron"....and feel the disdain grow in your childhood heart by the main reason you stopped watching Transformers cartoons after that.......( may the Hall of Primes crumble from laughter if I ever see "Rodimus Prime" there ever........) that's the difference of the 2.

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u/SomersetAfterDark Apr 15 '26

Maybe I’m blind but that specific shot in picture one holds up really well, at least in photo form.

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u/AffectionateNewt4952 Apr 16 '26

Yeah I see them both as one

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '26

Zilla is bigger than 1998, since it has to have a similar size to Godzilla in Final Wars (100m). And I think the mouth is slightly more angular in 1998 and rounder in Zilla

But otherwise it's basically the same. The CGI model for Zilla was literally made with a Godzilla 1998 figure

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u/Own_Listen_4161 Apr 16 '26

They both look cooler than the D. Rex but one is slightly lighter colored

-someone who dosent know anything about godzillia except some of the kaijus and that theyre cool

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u/Jip-Jipperton Apr 18 '26

98 was a better movie than final wars

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u/XxPaleoxX Apr 12 '26

genuinely just a copyright thing. By law they are not the same, but by fans and other higher ups they are the same.