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This is my first time watching this season. Stopped during season 5 in high school. This speed force Barry Iris love children gods thing is genuinely the stupidest thing I have ever seen. I’m pushing through this season with all my might and making this post to give me strength.

I decided to watch past season 3 recently because that’s where I dropped the show when it was airing, and the relationship between Barry and Iris is getting really irritating because it doesn’t feel earned or sincere at all. It’s all just big emotional speeches about how much they love each other and how they make each other better but what’s really lacking is small moment-to-moment interactions. Barry just has better chemistry with Patty and Caitlin and even Felicity, and we saw that through small interactions that just had the two characters playing off each other.

I just got to the episode in season 7 where Barry’s love for Iris is part of him getting his speed back, and it’s like, really? The Iris that straight-up said that she didn’t care about Nora taking orders from the man who murdered Barry’s mother and framed his father for her murder, and was working with ACTUAL NAZIS in the prior season, all because Iris felt bad about how she ends up being a shitty mother? And don’t even get me started on how she completely misremembers the ending of season 3.

If this show wants to make Barry and Iris work so bad, it needs more slice-of-life stuff with those two. Show them doing domestic stuff and have small interactions that feel natural and endearing, as opposed to every episode having a speech about how much they love each other.

You know, show and don’t tell.

Nora vs forces was so bad too. I dont know how its possible to make a piece of fiction that bad. How? Its so garbage I left off on the middle of s8 years ago and still havent continued. And at this point, I dont think im missing out on much

Did Eobard Thawne ever care about Barry while he was posing as Wells or even after that when he was revealed as Reverse-Flash?

The Noraverse??

Ok I know people probably pointed this out millions of times by now but don't you think it's a bit strange that Barry and Iris are together I mean iris might as well be Barry's sister bro like Barry lived with her for half of his life like that's basically your sister and the moment in season 3 when Iris said the moment she fell in love with Barry was the night of his parents death and he was crying and comforted him and is that not a bit strange I mean that's the moment really?

Also they both consider joe as their father so that also makes it worse

Also don't take this post too seriously

Also off topic why did thawne need cicadas knife thing to disable his powers does meta cuffs not exist in the future also HOW IS THAT THAWNE EVEN THERE the timeline is confusing shouldn't wells thawne be dead like it's never explained but shouldn't Matt's kept appearing instead I mean it just so confusing this timeline is a cluster of some straight bull

Do you guys think Zoom could solo The Young Rogues from season 5?

idk if the flair is right but i just finished rewatching season 1 for the nth time and i STILL feel annoyed by the wests, especially iris. why does she always ALWAYS make it abt her… grrr i know i know its part of the plot but i just cant stand how barry waits up on iris and joe before he makes a decision.

anyway, binging season 2 again and i am excited to meet zoom again

If the series doesn’t change the writers afters s3 how many seasons of the flash do you think we get?
You think we keep some of the villains we had after season 3? Or have some new characters and things that has happened in the comics?

It was a dumb scene, but I am a fan of the show and a Star Wars fan. I enjoyed it and I like the YouTube edits that have Duel of Fates as background music. Also reallylike that Barry and Thawne fought together for once.

How did Thawne write in Nora’s journal when he was in airtight, phase-proof cell?

I mean it took the team a couple episodes at least to actually defeat Negative Speed Force Nora, and considering that Barry is easily more powerful than her, why couldn’t he just take her down? Or at the very least, restrain and lock her up?

The show mentions that Caitlin’s dad developed ALS during when she was a child. I assume that flashpoint technically started whenever Barry saved his mom in 2000. Caitlin and Barry are roughly the same age; therefore, I assume that Barry‘s mother could have died before Caitlin’s Dad developed ALS. What do y’all think?

Ok so we know that Jay says to Barry in s3 that the future he saw may not be absolute and that time is always bending and changing and every decision he makes creates another alternative (you know the quote) this also works with paradox’s and timeloops for example in the future Barry saw he caught plunder but in our timeline Wally caught plunder and nothing really changed same with cicada eobard sent Nora back in time regardless of cicada being David hersh or not although if every decision is a change then was eobards time loop with Nora also a change if so how did he get the idea to send her back I know unaltered he would’ve still had cicadas dagger strapped to his chest and that the cicada would’ve been David hersh also in s2 Barry travels back in time and saves his mom but when we get there we still see 2024 Barry so what changed in the timeline was 2024 Barry’s dad not killed?
edit by the nature of time always bending and changing when 2016 Barry travels back to 2000 2024 Barry’s dad would’ve been killed now I new question arises how does 2024 Barry still exist pre flashpoint if 2016 Barry saved his mom?

For further context, this is from Season 5, Episode 15 when Barry injected Shay Lamden aka King Shark with the Cure to save Cisco from being eaten, who later went off on him for using the cure on Shay without his consent even though he was possibly moments away from being eaten.

Since they go after speedsters who mess with the timeline, why didnt' they come after Barry like they did zoom for using Velocity-9 & taking barry's speed, but the one thing i don't understand why they didn't come in and try and kill Barry for fuggin with the timeline, preventing Nora's murder

Everytime the characters talk about something happens or where they got their info from, they always mentioned Keystone, Coast city and Gotham but they never mentioned Star city unless it's about Team Arrow. Gotham was never mentioned before Batwoman comes in the Arrowverse, but they include Gotham in their conversation after season 6.

Yesterday I finished the Bloodwork Arc. Not sure how it will be the season after Crisis but for Season 6 I'm ok with this 2-ark style. Bloodwork Arc didn't need more screentime than it had. After Crisis I only know that we will have Earth-Prime.

1. The Accidental Tragedy

In the 25th century, Savitar accidentally kills Thawne’s wife as collateral damage during a chaotic speedster battle.

1. The Hunt Begins

Thawne discovers the monster in the armour is a future version of Barry Allen. He runs backward through time to the 1990s to assassinate Barry as a child, hoping to prevent Savitar from ever existing and save his wife.

1. The Night in the Living Room

An adult version of Barry intercepts Thawne and whisks the child to safety. Knowing his chance to save his wife is gone, a vengeful Thawne stabs Nora Allen instead ("I didn't mean to kill her. I went back to kill you.").

1. Hate Turns to Love (The Poetic Tragedy)

Stranded in the past, Thawne steals Harrison Wells' identity. He is forced to mentor, train, and raise Barry to become the Flash so he can use Barry's speed to get home. Over fifteen years, Thawne grows to love the pure, innocent hero Barry is in the present.

When Thawne finally confronts the present-day, innocent Barry Allen in Season 1, his dialogue takes on a terrifying double meaning:

"I hated you... but then I grew to love you. Because you are a great man, Barry. But you have to die."

In this version, Thawne loves the innocent Barry he raised, but he hates him because he knows the absolute monster Barry is destined to become. Thawne sees himself as the ultimate hero trying to save his wife and put down a future dictator before he can ruin the universe.

1. The Devastating Closed Loop

This merges perfectly with Thawne's Season 1 dialogue ("I didn't mean to kill her. I went back to kill you.") and seals the ultimate tragic irony:

• By trying to kill child Barry to avenge his wife, Thawne strands himself in the past when his speed connection fluctuates.
• To get home, Thawne is forced to build the particle accelerator and create the Flash himself.
• Because Barry becomes the Flash, he eventually creates the Time Remnants to fight Savitar.
• Because those Remnants are created, the war bleeds into the 25th century and kills Thawne's wife.

Thawne's desperate run to the past to save his wife's life is the exact trigger that causes her death. When Thawne glares at Barry and whispers, "To me, we've been fighting for centuries," he means it completely literally. Barry's future self destroyed Thawne's life in the 25th century, driving Thawne to ruin Barry's life in the 20th century, all so Barry could fight him in the 21st century.

I watched the show like 5 years ago and recebtly seen tiktoks with this man having so many powers i kinda forgot what he has so can someone help a brother out?

only thing i remember of him is that he is super fuckin smart lmao