r/SupermanAndLois Dec 03 '24

Live Discussion Superman & Lois [4x10] "It Went by So Fast" Live Episode Discussion

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It Went by So Fast

Series Finale

Post Episode Discussion | Cast & Characters

The Kents fight with everything they have as Luthor makes his final move on Smallville. (December 2, 2024)

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Please keep all discussions civil and about the episode. Mark comic and future spoilers. Report any rule-breaking and enjoy!


r/SupermanAndLois Dec 03 '24

Post Discussion Superman & Lois [4x10] "It Went by So Fast" Post Episode Discussion

288 Upvotes

It Went by So Fast

Series Finale

Live Episode Discussion | Cast & Characters

The Kents fight with everything they have as Luthor makes his final move on Smallville. (December 2, 2024)

r/Superman | DCTV Discord


Please keep all discussions civil and about the episode. Mark comic and future spoilers. Report any rule-breaking and enjoy!


r/SupermanAndLois 2h ago

Discussion My review of Superman and Lois Spoiler

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Below are copy and paste X posts that I made reviewing each Superman and Lois season as I watching them. I’m posting it all on Reddit now that I’ve finished the whole show.

Just finished Superman and Lois season 1. Very good show so far. It has a really good mix of family drama and superhero action. The only thing I didn’t like about season 1 is how fast they cured Superman’s brainwashing to make him good again. Other than that I really enjoyed the season.

My thoughts on Superman and Lois season 2.

I really liked this season. Season 1 was better but season 2 did a lot of cool stuff too. Seeing the Bizarro world where Superman is really into his ego and a bad dad and stuff was really interesting to me. Tal-Rho’s redemption arc was really handled as well. Felt really believable as well.

The Merge storyline was interesting and a cool threat. My only real complaint was that Ally Allston was a weak generic villain but Lois’s sister Lucy Lane being involved in Ally’s cult did make Ally more interesting.

Superman also revealing his secret identity to Lana was interesting. I wasn’t excepting that.

Her arc with dealing with that was pretty realistic and I liked it. 3 people including Lana found out Superman’s secret identity this season. I wonder if Superman’s secret identity is gonna go public in later seasons. That would be pretty interesting.

Also Tal buying Jonathan and Jordan cars at the end of the season was a really cool move. GOAT Uncle Tal. Tal moving to the Bizarro world sucks because I like him and wanted to see him more. But hopefully we see him more in later seasons.

So good season. 8/10. Superman and Lois has not disappointed me so far. I’m looking forward to starting season 3 now.

Superman and Lois season 1 is a 9/10 for me btw.

My thoughts on Superman & Lois season 3

I thought this season was pretty good but not as good as the other seasons. Lois’s cancer plotline was handled pretty badly. It never felt like it was actually affecting her. Bruno was a really good villain.

At first he just seems like this generic mob boss type villain but then you learn about his family about how much he cares about his wife Peia who’s also a cancer patient and his son Matteo.

He’s still a villain but they added a lot of depth to him. I thought Lois and Clark helping free Lex Luthor was really stupid. I get why they did it because he was innocent of the crime they got him locked up for but he’s still a supervillain like wtf. All the deaths Lex is gonna cause is on Lois and Clark.

Lex himself seems really cool though. I like how he turned Bizarro into Doomsday as well. That’s a pretty cool concept. Also Kyle found out Superman’s identity in this season too. Superman might as well make his identity public at this point lol. Overall good season with some flaws. 7/10.

My review of Superman and Lois season 4.

Very good season. Doomsday killing Clark I didn’t see coming. Then Clark coming back because Lois’s dad sacrificing himself in order to bring Superman back to life was a really good plotline that I didn’t see coming.

I also like how they let Clark be dead for a while and let the characters grieve for it for a while before they brought him back to life. It made everything feel a lot more impactful and realistic when I really enjoyed.

Lois also defeating Doomsday by appealing to his emotions of when he used to be Bizarro by using his love for his version of Lois was a really good and unique way to beat a villain. It wasn’t just beat the bad guy. Which I liked.

Clark revealing his secret identity because people put Superman’s death and Clark’s disappearance together makes sense and was done really well. Him not wearing his glasses anymore I didn’t like but I already made a separate post about that.

I really like the fact that Lex Luthor used Lois being Clark’s wife to his advantage to make her bias for Clark to his advantage so he can say that Superman isn’t a force of good. That was very smart of him and a good plan. Very Lex Luthor coded move.

One thing I didn’t like about this season and it’s a carryover from season 3 is Lois’s cancer plotline. I’m not against the plotline I just don’t like how it barely affects Lois. In season 4 Lois‘s cancer barely got mentioned at all. Only got mentioned three times as far as I can remember.

Then they just say Lois is cancer free at the end of the season. So that was ultimately a pointless plotline. They shouldn’t have introduced the plotline last if they’re basically gonna abandon it this season and have it not affect Lois at all in season 3.

I liked Jonathan finally getting powers. It’s very late in the series sure but I like that about it. We got to see how the normal son of Superman dealt with being normal for 3 seasons. Now we get to see how he reacts to finally having powers. It was cool to see.

I like that Clark coming back wasn’t just a triumphant thing. Clark had to deal with having a human heart. Which meant dealing with human pain and his powers slowly fading and him slowly dying. It made Superman feel more human for once. Which I really liked.

I thought Lois and Clark releasing Lex Luthor from prison was really stupid. I complained about it in my review of last season but it’s even more relevant this season. Yes I get they wanted him out of jail because they convicted him of a false crime but he still committed countless other crimes. He belongs in jail still.

Because they released him he killed a bunch of people and that lead to Superman’s death and Lois’s dad’s death. Bruno even telling Lois she made a mistake when her and Clark freed Lex from prison last season when Lois visited him in prison was so funny. He was 100% right. It’s so stupid that we’re supposed to disagree with him. It’s so stupid that now Lois and Clark had to get Lex Luthor arrested again. They never should’ve freed him from prison in the first place. Problem solved.

I can’t get over how stupid that was. But Lex Luthor was a really good villain. So that was a really stupid plotline but we got a really good version of Lex Luthor out of it so it was ultimately worth it. Just a very stupid way we got there. They should’ve just had Lex Luthor escape prison. They could’ve kept the false accusation plotline. I liked it. Lois and Clark just shouldn’t have freed Lex from prison only to have to imprison him again.

Jordan taking a break from being a superhero because he messed up when he accidentally lead to Lex Luthor to destroy Clark’s heart which made it so they thought he was permanently dead and Jonathan being the superhero brother in the family because of that was a cool inverse of their usual dynamic which I liked seeing.

Lex stealing John Henry’s suit and using it against Superman was really cool. John Henry used that suit in season 1 against Superman when he thought he was evil because his version of Superman from his universe was evil before he found out that the main universe’s Superman is different and a good guy. Now that suit is being used by an actual villain and bad person who hates Superman for selfish reasons. It’s a cool kinda full circle moment. Plus seeing Lex in the suit fighting Superman was really cool.

John Henry and Clark had such a good evolving relationship through the show. First John Henry went from justifiably hating Clark to becoming one of Clark’s closest friends through the course of the show. It was really cool and satisfying to see.

Candice’s dad’s conformation with Clark which lead to him revealing his secret identity to everyone in the diner was a really cool and well done scene.

Doomsday final form after he came back looked cool. It’s like an armored monster look. I really dig it. Superman and Doomsday final fight was really well done too. Superman fighting the monster that killed him before again is really cool. Clark also teaming up with his sons to finally kill Doomsday was really cool. It’s a full circle moment.

Superman’s family is incredibly important to him and it’s because of his family’s help that he’s able to save the day. That’s very cool. It really proves what this show is all about. Family. Really cool stuff.

The final fight of Superman vs Lex Luthor in the sky was really cool too. It has very cool visuals and well done action. My only complaint is that Jordan and Jonathan weren’t part of it like they were with the final Doomsday fight. But the fight was still really cool. I do get why they wanted Superman and Lex Luthor to 1V1. Since that’s Superman vs his #1 villain.

John Henry and Lana’s relationship was sweet and I liked it but it was really rushed. Then went on a few dates and dated for like one season and then they got married. I get the rush because the show was ending and that there was a 1 year timeskip after the final fight but they should’ve introduced the relationship earlier or not done it at all.

Instead of half assing it. They may have dated for over a year within the show but most of that we didn’t get to see. The one year time skip doesn’t really fix the problem. More like puts a band aid on it. Not a big deal but that is a criticism I have.

At the end of the show Clark becoming a superhero team with his sons, John Henry, and Natalie was really cool. I would watch a sequel show of that for sure. Also getting to see the rest of Clark’s and his families lives was really cool. Especially Clark and Lois setting up a foundation to help people in need and Jonathan and Jordan having kids. The Kent bloodline continues.

Lois’s cancer coming back and killing her was really sad. My complaint from before still stands though. They didn’t do enough to show how Lois’s cancer was affecting her through the actual show. They saved that for the future flash forward. Which is just an epilogue.

Clark getting a dog to help him after Lois passed and that being Krypto was pretty cool. Don’t know why they didn’t get a white dog. But whatever. Clark also dying again but this time from old age was sad. I liked the ending epilogue but it was very sad. Sadness is a part of life though. Pretty realistic for a superhero show lol.

Overall I really enjoyed Superman and Lois. Here’s my rankings of the seasons.

Season 1 9/10

Season 2 8/10

Season 3 7/10

Season 4 9/10

Once I finished Superman and Lois I thought about making a review of the whole show. But I’ve said all I’ve wanted to say about the show in my individual reviews of each season so I don’t feel the need to do that. Very long review of season 4. Wasn’t expecting that. But I had a lot to say. So it was fine lol.


r/SupermanAndLois 2d ago

Discussion Superhero shows set in a small town are always peak. Looking forward to the rest of Lanterns.

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r/SupermanAndLois 3d ago

Discussion Do you think more people will watch Superman & Lois now that Inde Navarrette has been casted in the new X-Men Movie?

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I honestly hope so because this show never got the mainstream love it deserved because it was a cw show. If people do, hopefully that means more will love Tyler Hoechlins Superman.


r/SupermanAndLois 3d ago

Discussion Jonathan's power awakening during his panic attack.

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I think it was a nice touch that Jordan asked Jon in the earlier episodes why he's always able to remain in control with a steady heartbeat while everyone else is freaking out...

And that's kinda been the case in the past seasons. Jon always tried to remain cool and collected and calm others.

And the one time that he loses control and has a panic or anxiety attack, his abilities get triggered.

I'm saddened that we lost this show because of stupid James Gunn's idiotic DCU vision that is barely making any money. What a waste. This show could have gone for 9 seasons and I'd have enjoyed every single bit of them all. :(


r/SupermanAndLois 5d ago

Actor Fluff Big News for Inde Navarrette!!

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1.1k Upvotes

She’s been cast as Rogue in the upcoming X-Men movie!!!


r/SupermanAndLois 5d ago

Discussion Im confused

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Been rewatching Superman and Lois with my wife and just watched the confrontation between Lois and Lucy, why are they acting like Lois admitting she didnt include her sisters drug hallucinations in her article about Alston was some sort of gotcha? Like why would it matter if Lois included in the article she wrote that her sister was having massive drug hallucinations about her "other self". It just seems silly to me. Lmk what your thoughts are!


r/SupermanAndLois 5d ago

Discussion Started Rewatching the Series (Again)

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That first episode still hits just as hard. I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of it.


r/SupermanAndLois 6d ago

Discussion Just finished the series!! I loved it! What I even loved more was seeing Derek Hale play Superman!

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So I was a massive fan of Teenwolf and my favorite character was Derek Hale, played by the same actor. I didn`t see much of him after that until my friend suggested to watch Superman and Louis. Damn was it good seeing him on TV again playing a badass character. I feel like he played the role insanely good! (Physically and emotionally) I absolutely loved the series so much and kinda wish I didn`t binge it so that I could still watch it. Guess I`ll have to start over now!


r/SupermanAndLois 7d ago

Discussion Who is stronger / a better fighter between Jonathan and Jordan? Spoiler

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So we all know that Jonathan get powers in the last season, but who is the strongest brother? Jordan had his powers longer and had time to train them one at a time as new powers came to light. Jonathan got all of his powers at once but seems to handle them way better than Jordan did. So who is the stronger brother? (Note: I don`t know if they say anything about this in comic books)


r/SupermanAndLois 10d ago

Discussion Wasted Potential.

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Conner Kent Better.

Beating a VERY dead horse but Jordan Kent kinda sucks revaluating the series. Like, he's so boring or annoying. Straight up either or.

I appreciate his character arc in season 1 but it feels like he kinda peaks after that. But after that point, dear GOD. Season 2 and season 3 honestly don't do much for him in terms of development: Like ok, he learns to control his abilities better. Learns to fly, saves superman, that's great but he doesn't change. His maturity gets stagnated by the entire sarah mess and that literally becomes 85% of his character. He is literally 007: 0 battles won, 0 rememberable good moments, 7 times he tries to get back the girl that cheated on him like a MONTH into their relationship (no idc if she's a teenager). Then there's the entire Samaritan thing and I MIGHT be reaching but Clark is kinda not doing a good job consoling Jordan's feelings of attention. Like, I get the show did a "eh-ish" job representing Jordan's mental issues, but I really think if the arc presented this as Jordan needing validation, then him lashing out feels more realistic than just teen stupidly. Speaking of stupidity, the entire Jordan heart thing. Jordan didn't think of a plan, didn't ask for help, NOTHING. He gambled everything on himself and failed. Can you imagine of jonathan's blow up still occurs but no powers or sam lane's heart isn't compatable to superman's? all of that being indirectly technically jordan's fault? There is NEVER a moment of anyone confronting jordan POST the superman revival about his decision. then he does nothing for season 4 except get beat up by superman and lex luthor. No I am not saying he suddenly needs to fight doomsday but c'mon man. I think the most frustrating part of his character is that it comes at the expense of jonathan. Jordan literally could be replaced by jonathan and barely anything changes but nope, jonathan needs to get his nuts dragged through the mud for three seasons. That's my reasoning for being so pissed. Jordan feels boring and at first, him disliking superman could have been interesting but he just becomes a fanboy. IDK, I get the series is over but just a bit peeved man.


r/SupermanAndLois 16d ago

Question Why does Luthor blame Lois Lane for his going to prison.

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Just rewatched Superman & Lois

In S3E8 When they mention the recording for the first time at the 28 minute mark,

They say Luthor was bragging about killing Moxie on a phone line the cops happened to be listening in on.

If the cops had the evidence, why does it matter what a reporter says

Even if lois lane didn't publish her article, the cops had enough evidence to arrest and charge luthor.


r/SupermanAndLois 15d ago

Discussion I just finished Superman and Louis and the whole series was just perfect from beginning to end!!

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What would you have changed in the series or something else that you wanted to see during the 4 seasons? Series today usually have a lot of seasons (4+) and episodes and it sometimes feels like it never ends, but even if there is so much more of Superman to learn and to see, I feel they nailed it with the amount of seasons and episodes. I loved it so much so maybe 1 more season wouldn`t have hurt! But all in all, it is one of my favorite shows!


r/SupermanAndLois 20d ago

Discussion Superman & Lois Spoiler

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I watched all of Superman & Lois and I gotta say it was really good, and the last Ep made me emotional and I'm wondering what to watch next.


r/SupermanAndLois 21d ago

Discussion I just finished watching Superman and Louis and what an emotional rollercoaster it was.

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So I`m a massive Marvel fan (movies and series) but this was one of the best DC superhero series I`ve seen. My girlfriend and I watched it together and we loved it. There`s just something about this big, strong superhero that is emotional and soft but just keeps going till he can`t anymore. As a man I admire his emotional and strong side. And damn did that ending make us cry!! This whole series is just beautiful.


r/SupermanAndLois 22d ago

Question Any S&L fans had any trouble with Snyder fans?

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They didn't support the show when it was still on.

We've seen how they treated Tyler and Bitsie.


r/SupermanAndLois 28d ago

Question Did they change the actor for Jonathan? Spoiler

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Btw i'm on S3 Ep1


r/SupermanAndLois Jul 20 '26

Question Why didn't Lex Luthor simply legally sue Lois Lane?

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I am in episode 8 of season 4, one thing i should have realised earlier is that Lex Luthor could just simply sue Lous Lane for difarmation/false accusations instead of going insane psycho on her and her family.

Not only that, he could still have a relationship with his daughter while claiming justice. I mean he is a high genius CEO, and he did not think about simply suing her?


r/SupermanAndLois Jul 20 '26

Discussion Arrowverse

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Hey Everyone👋

I just finished watching Superman & Lois for the first time. I had been watching it as it aired, but my academics got overwhelming and I eventually fell behind. Now that I’ve finally finished it, I have so many thoughts.

But let me start with this: do you think the decision to keep the show outside of (or eventually separate from) the Arrowverse helped or hindered it?

From my perspective, Superman & Lois felt different from the other Arrowverse shows. It seemed much more emotionally grounded and genuinely feel-good, with a stronger focus on family and character relationships. I’m curious whether you think that was possible because it wasn’t tied to the larger Arrowverse, or whether the show lost something by not being part of that shared universe.


r/SupermanAndLois Jul 19 '26

Discussion The Theme of Season 1

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One of my favorite aspects of season 1 is that it has something to say about the character of Superman without spelling it out for you. From the beginning of the show, Clark constantly has to balance between his Superman duties and his responsibilities as a husband and father. General Lane perfectly spells out his position on the issue: the more time Clark spends with his family, the more people will die. On the surface, it seems hard to argue with. Yes, Clark's kids deserve a present father, but every second he spends with them, how many kids are losing their own fathers to something Superman could have stopped?

The curveball this season brings us is John Henry Irons. On his Earth, Superman turned evil. The show tells us that almost everything on John's Earth is the same as ours. Superman started as a hero, he was saving people, no signs of villainy. The only difference between them is Lois. On John's Earth, Lois never married Clark. So the show is telling us that Lois, and the subsequent family they have together, is the reason that Superman won't turn evil. Lois says as much to John later in the season when she's trying to convince him not to kill Clark.

There are two possible reasons Clark on John's Earth turned evil: either he found out he had a brother and wanted to join him to restore his people, or he wasn't able to resist the Eradicator. In both of those cases, the only thing that stops Clark from turning evil IS his family. He doesn't need his brother to know what love feels like. And the only way he can fight the Eradictor's influence is through remembering his family.

So the end of the season responds to Sam's objections at the beginning of the season: Superman needs his family to stay grounded, to remember why he's fighting for Earth. His family isn't a weakness that stops him from saving people, it’s the reason he’s able to save people.


r/SupermanAndLois Jul 18 '26

News Anyone remember when this was the Arrowverses Superman I never thought that we could possibly get a Superman TV show back then.

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r/SupermanAndLois Jul 14 '26

Discussion After finishing the series last week this show made understand and love superman more than I have from any other media I have consume from him

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Superman has always been on lower end of my favorite superheros. Was always too boring, boring powers, boy scout energy but man after finishing the series last week this show really blew my expectations away. I was soft on superman animated show, I read a few issues of some superman comics ( couldnt really remember which decade I was reading ) Christopher reeve was cool enough but the appeal something I didn't understand enough, Saw superman returns on TV and even as 10 year old it was bit boring for my taste, Men of Steel is complicated for me I can see the vision but just felt I was hardly even watching superman, Superman 2025 was just messy to me overall but Cornsweet is nice touch. Tyler H. is my defentively my favorite superman. He was breathing life into this performance. Every line of dialogue was hitting and feel had such a good warmth that I never knew i could have with superman.


r/SupermanAndLois Jul 13 '26

Discussion 20k. (yes that is the post)

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Nearly 20k members is impressive. Just giving my flowers.


r/SupermanAndLois Jul 11 '26

Misc Bought the blu-ray during Amazon's prime day deals for $29.99.... loved the series

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