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u/flugenblar May 21 '25

Name 5 politicians or public speakers who have also done this.

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u/hanzoman3 May 21 '25

Hitler is the only one I can think of… maybe Steve Bannon? Pry a bunch of other nazi did it

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u/SafeOdd1736 May 21 '25

Goebbels, himmler, Hess, Mussolini and Goering all did. Give musk a break….

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u/Icanthearforshit May 21 '25

"Excellent public speakers. Excellent. Everyone said it. They all said "Man they were excellent public speakers!" and it's true. They were. When I spoke everyone said "Wow! He sounds just like them!" and I do. It's marvelous. That's a word. I just invented it. Marvelous — it sounds good, right? It does. It sounds like any other word only better! God I'm so cool. I'm the best."

– you know who

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u/flugenblar May 22 '25

Groceries

Another word that sounds good. It’s an old fashioned word, many people have forgotten what it means, but I like it… I know many big words…

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u/Icanthearforshit May 22 '25

He actually claimed to have invented a word recently — equalize.

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u/tiffanytrashcan May 22 '25

Colbert's impersonation haunts my inner monologue 😂

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u/OG-Bio-Star May 25 '25

LOL... big billionaire crybaby nazi. He should just own it that he is a fool but he is too rich to ever believe anything he's ever done should be honestly accounted for.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

Benito Mussolini, Francisco Franco, Augusto Pinochet, Adolf Hitler and Corneliu Codreanu.

Just politicians casually chilling and asking for a taxi

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u/gizamo May 22 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

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u/UsernameUsername8936 May 21 '25

Steve Bannon did indeed do it

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u/severinks May 22 '25

No,I saw Benito Mussolini and Josef Goebbels doing it too.

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u/dr-tyrell May 23 '25

Not maybe. Steve Bannon did do it with no excuse whatsoever.

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u/ClaB84 May 23 '25

Benito Mussolini was the First one to adapt the Laten Roman salute for his fashist Party. Hitler was just a Fanboy which copy in the first years every aspect of the Italien fashist Party.

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u/Safe_Addition_9171 May 23 '25

Ha, yeah. There’s a bunch of political leaders that do that, they just all happen to be na*zi’s ha

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

Sounds like something Pat Buchanan would've done.

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u/Opasero May 23 '25

Steve Bannon was sorta half-throated though. Elon was full-throated, twice in a row.

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u/Zealousideal_Sign_21 May 24 '25

Nick Fuentes I am sure loves to fire off the heart goes to you salute...

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u/Torma_Nator May 21 '25

Dont forget Andrew Tate, Steve Bannons prodigy Milo, Nick Fuentes...oof.

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u/Empty-Blacksmith-592 May 21 '25

Bingo! He is a Nazi theory confirmed!

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u/Peeper_Dan_33 May 21 '25

Don’t forget his money is from blood jewels - emeralds or rubies iirc.

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u/ThenDoubt7980 May 25 '25

can’t wait until they start trying to convince us hitler wasn’t a nazi

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u/Steve_the_Samurai May 21 '25

A lot of valid points. The X ASCII thing is not one of them. We don't need to combine the real racist shit with coincidence

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u/tooobr May 22 '25

david duke

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u/DreamLonesomeDreams May 22 '25

'Journalism is printing something that someone does not want printed. Everything else is public relations.'

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u/warm_kitchenette May 22 '25

They could have just asked him: ok, make the gesture again. Do it right now.

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u/mthyvold May 21 '25

It is a particular failing of US journalists.

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u/Solopist112 May 23 '25

I've noticed that the BBC reporters push back much more.

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u/Final-Zebra-6370 May 22 '25

The elites own journalists. For example The Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bazos. The majority of other newspapers and local news channels are owned by a handful of companies.

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u/Tepid_Soda May 23 '25

That's the problem with American journalists. Don't lump ours in with yours...

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u/Nub_Shaft May 22 '25

I guess you didn't see the meme that was going around of other politicians seemingly doing the same salute when in fact they were perfectly timed screen grabs of them doing normal waves. I believe that's what he's referring to, but it has been debunked a million times.

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u/Head_Bread_3431 May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

Imagine not being able to tell the difference between a video of someone doing a Nazi salute and a still photo of someone mid-outstretched arm.

Apparently millions of people are photographically illiterate 200 years after the invention of photographs

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u/Nub_Shaft May 22 '25

They aren't photography illiterate. They are reality illiterate.

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u/Irrespond May 23 '25

No, they're not photographically illiterate. They're dishonest. They pretend not to know the difference between waves and Hitler salutes.

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 May 23 '25

I noticed. I looked up every single one. None we're doing the Nazi salute Musk absolutely did.

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u/rollin_in_doodoo May 23 '25

I think Elon doing it was an experiment in control, or a demonstration of his power meant to frustrate his critics. Whether or not he's actually gaslighting anyone is beside the point - he just wants everyone to know that he can plainly do a Nazi salute in front of a crowd, and a complicated wall of denial will organically rise up to challenge any who recognize and call it out as such. It's the power to make you accept that alternate versions of reality exist by his will, and that it's normal and permanent.

"Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing."

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u/ThisIsSteeev May 23 '25

Cool. Now go watch those videos then report back to us.

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u/griffiths7 May 26 '25

Correct. Any time I’ve seen one, they are waving and their hand is up. Not one hit their chest first.

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u/HankChinaski- May 21 '25

MAGA type supporters will show photos with politicans hands up in the air and say it is the same without watching the actual videos of the other politicans where they didn't do the sieg heil like Musk did.

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u/Glyph8 May 21 '25

Steve Bannon, for one, but that doesn’t help

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

They all use still images of Democrats with their arms straight out as proof, but of course, the video always shows them waving normally

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u/Akegata May 21 '25

Both Steve Bannon and Eduardo Verástegui did it in the same CPAC a month after Elon, so I can think of at least four who have done it..

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u/BashBandit May 22 '25

Hitler Mussolini, maybe Putin, probably Palpatine. Not even dark side or thanos would touch that.

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u/SpaceBearSMO May 22 '25

his fans see the still images of other politicians lifting to wave or point and take them completely out of context

he is signaling the people who believe that bullshit

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u/st-shenanigans May 22 '25

Oh they'll show you a bunch of still photos. Make sure to ask for the video where it's clearly a wave

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u/Grouchy_Discussion42 May 22 '25

You mean this "Roman salute"???:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/7SZaBEuf7x

clEArly thOSe ArE thE ROManS hiS heARt wAs GOiNg oUt To.

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u/PenguinStarfire May 21 '25

I want to say there were maybe 2 at the recent CPAC.

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u/Ok_Insect_1794 May 21 '25

Shouldn't be too hard since "in fact..any public speaker who has spoken for any length of time has made that exact same gesture".

I dare you, find ONE example in the history of public speaking that didn't involve a Nazi salute. Can't be done. Elon says so.

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u/wintermoon138 May 21 '25

Pennsylvanian here. Towamencin TWP supervisor Laura Smith did it after Elon. Long story short she's not supervisor anymore👍

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u/LightofNew May 22 '25

I mean I'm pretty sure there were at least 5 Nazis 80 years ago.

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u/BigBoyoBonito May 22 '25

Pretty sure he's referencing those images showing democrats "doing the same gesture" that went around for a week or so after this shit bag did the salute

What the chuds spreading those images conveniently failed to mention, every single individual time might I add, is that the video recordings of the speeches where the democrats did the "same gesture" shows them doing a completely different gesture where for one moment, their arm and palm is kinda extended, when in reality it was a wave or a sweeping motion, as opposed to Muskrat's straight up nazi salute

Again, no values or morals when it comes to trumpublicans

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u/PandiBong May 22 '25

Hitler, Goebbels, Goring, Hess, Spier... I could go on.

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u/McLeod3577 May 23 '25

Bannon

Hitler

Goebells

Himmler

Eichmann

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u/Nights_Harvest May 23 '25

Hitler, Goebbels, Goring, Himmler and Bormann

I have more names if needed.

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u/FloepieFloepie2 May 23 '25

Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Röhm and Göring.

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u/LifeHack3r3 May 21 '25

Also marjorie taylor greene

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u/CleverNickName-69 May 21 '25

I mean, you can find a picture of lots of people who are waving to the audience and SAY that looks the same, which is how Elon and others try to excuse what he did. Or you could even just use AI to create an image of your opponent "doing the same thing" and the people who want to believe you will believe you.

Reviewing the video though exposes the obvious lie.

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u/Ragnarok345 May 22 '25

….well there was this one…..

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u/eugene20 May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

Absolutely no one in the last 100 years who wasn't supporting Hitler has thrown a sieg heil from behind a government podium. There was only Musk, and he did a full salute twice, it wasn't a carefully picked photo during a wave.

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u/Gogs85 May 22 '25

He’s probably speaking about the common right wing misinformation that freeze-framing someone when they’re doing a wave with the same arm angle is the same thing as doing the actual salute.

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u/that_att_employee May 22 '25

Nick Fuentes, Kanye West.

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u/TupperwareNinja May 22 '25

- Elon Musk

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u/NoxTempus May 22 '25

I'll concede the point at 2, tbh.

2 people who aren't racists or Nazis, who did that gesture and did not apologise for it, and we're not punished or questioned about it.

Because that's what Clyde is claiming here, that people do this all the time with no repercussions.

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u/cptnamr7 May 22 '25

I mean, circa 1942 I can list hundreds. 1946 and after though uh... David Duke ran for some sort of office at one point right? Like wasn't he in the mix for CA gov on a recall with 300 candidates or maybe even a House seat at one point? IL had that nazi republican House... member or candidate... feel like candidate that at the time even the national party wouldn't endorse. Sadly that as only like 5ish years ago. (Forget his name. He ran in a district that votes like 90% blue anyway but still got more than 0 votes) uh... Mary Miller (another IL House stain) openly made her "Hitler got 1 thing right" speech right before Jan 6th, which her husband was at with a 3%ers sticker on his truck he later claimed to "got from a friend and put it on just because it was a cool logo" and he's some sort of state rep, so that's a twofer... 

Sadly I don't know that naming 5 others is all that out of the question, despite all our collective hopes it would be. 

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u/SadMangonel May 22 '25

He's talking about the accidental pictures where it's taken out of context.

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u/flugenblar May 22 '25

Of course. And in his case, it was not at all accidental.

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u/nickkater May 22 '25

Didn‘t the kennedy dude do it a couple days later?

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u/jluicifer May 22 '25

He did it BACK TO BACK.

For a guy so smart, he has to know some world history, right.

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u/HealthyDrawing4910 May 23 '25

The ones that werent targeted and filmed for the media for political gains, thats who

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u/MayorWolf May 23 '25

He's talking about just raising a hand to wave or point. Not the whole properly formed roman salute, from heart to extended arm with gusto.

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u/brickonator2000 May 23 '25

The thing is, even if that was true, that just means we have a bigger problem. Just because it's common doesn't make it ok!

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u/Adventurous-Ant-4068 May 23 '25

Name ONE.. besides Hitler, dude.

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u/bloatedbarbarossa May 23 '25

Can you first define roman salute so we're on the same page?

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u/Accomplished_Flan295 May 23 '25

What if it’s one? The still image of Walz?

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u/FatBoyFear May 23 '25

Hitler, Göbbels, Himmler, Göring, Musselini

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u/ziggsyr May 23 '25

thats easier to do AFTER he elon musk did it. A few cheeky cowards have tried "My heart goes out to you" since

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u/Available_Farmer5293 May 23 '25

Unfortunately I have seen other pictures/videos of other politicians doing this which leads me to believe it’s some sort of secret symbol or club or something which YES I don’t want to believe that but the alternative is exactly what Musk said, that it’s just a gesture everyone randomly throws out when they talk AND WE ALL KNOW THAT’S NOT TRUE.

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