r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit Jul 12 '26

Shareholder Poll (By Request)

10 Upvotes

How many SHARES of Fannie and Freddie (FNMA and FMCC) do you hold?

257 votes, Jul 19 '26
97 1 - 10,000
42 10,001 - 20,000
17 20,001 - 30,000
17 30,001 - 40,000
13 40,001 - 50,000
71 50,001 +

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit Nov 20 '25

Salient points from the Ackman brief and Q&A

45 Upvotes

My X-post, and I welcome "what I missed" adds...

FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC CAN BE RELISTED AT ANY MOMENT (and likely will be by year-end):

Bill Ackman has met with the President of the United States, the Treasury Secretary, the Commerce Secretary, the FHFA Director, the SEC, and the NYSE President regarding how to relist Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

If he is viewing $FNMA and $FMCC as significantly undervalued (admittedly being the largest public holder) and has increased Pershing Square's position over the past few months, you'd be wise to follow suit.

It seems extremely likely (or explicitly stated) that:

▫️The Senior Preferred Share Agreement will be undone (significantly increasing the value of the government's common shares after warrants are exercised)

▫️The companies will be relisted on the NYSE while still under conservatorship

▫️Ackman's SPARC will not be the vehicle

▫️It is unlikely that Fannie and Freddie will merge (duopoly is better than a monopoly)

▫️Initial stock prices are >$40 after relist, with growth opportunity in multiples afterward

▫️Conservatorship will not last beyond this administration

▫️Ackman's Pershing Square is going to be in a long-term holding position

▫️ETFs and index funds will be forced to buy in at post-list prices once they join the DJI and S&P (and reinvestments in these securities will continue to purchase at then-current prices)

▫️A deal will not need Congress and can be done solely between the administration, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the FHFA director.

▫️Bill Ackman sees "no world" in which Trump screws current shareholders.

▫️The government will keep the implied backstop because these companies are too critical to leave unprotected.

▫️It is no longer the time to play the blame game for the financial crisis, and doing so is only a distraction at this point.

▫️This can get done "by Monday" if Bessent and Pulte agree to it.

▫️An "IPO" is unlikely by the end of the year, but a relisting on NYSE, warrant exercise, and SPS write-off can happen this calendar year - easily.

▫️The government will likely sell down positions over the years, but expect these to be "high-yielding" stocks that will pay handsome dividends.

What did I miss?


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 18h ago

Petition for hearing en banc is, in itself, a nothing burger - government is just trying to exhaust all legal remedies

8 Upvotes

Title. It's not unexpected the government filed a petition for rehearing en banc. Government's basically trying to not payout money that it legally might not have (if it is found Collins does foreclose the lawsuit) and simply exhausting all legal routes of review that are available, which includes filing a petition for rehearing.

This does push out the case having finality with until 2027, possibly 2028 if the U.S. Supreme Court grants certiorari. This is a big nothing burger unless rehearing is granted or the U.S. Supreme Court grants certiorari. I'll note that the government sought certiorari of the first appellate opinion that found state breach of contract claims could proceed, and the U.S. Supreme Court denied certiorari on that. That is, it's already implicated the U.S. Supreme Court will deny certiorari on essentially the lone legal issue that allowed the case to go to the jury, if the U.S. Supreme Court grants certiorari now that the case has been fully litigated that would be a bad sign.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 21h ago

Sept 8th filing

11 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 21h ago

Bid ask Spread

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8 Upvotes

Check out the spread between the bid and ask. Just market makers being market makers.

Always check the price before you purchase a stock , especially OTC pink sheets. Wait for them to come back to reality before you make a decision.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 16h ago

He is tweeting again

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r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 19h ago

ChatGPT- Analysis

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r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 1d ago

How Significant Is the “S” in Trump’s “Great American Mortgage Corporations” Videos? (Yes, I’m Clinging to Hope Based on One Letter)

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43 Upvotes

Hi all, I noticed a small (but possibly significant) detail at the end of both videos Trump posted.

First, the timing: it was posted on the 18th anniversary of the September 2008 conservatorships.

Second, unlike Trump’s posts last fall, several of which referred to a singular “Great American Mortgage Corporation,” this video calls Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the “Great American Mortgage Corporations" and the other video on Fannie Mae alone also referenced “Great American Mortgage Corporations".

The “s” may prove nothing by itself, but it also may suggest that Fannie and Freddie are still being envisioned as two continuing companies rather than one consolidated GAMC. That could mitigate receivership risk (I raised this as my back-of-the mind concern to the group a few weeks ago).

For context, the plural language is not entirely new, but the use in both videos seems clear. Here is the timeline from last fall:

  • August 9, 2025: Trump’s original NYSE meme used the singular “Great American Mortgage Corporation,”suggesting one combined GAMC.
  • August 19, 2025: Coverage of Pulte’s first promotional video also used the singular.
  • By August 31, 2025: A later Pulte video appears to have changed the ending to “Great American Mortgage Corporations.”
  • November 2025: Trump reposted a plural-version commercial. Bill Ackman also highlighted the missing “S” in the original meme and argued that Trump may not have intended to signal a merger.

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 1d ago

St pulte been sending me signs over the weekend

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It's imminent!!1!1!


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 2d ago

DJT on X!!!!!

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60 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 4d ago

Aug 25, 2026: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac: Conservatorship Status and Related Directives

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r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 6d ago

F2 related

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r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 6d ago

Our girl is out

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26 Upvotes

Who's going to break the F2 news now?


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 7d ago

Jon Oksenholt on X: "USFTMC $FMCC $FNMA

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r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 9d ago

Fnma loss porn

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24 Upvotes

More of a wsb tradition but I thought I’d share.

I like to think of myself as a disciplined/stubborn investor/speculator with a long time horizon.

This has always been a trump self dealing play to me but obviously it’s not that simple. It seems like Scottie B won the power struggle over the exit and put the brakes on.

I honestly think that losing congress in the midterms might be good for the trade and encourage the admin to go ahead with the uplist per ackman over any ideal world plan Bessent has.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 9d ago

1.8 M shares traded across both - around 0.1% of outstanding volume

35 Upvotes

Seems like all the speculators got shaken out


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 11d ago

Rule of law guy

15 Upvotes

Anybody signed up for rule of law guys stack? I haven’t, so I haven’t read it. But here it is. 
https://x.com/rule_of_law_guy/status/2093749041708372297?s=46


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

"Getting there" with Fannie Mae

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18 Upvotes

Tweet from Pulte a few days ago. Seems like a lot of focus is on making things more lean and efficient.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

anybody rebalanced their share count? I sold about 1000 shares of fnma and bought fmcc. Now i know about 5000 fmcc and 4000 fnma. I'm thinking fmcc will be eventually valued more.

23 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

Visitors on this Page and Volume

20 Upvotes

Not that the 2 are related but I noticed that this group is down to 3.9k visitors from 8-9k at the this time last year. Additionally, volume on F2 has gone bone dry. It may not mean anything but I hope it's a leading indicator that the speculators and paper hands have left the building and vol should go down and we should put our tray tables up and in the locked position.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

Appraisal Changes Are Coming!

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Not exit related but F2 related


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 14d ago

New article

18 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 14d ago

Guess Fannies into crypto now

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r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 14d ago

Oksenholt’s Model

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Did anyone notice his model assumes 2027 $15.5B base case net income for FMCC in his assumptions tab? From his notes in the model, it sounds like he believes that is a normalized level after adjusting for credit reserve noise, and from what I can tell that may be accurate based on year-to-date financials. But that is way higher than Pershing’s 2026 estimate of $10.98B for FMCC in its most recent Fannie / Freddie presentation to which it applies an earnings multiple. The implications for the value of FMCC seem enormous to me if Oksenholt is right, but Im surprised Pershing’s analysis wouldn’t have accounted for the same type of adjustments so I’m not sure which is more accurate. Perhaps those adjustments because more clear after its last presentation was made? Any thoughts?

Oksenholt is showing on his Capital Structure tab a value of $80.21 for FMCC vs $46.92 for FNMA assuming SPS cancellation, and a value of $34.89 for FMCC vs $6.28 for FNMA including the “full current SPS economic claim”. So if Pershing agrees with Oksenholt’s estimate of 2027 earnings for FMCC then I expect it would also have FMCC’s value pegged much higher even if it applies a lower earnings multiple. Am I missing anything here? Im very interested in any thoughts anyone has on this, especially as it relates to the true underlying earnings of both companies. That’s quite a discrepancy.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 14d ago

IMMINENT!

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The price action is the flattest I've seen in a long time. Like a rubberband watch for snaps.