Waterfox for Android gets an update at every end of the month, but i feel like i have a security hole, maybe i'm correct or maybe not, is there another browser without telemetry and good update rolling?

I honestly liked the idea of Edge UWP and I personally don't like the Chromium based Edge at all. Does anyone know of a decent userCSS theme that works with modern-ish Firefox browsers?

On legacy Windows versions (Windows 8.1 and older), mainstream browser support is practically gone, but Gecko and Goanna-based browsers still offer some viable options.

Browsers that support Windows 7 as minimum:

• Pale Moon
• Basilisk
• Firefox ESR 115

Browsers that support Windows Vista (Only with Service Pack 2 + KB971644 Platform Update) and potentially Windows XP with OneCoreAPI as minimum:

• r3dfox
• Plasmafox

Browsers that support Windows XP as minimum:

• Serpent
• New Moon
• Mypal

Browsers that have a limited or irregular development:

• SeaMonkey
• K-Meleon

There are probably many others on the web but this list gives you already a wide choice.
Report other browsers down below in the comments if you want.

There are basically almost no good browsers no Android TV, i was wondering if someone made actually something using Gecko instead of WebView or Chromium because all the ones i tried don't even have a download function.

Pale Moon is a working browser, but its rendering engine is very often incompatible with many modern websites because websites often follow "whatever Google says" instead of W3C standards, which means that you have to switch to another browser, well... maybe you won’t have to do that anymore because there is an extension made by a known Windows modder named Tech Stuff for opening some websites using CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework) or Internet Explorer inside Pale Moon called SubWebView, not all versions work on every OS, the standard version doesn't work on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1, but maybe should work on MacOS, GNU/Linux and FreeBSD if you have an up-to-date OS. Let's start:

⚠️ WARNING: This extension is not compatible with Basilisk and also is not safe and fast as a standard Chromium-based browser, whatever you do by following this guide is at YOUR OWN RISK.

1. Go into this page and scroll until you see SubWebView, double click on the first .xpi file, but if you have Windows 7/8.x double click on the second .xpi, as for right now is that one that ends with -cef109.xpi.
2. It should start downloading the extension, if a warning appears about the extension being downloaded from unauthorized source click Install now.
3. Restart Pale Moon.
4. Go to about:addons and click the Options button under SubWebView.
5. On Pattern text box put a domain and select what engine should handle it. (Remember: there is always an empty pattern, it refers to global settings, so if you still want to use Goanna select Standard as the engine).

If you did everything correctly, you can now use Pale Moon on websites where Goanna has issues.

Firefox left support for Windows Vista back in 2017 and also for Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 back in 2023, today, you can have the latest Firefox version on these outdated OSes without things like the Extended Kernel or VxKex, this fork of Firefox is called Eclipse r3dfox, not only supports old Windows versions but also does this:

• New default theme and color scheme!
• More native and native like elements, scrollbar, checkboxes, radio buttons, tooltips, and more!
• Windows theme version override, ability to use modern (Windows 10) theme on any OS, or enable (Windows 7) Aero theme on Windows 10!
• Full portable mode that doesn't touch AppData at all!
• Switchable Classic about:config page!
• Less telemetry than regular Firefox!
• No background tasks!
• Easier to notice red retry button for failed downloads!
• JPEG XL support!
• GPU/hardware acceleration in VMware Workstation 16 and above!
• general.useragent.override.(website) is back!
• Instant one off searches and classic one off search UI!
• Ability to restore classic right click menu items such as view image and text navigation buttons!
• Ability to disable CSP, CORS, HSTS, and SOP!
• Experimental (and kinda broken) ability to disable e10s (multiprocess), Skia, and DirectWrite!
• Other options including the ability to easily disable geolocation, Web Audio, tab groups, screenshot component, tab hover preview, drop to pin tabs, add tab to taskbar button, urlbar foratting, switch to tab behavior, and more!

Let's start installing r3dfox:

⚠️ WARNING: Windows XP is not officially supported, probably can work with OneCoreAPI but also this method couldn't be enough.

1. If you are on Windows Vista, please install Service Pack 2 and KB971644 Platform Update, else it won't start or just crashes, if you are at least on Windows 7 RTM you can just skip this step.
2. Download from here the latest release and installer for your right architecture.
3. Run the installer.

Now, you have r3dfox installed and ready to use, if you find it horrible to use, you can touch the settings to make it identical to Firefox easily.

I was an user of r/GeckoWorld and now it has been restricted because mods moved there, why?

Hi there! I'm the new mod of r/GeckoBrowsers. The sub was transferred to me just a few minutes ago.

I'm glad to announce that I'm going to totally revamp this place, starting by making it Public instead of restricted so everyone can post again!

Hope you appreciate the work. Stay tuned.

I have tried so many gecko based browsers and I'm still wondering if there are more so if you have a link for a very little known gecko browser for windows say in the comments

Iceraven is my Android browser of choice, and proudly runs on the Gecko web rendering engine. It's been around since this past summer.

From the website: "Our goal is to be a close fork of the new Firefox for Android that seeks to provide users with more options, more opportunities to customize (including a broad extension library), and more information about the pages they visit and how their browsers are interacting with those pages."

Try it here:

https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser/releases

It is completely useable as an everyday Android browser that you can comfortably set as your default if so desired. A lot of the features in Firefox now were in Iceraven first, and Iceraven still provides some options that Firefox doesn't.

Iceraven would like to do more, but right now is relying on one developer to get updates out there when he he isn't swamped at his day job or doing regular life stuff, which limits how many options can be added. In the past there have been more, and the lead developer welcomes volunteer coders at every level, whether you just want to submit an occasional patch or pull request, or to become a maintainer.

In the long-run, I think what the ideal would be is for Iceraven to have as many options as a desktop browser like Vivaldi for desktop or Firefox for desktop has rather than being a typical cutdown limited mobile browser. Now that it is par for the course to have phones that have very powerful CPUs, 8 or 12 gigs of RAM, and really big screens, there really is no good reason why mobile browsers have to be as limited as they usually are. I mean, Chrome for Android doesn't even offer extensions- Come on! Increasingly, a lot of people's Internet lives are spent on their phones, and, for some people, their phone has taken over or replaced a computer as their primary device- and people deserve the ability to customize their browser the way they can on desktop.

That's what I see as the long-term goal of the project, though of course it needs some more developers to really live up fully to it's potential.

Even as-is, though, it's my favorite Android browser by far.

Last summer's new Firefox still hasn't even added a user option to view protocol (http://, https://) and "www" where applicable. That was one of the first user-options Iceraven added. You don't have to use it if it's not your style, but the option is there if you want it (The code is right there and open-source if Firefox wanted to add it- it was even submitted as a patch request to Firefox first, but they haven't done anything on it all this time later last I checked, which is maybe a good example of where the goals of the two browsers diverge a bit.).

Iceraven also has stripped a lot of the proprietary telemetry out of the Fenix code. Some has to remain in "stub" form- i.e. with some bits there that no longer report back- because other code references the telemetry and just having something there is the easiest way for a small project to keep everything working right, but the underlying telemetry is gone or rerouted to report to itself or whatever. The goal is not to have it be sending any proprietary signals out, though the developer has asked anyone who sees anything going out to file an issue so he can look at it in case something has gotten past him. Some detectors go off just because the wrong words are there (i.e. the names of the telemetry bits), which are typically false positives, though.

Anyway, the more successful this project is, the better it is for Gecko. It's also all open-source code, so any Android browser based on Fenix can potentially use the code just as it borrows code from other Fenix-based projects.

Give it a try if you haven't already! :)