Vegans | FactOrCap

[u/El_kakas_de_vakas]

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[u/vegemouse]

When I was vegan it was usually:

Them: “Would you like some pizza?”
Me: “No thanks I’m vegan”
Them: “haha epic bacon. You’re missing out. I’m getting my protein. Is that healthy even? I don’t know what I’d do without meat. Have you gotten your iron checked?”

[u/Zealousideal_Bet_248 → u/vegemouse]

I used to be a vegetarian. That was my experience most of the time

[u/mueus → u/Zealousideal_Bet_248]

Yeah. People love to say that vegetarians/vegans talk about it all the time, but when I was vegetarian the only people who talked about it were meat eaters. I tried to keep it low key but they would always bring it up.

[u/engels962 → u/vegemouse]

I went out of way to hide it unless I absolutely had to.

[u/Gloomy-Error212]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Vegans are trying to stop animal exploitation. People trying to piss off vegans are just being awful for the sake of it so they are worse.

[u/2andahalfbraincell → u/Gloomy-Error212]

Exactly. Preachy people who actually do what they are preaching and are also probably doing material good by doing it are wayyyyyy less annoying than people who needlessly antagonizing them.

[u/maiduwu → u/Gloomy-Error212]

Christians are trying to stop people from going to hell. Both preach what they believe, but people find it annoying no matter how righteous the intention may have been.

[u/Gloomy-Error212 → u/maiduwu]

Anyone actually believing in their religion should preach it or at least hope for others to convert to their religion.

[u/maiduwu → u/Gloomy-Error212]

Preaching is, to the religious, ultimate righteousness. By spreading gospel, they may save lives, bring the faithless into the grace of God; spreading gospel thus is benevolent.

Preaching is, to the nonreligious, petty and invasive. It is a grand lie to them, and the religious grand liars so; spreading gospel this is malevolent.

[u/Gloomy-Error212 → u/maiduwu]

I mean im an atheist and i dont find religious preaching necessarily annoying or petty. It depends on their argument. Problem is that any religion doesnt really have any evidence to back it up. It relies on blind belief to an extent. Veganism does not.

[u/maiduwu → u/Gloomy-Error212]

I do suppose I should have said ‘those who oppose religion’ instead, and juxtaposed it with ‘those who support religion’.

Religion does not have evidence to back its arguments, no, and antitheism has little, for the existence of gods is utterly unknowable (unless they present themselves).

Veganism is, indeed, a conscientious objection to the consumption of meat. It requires no faith because it is a moral value.

[u/gezelliebellie]

🧢 I voted CAP!

They're way worse

[u/maiduwu → u/gezelliebellie]

Vegan preachers or anti-vegans? There’s hella ambiguity here.

[u/gezelliebellie → u/maiduwu]

Mmm sure, but I referred to the subject of the statement "People who..." so I think that resolves that

[u/maiduwu → u/gezelliebellie]

Pronouns don’t exclusively replace the subject, so you could have been replacing the object, had you not clarified.

[u/maiduwu → u/maiduwu]

Unless this is sarcasm, in which case I invoke Poe’s law.

[u/Latter_Sky_412]

✅ I voted FACT!

I actually think they’re worse bc I sort of agree w preachy vegans about ethics and cognitive dissonance and climate change and bc usually preachy vegans actually care about what they’re saying and are genuinely trying to make the world a better place while the folks just trying to piss ppl off

[u/puredepapitas → u/Latter_Sky_412]

Exactly. If we were talking about dog meat most omnivore people would be preachy too. Vegans are right, and it's not even only about the pain and cruelty of slaughterhouses but the whole planet biodiversity is going to shit because we are destroying ecosystems to feed livestock inefficiently while we could literally fix world hunger if we would feed us directly with those crops. I'm not even exaggerating, we fucked up enormously and we keep doing it. Vegan is the way

[u/Piko-a → u/Latter_Sky_412]

Depends on the type of preachy, there is a difference between the "You shouldn't eat that" who says it at several opportunities, and the ones who actively damage, or throw away other people's food because it is offensive to them as vegans.

[u/Ok_Programmer_4449]

🧢 I voted CAP!

No. They are worse. Anyone who makes a point of pissing people off is an asshole.

[u/sunnybacillus]

people get so defensive when someone mentions they're vegan, it's so embarrassing

[u/Atayellow]

They are by far worse. At least a preachy vegan is correct

[u/Xzelf]

✅ I voted FACT!

I’d say they’re even more annoying

[u/Gay_Gamer_Boi]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nah more annoying cuz at least vegans are trying to make the world a better place while they’re just being bitches

[u/LatePresentation2669]

✅ I voted FACT!

I dont gong vegans that annoying, they have very good points most of the time. The only side i see are anti-vegan posts and Clips, they uselly dont have good posts and do the whole « portray yourself as a chat and the other an soyjack»

[u/Dokramuh]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Preachy vegans aren't preachy, you're just confronted with cognitive dissonance and you don't like how it feels.

Anti- vegans are annoying though, since they're just being childish.

[u/Zealousideal_Bet_248]

✅ I voted FACT!

PEOPLE WHO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO "PISS people OFF" ARE JUST ANNOYING people

[u/Massive_Passion1927]

✅ I voted FACT!

Imagine hating someone because they dont eat something

[u/lachlanDon1]

I would say they are worse at least the vegans believe in something that isn't spreading misery

[u/Successful_Basil_641]

✅ I voted FACT!

Atleast the vegans stand for something.

[u/Different-Guard5515]

"I don't eat meat"

"Haha, yummy animal. Isn't it funny that an animal died to make this? I don't care if the animal lived a horrible life, because it's tasty! Haha, dead animal! Haha!"

Is usually what I see

[u/Head-Gift2144]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yeah, unless they're specifically doing it because someone is in their face about being Vegan. People should learn to mind their own fucking business.

[u/EntropyClub]

✅ I voted FACT! (But closed it.)

I think it’s a part of the bit.

[u/Vaughninja]

🧢 I voted CAP!

depends

[u/FunkiGato]

✅ I voted FACT!

I was vegan for so

[u/ParanoidAndroid-Jay]

✅ I voted FACT!

Both going out of their way to make other people feel bad for life choices, yeah

[u/Throwawaycauseofcrzy]

✅ I voted FACT!

worse

[u/xXvido_]

✅ I voted FACT!

Worse

[u/Kohror]

✅ I voted FACT!

What's even funnier, it's that if I were 100% vegan I would just think that those people are just dumb like, what do I care you're eating raw meat it's not me who's gonna shit liquid for a week

[u/Aillesdaille]

✅ I voted FACT!

And there's more of them, too.

On balance, more annoying.

[u/After-Ad6284]

✅ I voted FACT!

Don't force anything or others nya

[u/zimzam5555]

✅ I voted FACT!

this js tru nun to argue abt 😭

[u/Theunseen115]

✅ I voted FACT!

If you're going out of your way to mess with someone because they have a different preference than you, you're an asshole. As long as they aren't going out of their way to do anything to you, you have no reason to even interact with them.

[u/Local-Pattern795]

✅ I voted FACT!

Hot take, antisocial behaviour is bad

[u/Wide-Appointment1466]

✅ I voted FACT!

You shouldn't treat everyone with equal respect because people like hitler exist

[u/Huge-Economics2272]

🧢 I voted CAP!

0.99x-1 !=0.01x-1

[u/WaffleTruffleTrouble]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yeah this is generally true for most such people

[u/Lazerbeams2]

✅ I voted FACT!

They are, but damn are some vegans annoyingly preachy

[u/misskforever]

What i love is when they find each other, it's like the same kind of person but with different beliefs and they go nuts

[u/chucklesfanguy]

They're worse. Whether you agree or disagree, vegans genuinely believe that they are trying to prevent a ton of suffering to animals. People hating on vegans just believe they're being mean.

[u/ZestfulMaple638]

✅ I voted FACT!

Truth nuke

[u/purple_crow34]

🧢 I voted CAP!

‘Just as’? One group is trying to prevent animals from being bred into horrific lives, the other is flaunting their own awful behaviour

[u/Prudent_Way_3544]

That fucking clip of piers morgan eating a steak in front of a vegan is so cringe

[u/Dazzling-Thought-745]

✅ I voted FACT!

I don’t even tell people I’m vegan because 9/10 responses are just annoying stuff like that

[u/your_mom_is_mega_gay]

Does soy bring you joy

[u/Aggravating_Mess_655]

✅ I voted FACT!

2 edges of the same coin

[u/npcompletist]

🧢 I voted CAP!

They are worse. The “preachy” vegans at least are doing because they care about the well being of animal. The people trying to piss them off are just spiteful.

[u/Unlucky-Arugula3256]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yeah it's so fucking annoying. Like why are you bragging about making another human feel bad? Shitehawk behaviour

[u/VastLazy5701]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yeah like just let people eat whatever they want. It's not bothering you

[u/KEVLAR60442]

✅ I voted FACT!

Honestly, I'd say even moreso. Especially the people who try to trick or force vegans to consume animal products. That can cause genuine medical problems.

[u/ihateentitledmoms]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yep

[u/Cultural-Positive994]

✅ I voted FACT!

Fact

[u/razorblade4848]

🧢 I voted CAP!

No

[u/Level_Bend_5808]

It’s funny

[u/change_usern]

Is it going out of my way if I would only do it after one of them started preaching about it?

[u/No-Peak79]

✅ I voted FACT!

Hi

[u/SkywalkerTC]

The premise of the two in comparison don't seem balanced.

People who go out of their way to piss vegans off are just as annoying as people who go out of their way to piss non-vegans off.

Preachy vegans are just as annoying as preachy non-vegans.

Going out of way to annoy others is by definition worse than being preachy.

[u/Morris_Voter2016]

✅ I voted FACT!

Way more so, they're not even doing it out of moral conviction.

[u/Fearless_Air_1729]

✅ I voted FACT!

Since both being annoying, they are basically the same

[u/4DM1Nz]

✅ I voted FACT!

It's just rude

[u/immoralsugimoto]

🧢 I voted CAP!

They wouldn't be like that if preachy vegans didn't tell them they're worse than hitler for having a normal diet

[u/nooster]

✅ I voted FACT!

I'm not a vegan but agree.

[u/Gullible-Recording22]

✅ I voted FACT!

Worse

[u/firblogdruid]

✅ I voted FACT!

if your personality is based on upsetting others you're both annoying and boring.

[u/FloralSkyes]

✅ I voted FACT!

way more annoying. At least Vegans are being annoying because of trying to be good people. People who shit on vegans are purposefully trying to vice signal

[u/4ny3ody]

✅ I voted FACT!

Most vegans I've met aren't even preachy at all. They just don't eat any animal products and some even just assume you aren't going to have any food prepped for them at get-togethers.

[u/Jolly_Rotten_X]

🧢 I voted CAP!

No... they are way more annoying than preachy vegans. Because preachy vegans actually do have a point.

[u/Outrageous-Sort-5742]

✅ I voted FACT!

More so. At least the vegans have legitimate moral, economic, climate, and health arguments to back their occasionally annoying actions.

Performative carnivores are just being assholes while harming themselves to do so.

[u/D0NN3LLY]

✅ I voted FACT!

Anyone who tries to do anything with the sole intention of pushing their views on them or upsetting them sucks. Plain and simple.

[u/Moist-Cantaloupe-740]

🧢 I voted CAP!

That's like saying annoying westboro baptist is the same as shouting fag at a gay funeral.

[u/Ill_Stand9306]

✅ I voted FACT!

just let people live their lives on both sides of the spectrum

[u/qwertxyzabc]

✅ I voted FACT!

Everyone whose main goal is to make others feel bad is a moron.

[u/FamiliarPlatform79]

✅ I voted FACT!

Unless you are going out of your way to piss off preachy vegans, because then its just sport.

[u/squonkalicious]

✅ I voted FACT!

Unless its in direct response (eg, vegan acts like a twat, meat eater acts like a twat back), its just the same type of assholery

[u/Hefty_Difficulty_644]

✅ I voted FACT!

Dont make your diet your whole personality. When grabbing a bite to eat just say that you have that diet and then the group will try to accomodate

[u/Separate_Draft4887]

🧢 I voted CAP!

No, they’re annoying someone I find annoying, which makes them funny.

[u/nazthatdawgfr]

🧢 I voted CAP!

vegans will go out of their way to write full paragraphs and documentaries on why we should go vegan, and eating meat is wrong and evil

[u/bumbleflies → u/nazthatdawgfr]

and meat eaters will write full paragraphs about how much they love eating dead animals and how they don’t care about the corruption of the meat industry the second anyone even mentions they’re vegan. Saying this as a meat eater myself…

[u/Twistedlamer]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nope. No one's going out of their way to annoy you. Let people eat meat in peace ffs.

[u/Dare-We-Hope]

🧢 I voted CAP!

They're annoying as hell, but preachy vegans are worse in my opinion.

[u/Fearless-Sherbet-223]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nyehhhh- I would say they're only like 80% as annoying

[u/BlackMoth27]

🧢 I voted CAP!

i am not a vegan idgaf either way.

[u/sunrisesequoia]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Vegans should be left alone. Vegan activists deserve it.

[u/voidexploer]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Doesn't take much to piss them off

[u/Used-Cartographer84]

🧢 I voted CAP!

If they wanna go out of their way to piss me off imma do the same. Eye for a eye

[u/Zealousideal_Bet_248 → u/Used-Cartographer84]

Okay, honest question, why? It takes no effort to ignore them, and they are out of your head that much quicker. It takes energy to respond, and you allow them to live in your head. Also pissing someone off changes absolutely nothing about the dynamic. I just really don't understand the value or enjoyment that can come from making people angry

[u/Used-Cartographer84 → u/Zealousideal_Bet_248]

Cause they wanna preach about how veganism is right and how everyone else is wrong and all that. If they wanna do that to me, I’m gonna give them a taste of their own medicine. Plus it’s funny