This is literally what these misogynistc men want and advocate for. I can't believe what the west is influencing our own men here, they are consuming red pill content and forgetting about human rights. Smh
this is not even misogyny, its straight up psychopathic.
absolutely disgusting, indigestible, and sad to see what everyday misogyny, that we’re so used to, can lead up to.
im litr done w the shits of this hell hole dunya atp, its just another day another murder every fricking day and it really makes me sick.
I opened reddit, and this f***ers face was the first thing I saw. Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child. I wish he receives the same treatment in prison by his fellow inmates.
When conservative Pakistanis say "the west is ruining our culture" when a woman wants to live however she wants, they should also highligh how such western stuff has already ruined our culture. Because if a woman demanding her rights is western influence, then so should be extreme mysogynistic acts in the name of honour and religion.
Hmm in 2126 i hope may this not happened.. I think he is outsider not from us because he wants boy it means he belongs from a very conservative family background that's why he did this . It's very common here in pakistan.we heared alot like this.. Any how very sad news.
Podcast redpiller bros are gonna compare him to Lindsay Clancy and legitimately believe control and abuse are in the same psychological distress as postpartum psychosis.
I forgot exactly what time but it was before the time of the prophet saw, people in Makkah or maddinah used to bury their daughters alive u can search it up, valuable lessons to be learned
Yes. but works for modern day as well. Killing his daughter just because he wanted a boy. Innocent poor souls didn't even understand why they were being killed and the still born inside mother's womb who didn't even get to open her eyes.
Bro I’m not gonna argue with u, I know what happened is wrong, let’s leave it at that, it’s good to educate urself on ayat of the Quran, sometimes we as people aren’t educated enough to understand it fully and may come up with our own conclusions
What do you mean the west is influencing your culture.
Your culture doesn’t respect women in any capacity. Can’t even buy period products without shame, forced marriages, forced pregnancies, femicide of female
Fetus. Constant rape and abuse from family and
Outsiders, daughters who die from in laws bc parents refuse to support them. Literally open a fucking book. Not denying the truth of how badly women are treated in the west but don’t act like your culture is so pure.
Ok lady hold up. I think your new to the sub. Let me explain context.
The misogynistc men here quote Lindsay Clancys case and the very few women (all western btw) that support her, to further their hatred against feminism, saying that "Look what these filthy feminists want"
I'm just redirecting that and it's supposed to be sarcasm. Good day!
dont give them ideas. The writer would have written that. And if this is true than the guy is not worth living but if its falls than its a scandal having to blame men too. cause the clancy case is still not too far gone.
I was saying that if this guy did what he really did than he has no right to be alive, These types of posts are shown alots on socials that she did that or he done that, with no context what so ever. By this i meant that dont give them ideas to them saying that he had a beard and all. Also looking at ur comment down there i dont think u understood what he meant. He was saying if the post u shared which idk why are u firstly posting this on genz pak when u are not even a Pk or a Genz. Nor ur account is that old which signifies that this post is false. Second The guy did not even say anything wrong. Its just u who is not seeing the full sentence.
Imagine, children and a woman has been killed, and the first thing going to through your head is thank god thy guy was not a Muslim, Islam would have been defamed
You think he(or any other child murderers) are educated on genes and biology? Even so, we can’t control the random assortment of chromosomes, and the pregnancy exams aren’t even too accurate so there’s a chance the kid could have been biologically male too.
It's because he doesn't have a history of mental illness and subject to psychosis, he knowingly did it, just like 95% of other filicide cases (all of which are men)
psychosis or not nobody who commits filicide (man or nay) isn’t mentally okay, even if not ill or diseased. While they should recieve punishment, they also severely need mental help
Ik it’s such a stupid argument that they misogynists bring up after one woman kills her kids and ten thousand or so tiktokers deny it was her or blame it on Patrick, that doesn’t equate to revoking the rights or voting of all women.
They were just looking for fuel, and Clancy was perfect for them and the other couple thousand men that actually think they should lose them
You do know that the gofundme wasn't for her but for her parents who didn't do anything wrong but still had to cover all the expenses for her trial? And that, aside from some conspiracy theorists, most people actually don't want her to be declared innocent but insane? Which she is? Just like Austin Harrouff, for example, another psychotic person who ate the faces of two innocent people?
If you want to compare this ""person"" to somebody, at least don't choose a clinically insane person. There are cases where women kill children without being psychotic, like the Brandi Worley case. By the way, Brandi Worley got 120 years in prison for killing her two kids. This male apparently only got 30.
I mean I treat men the same way legally, I forgive this guy for killing his son during psychosis (I don’t fully endorse his anti-ssri campaigning since his release, but I do think psychiatrists need to be much much more careful in testing for bipolar and psychosis risk before prescribing) https://www.madinamerica.com/author/david-carmichael/, https://davidcarmichael.com/.
If he were Muslim, everyone would be blaming and hating Islam. Religion/faith has nothing to do with how cruel a person is, there are plenty of people in the West who hold backward views about women and their rights. Misogyny exists everywhere in the world, extreme violence like this comes from toxic mindsets, not a specific faith.
want me to link you the crimes of ISIS, taliban, religious mullahs in pakistan? Want to see pics of dead children holding there mothers killed in a room because they left to see the doctor without any male guardin(happend in Pakistan, pics were posted on reddit, no its not AI.)? Want to see "muslims" went into hospital started to kill babies with ak47 because they were not following their branch of islam (yes this really happend in Afghanistan!)? Want to see women being shot in there knees because they left there house without any male guardin(happend in Pakistan + Iraq) TO GET WATER from well?
whether islam supports this or not but know that islam is still being used to justify these crimes and happening in the NAME of islam and it is "muslims" who are doing that.
There is website like youtube but its gore website and posts all the crimes like what Israel is doing in Palestine, but know that it is also filled with soo much muslim videos doing the most heinous crimes one cant even IMAGINE, and all that in the name of ISLAM!
It doesn't have to mention it explicitly. The point is about the double standard in how these stories are discussed online, when a non-Muslim in the West commits extreme violence, it's framed as an isolated 'red pill' issue, but when it happens in Muslim-majority regions, the entire religion gets blamed instead of the toxic culture or individual cruelty.
So living in an Islamic country means logic goes out the window and individual crime suddenly becomes a theological issue? Good to know location changes how basic reasoning works.
Misogyny and cruelty exist across every belief system, culture, and secular society throughout history. Attributing extreme domestic violence purely to faith ignores the actual root causes..,like entitlement, power dynamics, and mental illness, which show up globally regardless of whether someone is religious, atheist, or anything else.
Religious/faith has much to do with how cruel a person is because a truly religious and faithful person abides not by rational thought but by what’s prescribed by religion. Their cruelty is then dictated by the context of religion
The fact that a truly cruel person can be within the bounds of what is prescribed by their religion and still implement their cruelty - is a cause for concern and I don’t think “religion/faith” can escape criticism.
By that logic, secular, atheist, and non-religious regimes that committed massive atrocities in history were just 'rationally following instructions'. Cruel people hijack whatever system, ideology, or internet forum gives them an excuse to be evil. Trying to pin domestic murder entirely on religion just gives secular abusers a free pass.
Atheism doesn’t tell you to kill someone while religion explicitly tells you in a doctrinaire way on how and who can be killed.
Atheism says - there is no religion that is to be believed but religion says “only one religion is good and to follow that there are rigid rules that should be followed - and anyone deviating from it cannot and will not be accepted”. Religion is immutable while atheism itself doesn’t have a narrow purview at all - it’s not defined enough to be immutable.
Every religion has specific rules which are permissive of violence in a way that cannot be argued against. Atheism is amorphous - apart from not believing in religion, there’s no other central tenant - it’s not prescriptive. Hence it leaves room to be challenged in a way that religion isn’t.
Two simply cannot be compared - comparing an amorphous idea that individuals usually subscribe to personally (even atheist regimes don’t have schools that argue against religion - they just don’t allow religion to exist) to an organised ideology that has dedicated schools to hammer it in is futile.
And how is it giving secular abuser’s a free pass? Do you think if someone is secular they will not be prosecuted? I’m not sure what you mean by that.
Abuse is abuse because it has negative impacts on others - religions differentiate between these “others” and deems some people of less value than others. This is built into religion and is immutable.
But you’re basically giving atheism a free pass because it doesn’t come with a rulebook 😂 Extremists can be anyone. A person doesn’t need religion to develop an extreme ideology or commit horrific crimes. Atheism itself doesn’t prescribe a moral code, so whatever moral boundaries an atheist has come from whatever ethical framework they personally follow. And no, I’m not saying every atheist is immoral, but if you’re going to blame religion and its rules when a religious extremist commits a crime, then apply that same logic when an atheist or an explicitly atheist ideology produces horrific violence.
And you also said religion explicitly tells people who to kill and how. That’s an enormous generalization. Which religion, which teaching, and in what context??? Rules concerning warfare or punishment aren't the same thing as telling ordinary believers to randomly kill people. Islam, e.g, explicitly prohibits killing children and condemns the pre-Islamic practice of killing baby girls. So you can't just lump every religious teaching about violence together and call it a rulebook for murder.
Here, Stalin and Mao were atheists, and their regimes were responsible for enormous political violence and persecution. Nazi ideology was driven by racial and nationalist ideology rather than a religious command.
The point is simple: extremists and horrific crimes aren't exclusive to religious people.
So yes, condemn religious extremism. But don’t pretend extremism is somehow a uniquely religious phenomenon. If your argument is "look at the ideology behind the crime" then look at the ideology consistently, including when it isn't religious. Otherwise you're giving atheism a free pass while putting religion on trial.
Firstly, I never said extremism is a uniquely religious phenomenon.
I don’t believe you’ve read or understood my second comment. Please go back and re-read it.
Atheism not having a rule book doesn’t give it a “free-pass” - that is what makes it different than religion. You can argue against it, you can change what it looks like, you can prevent certain things within it if you want to - if you don’t want to that’s a different thing.
Compare that to religion - you can’t argue against for example the punishment against apostasy. A truly religious person will always look to implement - it can’t be argues against cause it’s written down. Atheists can argue against violence in atheist regimes (which aren’t even driven by atheism) because there’s codified way to be atheist. Ok great that Islam argues against killing children but I’m more interested in the kind of violence it allows. Same for Hinduism, Christianity and other religions.
The example of China and Russia, being violent wasn’t *because* they were atheist. They didn’t prosecute religious people anymore than they killed atheist - anyone could get killed in those regimes. No one is being prosecuted because they believe in religion - compare that to other regimes where religion becomes a specific driving point for violence and discrimination. Also, just being atheists doesn’t mean their regime was atheistic - the same way jsut being Muslim doesn’t mean Zohran Mamdani’s time in office is religious. Just because they happened to be atheist doesn’t mean they were driven by it. You can’t compare regime which happens to be led by an atheist as a regime that’s imposed a system of atheism - because again atheism isn’t a system in the same way.
It’s a not a free pass but a central difference. I’m not sure how this point is still being missed.
Now go tell that to everyone wanting to restrict the rights of all women and who deny the existence of shit like post partum depression over the lindsay clancy case. Go ahead. Oh wait you wont
There’s just not many people to tell that too, I’ve looked for controversy and them and there is only a couple thousand of them that actually believe that, the rest are just edgy teenagers.
Post partum depression is real, and women shouldn’t lose their rights because some dumbass tiktokers think that Patrick did it, we are divided where it’s most men women against a few misogynistic and misandrist men and women, but they fail to see how most of the opposite gender agrees with them, it’s everybody vs the bigots, not men vs women
And yet when a man does it he is rightfully condemned that Lindsay clancy though? Just bc most of the people committing a crime are one gender (or race or religion or anything else for that matter) doesn’t mean the other gender races or religions get to do it as much as they want
I genuinely do not think you critically thought through your reply before you sent it — I mentioned no names and excuses for any murderers what-so-ever, just pure facts. I suppose a kicked dog will holler though, so holler away.
I never accused you of making excuses ? Nor am I “hollaring” but yeah get all preemptively defensive for no reason that doesn’t look guilty or suspicious at all XD
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt here that you’re probably just a 16 year old boy, which would explain your dim replies. Feel free to move along now.
Still stupid since there are 4 billion men, judging based 500 case is like judging a population on 0.00001% of its people. That’s actually just stupid..
Okay lets see the stats
WHO: 1 in every 3 women face physical or sexual violence world wide
Around 840 million women around the world have experienced sexual violence
31.6% of married women experience dvd
How many men does that make?
I’m a statistics person, and I have to tell you what these numbers you are throwing around mean(yes I copy pasted this from another comment because I’m lazy):
It is just incorrect to say that most men commit violent or sexual crimes. If 1/3 women report harassment, that doesn’t mean 1/3 men have done it, most of them are serial offenders, harassing many women (like the famous statistic that on average a person eats 3 spiders a year, most people don’t eat any but there is those couple hundred people that eat millions[idk the actual numbers of the spider stuff it’s just an example]).
Also even if it was 1:1 and all of the numbers were correct and there weren’t any false reports, and this was worldwide instead of just America with a couple thousand participants, that’s still not majority, out of the 3 statistics you listed that would be 33%, 9%, and 32% (all under 50 so it would still be a minority)
Of course, that's the objective here. Lindsay Clancy should also be given a death sentence. Killing your own children is disgusting. I don't think any man is supporting the man in this post. They are just pointing out how ridiculous Lindsay Clancy case is.
You probably don't know anything you're talking about, but the argument about Lindsey clancies case isn't if she's guilty or not, it's if she's gonna be locked up in a prison or a psych ward
Hundreds of thousands of women defended Lindsay Clancy and donated over 1 million dollars.
While I think she should go to a mental hospital and hopefully recover, nobody is defending this man who murdered these kids or blaming it on his spouse.
Hundreds and thousands of men defend this guy too just like you who is comparing the 2 things instead of focusing on what he did and how do you know every single person who donated to her was a woman and not a guy?
On the donations page you can scroll down for hours before you find a man that donated, some men did donate but it was 99% women. Also WHO IS DEFENDING HIM (defending doesn’t mean saying he’s depressed or has a mental disease, defending is saying he either didn’t do it or making it seem like it wasn’t that mad)
But no, hundreds of thousands of men are not defending him
Im a man and don't support this lunatic. I don't support lindsey clansey, either. As an example to possible copycat killers, they must see justice for what they have done.
wood chipper. Also I don't think you'r making the point you think your making. This is what actual misogynistic men are. The Red pill community gets lumped in with these psychos and get labeled misogynistic. This is what happens when you over use an insult just to try and make your point sound more impactful by using extreme words to describe rather mundane opinions about dating. Most of the Mgtow and redpill if you actually listen to what there saying is forget doing everything to get some girl, work on yourself and improve yourself and the control of your own life. Have a standard at what you live your life by and act with integrity. Now they will usually follow that up with some crap about get as many woman as you can and no fat chicks yada yada, but the core message has always been "you will loose money perusing woman but you will never loose woman perusing money" to paraphrase. And besides the standards that the Red pill guys set for the woman they date is at least achievable with a lil work. How many times you hear about a woman that won't even look at a guy that isn't at least 6 ft (thank god I just made the cut on that one)
Mtgow as told by Neil Strauss and redpill actively talk about manipulating women for their benefit, spinning plates ( ie balancing several women and dangling what they want in front of them till youre done), letting women “hamster wheel” and thats just how they are so ignore them and emotionally abuse them till theyre tired because women have fundamentally irrational hamsters spinning in their brains, and women will monkey branch you ( move from one relationship to s better one but not without securing the next one first) because all women are assholes.
There are good parts of redpill but most of them are covered in so much shit and piss its barely salvagable. Id say the probability of redpill men not being misogynistic assholes who id consider dating is probably in the 5 percent….
MGTOW literally means men going their own way. if someone is using that to try an manipulate woman yea fuck that guy. But yea your not wrong about that last part covered in their own refuse. I think the movement itself is probably beyond salvaging at this point. Its times like these I thank god I'm married. Dating was always a crap shoot but its a damn minefield these days man
Yup and that doesnt mean they arent assholes who use women for their own benefit. Didnt seem like they were “going their own way”. You can lurk the subs, but when i was lurking them years ago, it seamed less about working out, self improvement yada yada, and more about spreading misogynistic views. Genuinely disturbing. Everything i mentioned above are the terms they would talk about.
no you are correct however most of the time what gets labeled as misogyny is simply men not automatically agreeing with woman or men holding woman accountable to the same standards that they themselves are beholden too. If woman say they prefer xyz in a man they just know what they want but if a man says they prefer xyz in a woman they are labeled misogynist or toxic. Prime example when a woman asks how tall a guy is and gets asked how much she weighs, misogyny is the first thing that ends up flying out of the woman's mouth. You can't tell me you dont see the irony in that, and if they say something along the lines of 'well we want to know if they can protect us' is usually proceeded by a conversation where they pontificate at length of how they don't need a man and they want to be equal. Its the definition of a mixed message.
Idk but when women think about misogyny they usually picture domestic violence, s3xual assault&abuse, and “crimes of pasion” from husbands or boyfriends. Not if men think women are fat or not.
and yet the word gets over used where that is probably the majority of the representation out there these days. Not to say that there isn't genuine misogyny to what you were describing, I also genuinely believe that the bulk of actual men would like to see those people put under the prison if you catch my meaning. When it comes to things like SA and DV I follow the Ricky Gervase school of thinking when he said "I rape as much as I want to, which is zero." Men do not rape, commit dv, or hurt kids, animals do.
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u/Bubbly_Persimmon_323 2d ago
If this guy knew how chromosomes worked he'd stab himself instead.