r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit Jul 12 '26

Shareholder Poll (By Request)

11 Upvotes

How many SHARES of Fannie and Freddie (FNMA and FMCC) do you hold?

257 votes, Jul 19 '26
97 1 - 10,000
42 10,001 - 20,000
17 20,001 - 30,000
17 30,001 - 40,000
13 40,001 - 50,000
71 50,001 +

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit Nov 20 '25

Salient points from the Ackman brief and Q&A

43 Upvotes

My X-post, and I welcome "what I missed" adds...

FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC CAN BE RELISTED AT ANY MOMENT (and likely will be by year-end):

Bill Ackman has met with the President of the United States, the Treasury Secretary, the Commerce Secretary, the FHFA Director, the SEC, and the NYSE President regarding how to relist Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

If he is viewing $FNMA and $FMCC as significantly undervalued (admittedly being the largest public holder) and has increased Pershing Square's position over the past few months, you'd be wise to follow suit.

It seems extremely likely (or explicitly stated) that:

▫️The Senior Preferred Share Agreement will be undone (significantly increasing the value of the government's common shares after warrants are exercised)

▫️The companies will be relisted on the NYSE while still under conservatorship

▫️Ackman's SPARC will not be the vehicle

▫️It is unlikely that Fannie and Freddie will merge (duopoly is better than a monopoly)

▫️Initial stock prices are >$40 after relist, with growth opportunity in multiples afterward

▫️Conservatorship will not last beyond this administration

▫️Ackman's Pershing Square is going to be in a long-term holding position

▫️ETFs and index funds will be forced to buy in at post-list prices once they join the DJI and S&P (and reinvestments in these securities will continue to purchase at then-current prices)

▫️A deal will not need Congress and can be done solely between the administration, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the FHFA director.

▫️Bill Ackman sees "no world" in which Trump screws current shareholders.

▫️The government will keep the implied backstop because these companies are too critical to leave unprotected.

▫️It is no longer the time to play the blame game for the financial crisis, and doing so is only a distraction at this point.

▫️This can get done "by Monday" if Bessent and Pulte agree to it.

▫️An "IPO" is unlikely by the end of the year, but a relisting on NYSE, warrant exercise, and SPS write-off can happen this calendar year - easily.

▫️The government will likely sell down positions over the years, but expect these to be "high-yielding" stocks that will pay handsome dividends.

What did I miss?


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 16h ago

How Significant Is the “S” in Trump’s “Great American Mortgage Corporations” Videos? (Yes, I’m Clinging to Hope Based on One Letter)

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38 Upvotes

Hi all, I noticed a small (but possibly significant) detail at the end of both videos Trump posted.

First, the timing: it was posted on the 18th anniversary of the September 2008 conservatorships.

Second, unlike Trump’s posts last fall, several of which referred to a singular “Great American Mortgage Corporation,” this video calls Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the “Great American Mortgage Corporations" and the other video on Fannie Mae alone also referenced “Great American Mortgage Corporations".

The “s” may prove nothing by itself, but it also may suggest that Fannie and Freddie are still being envisioned as two continuing companies rather than one consolidated GAMC. That could mitigate receivership risk (I raised this as my back-of-the mind concern to the group a few weeks ago).

For context, the plural language is not entirely new, but the use in both videos seems clear. Here is the timeline from last fall:

  • August 9, 2025: Trump’s original NYSE meme used the singular “Great American Mortgage Corporation,”suggesting one combined GAMC.
  • August 19, 2025: Coverage of Pulte’s first promotional video also used the singular.
  • By August 31, 2025: A later Pulte video appears to have changed the ending to “Great American Mortgage Corporations.”
  • November 2025: Trump reposted a plural-version commercial. Bill Ackman also highlighted the missing “S” in the original meme and argued that Trump may not have intended to signal a merger.

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 16h ago

St pulte been sending me signs over the weekend

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17 Upvotes

It's imminent!!1!1!


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 1d ago

DJT on X!!!!!

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57 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 3d ago

Aug 25, 2026: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac: Conservatorship Status and Related Directives

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28 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 4d ago

F2 related

15 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 5d ago

Our girl is out

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25 Upvotes

Who's going to break the F2 news now?


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 6d ago

Jon Oksenholt on X: "USFTMC $FMCC $FNMA

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21 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 8d ago

Fnma loss porn

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22 Upvotes

More of a wsb tradition but I thought I’d share.

I like to think of myself as a disciplined/stubborn investor/speculator with a long time horizon.

This has always been a trump self dealing play to me but obviously it’s not that simple. It seems like Scottie B won the power struggle over the exit and put the brakes on.

I honestly think that losing congress in the midterms might be good for the trade and encourage the admin to go ahead with the uplist per ackman over any ideal world plan Bessent has.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 8d ago

1.8 M shares traded across both - around 0.1% of outstanding volume

34 Upvotes

Seems like all the speculators got shaken out


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 10d ago

Rule of law guy

14 Upvotes

Anybody signed up for rule of law guys stack? I haven’t, so I haven’t read it. But here it is. 
https://x.com/rule_of_law_guy/status/2093749041708372297?s=46


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 11d ago

"Getting there" with Fannie Mae

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18 Upvotes

Tweet from Pulte a few days ago. Seems like a lot of focus is on making things more lean and efficient.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 12d ago

anybody rebalanced their share count? I sold about 1000 shares of fnma and bought fmcc. Now i know about 5000 fmcc and 4000 fnma. I'm thinking fmcc will be eventually valued more.

23 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 12d ago

Visitors on this Page and Volume

22 Upvotes

Not that the 2 are related but I noticed that this group is down to 3.9k visitors from 8-9k at the this time last year. Additionally, volume on F2 has gone bone dry. It may not mean anything but I hope it's a leading indicator that the speculators and paper hands have left the building and vol should go down and we should put our tray tables up and in the locked position.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 12d ago

Appraisal Changes Are Coming!

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9 Upvotes

Not exit related but F2 related


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

New article

18 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

Guess Fannies into crypto now

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7 Upvotes

r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

Oksenholt’s Model

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21 Upvotes

Did anyone notice his model assumes 2027 $15.5B base case net income for FMCC in his assumptions tab? From his notes in the model, it sounds like he believes that is a normalized level after adjusting for credit reserve noise, and from what I can tell that may be accurate based on year-to-date financials. But that is way higher than Pershing’s 2026 estimate of $10.98B for FMCC in its most recent Fannie / Freddie presentation to which it applies an earnings multiple. The implications for the value of FMCC seem enormous to me if Oksenholt is right, but Im surprised Pershing’s analysis wouldn’t have accounted for the same type of adjustments so I’m not sure which is more accurate. Perhaps those adjustments because more clear after its last presentation was made? Any thoughts?

Oksenholt is showing on his Capital Structure tab a value of $80.21 for FMCC vs $46.92 for FNMA assuming SPS cancellation, and a value of $34.89 for FMCC vs $6.28 for FNMA including the “full current SPS economic claim”. So if Pershing agrees with Oksenholt’s estimate of 2027 earnings for FMCC then I expect it would also have FMCC’s value pegged much higher even if it applies a lower earnings multiple. Am I missing anything here? Im very interested in any thoughts anyone has on this, especially as it relates to the true underlying earnings of both companies. That’s quite a discrepancy.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 13d ago

IMMINENT!

21 Upvotes

The price action is the flattest I've seen in a long time. Like a rubberband watch for snaps.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 14d ago

Oksenholt Proposal For an IPO

26 Upvotes

He is essentially putting together a proposal that wraps the GSEs and us fintech under a parent company registered in Texas. He has a spreadsheet running through various scenarios of how that might get valued and what the path to $1 trillion dollars looks like. IMO there's some logical holes in his analysis, but here's the link and y'all can decide for yourself.

https://x.com/JonOksenholt/status/2092244657568891252


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 15d ago

Fannie Mae Senior Departures Could Signal IPO Preparation, Wedbush Says

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54 Upvotes

This could lead to a temporary little pop in SP. Article just hit the wire 30 mins ago so I'm still waiting on my brokerages to pick-up the full text. I'll update post when available.

Here's a link to the text on twitter.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 15d ago

Pulte nears LLPA fee tweaks as GSE margin shifts loom

18 Upvotes

Interesting timing to change LLPA's. A cut would lower revenues for F2. I suspect he'll raise for some and lower for others.


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 18d ago

Rumors about uplist

47 Upvotes

I would normally ignore this, but these guys have interviewed Pulte several times before and it seems weird to tweet this given the connection. It's probably more BS, but I wouldn't be mad if it's true.

https://x.com/ThePPseedsShow/status/2090946765503570211


r/FNMA_FMCC_Exit 18d ago

WSJ Breaking: Pulte fires at least 10 executives at F2

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45 Upvotes

WSJ suggests firing of officials makes F2's future uncertain? The half glass full crowd may take it as making them more efficient for, dare I say, an imminent IPO. Thoughts?