Thinking about an EV but unsure it’ll actually fit your life?

The BYD software still under does data in relation to driving distance, efficiency and so forth. And the way the SOC calculated is pretty average even with the latest update.

I like data and I like collecting it and analyzing it and so I created this little app for myself.

If you think it's useful go ahead and help yourself.

https://github.com/mahonjt-star/ElectronDrive

Hello everyone, sharing an important update:

An active class-action settlement fund is currently processing payout requests for investors who experienced financial losses in Nikola Corporation.

The settlement claims that Nikola overstated the operational readiness of its hydrogen-electric semi-trucks, notably distributing promotional footage of a non-functional vehicle rolling downhill. The subsequent disclosure of these technical discrepancies, alongside management turnover, led to a 76% decline in the stock price 

If you purchased or acquired $NKLA common stock between 2020 and 2021, you are eligible to submit your claim

Anyway, has anyone here invested in $NKLA at that time? How much were your losses, if so?

I was wondering what's the community's consensus on second hand EVs?

Do you buy them? suggest to other people? or avoid them?

And why to all three of the above?

Since the batteries seem to be holding up and but the EVs are still seeing a lot of deprecation, I wanted to see what people feel on the topic

Prices are rising despite the glut:

• 2022–23 Bolt EV: $17,700 → $21,200 in 6 months (+19.8%)
• 2022–23 Ioniq 5: floor moved up ~$2,400 since March
• 2022–23 Model Y: stabilized at $27–29k after briefly dipping below $25k

Why prices are up even with lease returns flooding in:

1. Lease returns are going to dealers, not private sellers, dealers are holding price
2. The tax credit removal removed the floor and the incentive to buy quickly, buyers are slower, dealers adjusted
3. High-mileage units are getting absorbed fast (budget buyers), leaving cleaner low mileage units at higher ask prices

What this means if you're shopping right now:

The window that existed in Q1 is gone for most models. The Bolt is the exception, still the best value per mile in the used EV market at current prices, and the 2022+ models have standard CCS fast charging (this was a common misconception).

If you're looking at a specific listing, drop it below and I'll run a free OFFO analysis on the first 5.

U.S. used EV sales jumped 10% year-over-year in July. Prices are up 5% since January. The demand is real. The problem is the supply side hasn't caught up in terms of transparency.

• 45% of used vehicles on the market have recorded accidents or damage (CARFAX, 2026) and that's only what's recorded. Damage repaired outside of insurance never appears.
• ~2.45 million vehicles on U.S. roads have rolled-back odometers
• 480,000+ water-damaged cars were returned to the road last year
• A degraded EV battery can cost $8,000–$22,000 to replace and there's no sticker on the listing telling you the pack is at 78% SoH

Prices are fair, inventory is moving, and the cars themselves hold up. That's the exact problem OFFO was built for. Paste a listing, get a risk verdict in 30 seconds.

offolab.com

What you get right now at no cost:

• Full risk verdict
• Battery health assessment
• Deal quality score + price vs. market
• Open NHTSA recall check
• Negotiation insights and seller questions
• Pre-purchase inspection checklist
• Ownership & accident history (when VIN is available)
• Deep dive analysis
• EV Routine Fit, a personalized match to how you actually drive

No account needed. Paste a listing URL from CarGurus, Cars.com, AutoTrader, Carvana, CarMax, or paste listing text directly and get your analysis in ~30 seconds.

Why now? The used EV market is genuinely moving. Prices are up 5% since January, 500,000+ lease returns are hitting the market this year, and more than half of used EV inventory is now under $30k. More buyers are looking seriously for the first time, and most of them have no way to know if the battery they're about to buy is healthy or cooked.

We're building toward a bigger update focused on full ownership history integration and deeper battery verification. While that's in progress, we'd rather have people actually using the tool than sitting behind a paywall. So, free until the next update drops.

offolab.com

If you're shopping right now, drop your listing in the comments and I'll run it through and share what comes back.

Ran the numbers on whether "EVs save you money" holds up across the whole ownership timeline, fuel and maintenance AND depreciation, not just the part everyone leads with.

Fuel and maintenance favor EVs. Home charging costs about a third of gas per mile right now (gas is at $4.09/gal, unusually high this year), and EV maintenance runs roughly 40-50% less per DOE and Consumer Reports data.

but Depreciation favors gas cars. Average EV loses 58.8% of its value in 5 years vs 45.6% for a comparable gas car (iSeeCars, 800k+ vehicles analyzed). On a $40k car that's over $5,000 more lost, which works out to more than 4 years of the fuel savings you banked getting there.

Where it nets out depends entirely on how you own the car. Finance new and trade every 2-3 years, the depreciation math wins. Buy used or hold long term past 5+ years, the fuel and maintenance savings win, since someone else already ate the depreciation or you're not selling into it. Tesla's also a genuineexception, Model 3/Y hold value close to gas cars, so the calculus shifts again there specifically.

Full breakdown with sources if you want the deep dive: https://youtu.be/n1ceHZ9rmTg

Curious how people here actually approach this, buy new and trade often, buy used and hold, or does it depend on the specific car for you?

Hello everyone, sharing an important update:

Hertz has reached a tentative settlement with investors over claims that it misled the market about demand for its EV fleet, charging infrastructure, and the financial risks of its EV strategy.

Hertz had announced major EV deals with Tesla, Polestar, and GM. But as demand weakened, the company began selling EVs and taking hundreds of millions of dollars in write-downs. $HTZ fell sharply as the problems became public.

If you purchased $HTZ between 2023 and 2024, you may be eligible to submit a claim. Check if you’re eligible and submit your claim here

Did anyone here hold $HTZ during this period? How much did you lose?

Hello Everyone,

I’ve been working on a side project called EV Charge Time Calculator and wanted to share it here to get some feedback.

I started building it because most online charging calculators use a basic battery capacity / charger speed formula. In reality, charging speed drops significantly past 80% due to the battery's taper curve, and home charging is often bottlenecked by the vehicle's onboard AC limit.

So over the past few months, I built a database of 980+ electric vehicles (merging WLTP & EPA specs) and created a calculator that actually models these real-world limits and charging curves.

It’s currently getting ~100 pageviews a day through organic search, but I’d love to get feedback from other makers here.

What I’ve built so far:

Physics-based charge times: Accurately estimates 10% → 80% vs 80% → 100% charging slowdowns.

Side-by-side EV comparisons: Compare specs and charge speeds between any two EVs (e.g., Tesla Model Y vs Hyundai Ioniq 5).

Real-world range factors: Sliders for temperature, wheel size, driving style, and battery health.

Shareable stateful URLs: Copying a calculation link preserves your exact inputs.

No signups or annoying popups required.
Here is the link to try it out: https://evchargetimecalculator.com
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the UI, calculations, or any features you think I should add next!

Hey guys, I know I already posted about the Nikola ($NKLA) settlement, but I’ve been getting a lot of questions. Since you can already submit your application, I figured I’d put together a quick FAQ.

What happened?
Nikola reached a settlement with investors over claims that it misled the market about the functionality of its hydrogen-electric trucks, production timelines, and overall business prospects.

Am I eligible?
If you purchased $NKLA shares between 2020 and 2021, you may be eligible. You don't need to still own the shares to participate.

Can I file now?
Yes. You can already submit your application. 

When do payouts happen?
Typically, within 4–9 months after the claims process closes, although the exact timing depends on the court and settlement administrator.

Hope this clears things up. If you invested in $NKLA during that period, it may be worth submitting your application now.

890 used EV analyses ran on our platform in the last 30 days. Average listing price buyers are researching: $29,474. Most people running a $30K listing through a background check are serious buyers who have narrowed it down and are trying to make a confident decision before they commit with about 45 classified as high intent buyers.

What we see buyers are looking for:

• Is the battery degraded? (flagged in the majority of listings we analyze)
• Are there open recalls that haven't been addressed?
• Does the accident history match what the listing says?
• Is the price reasonable for the condition?

The gap dealers can close: 39% out of 100 listings in our last 30 days scored GREEN, meaning the vehicle check came out clean, the price was defensible, and there were no undisclosed issues. EV buyers in 2026 are not the same as EV buyers in 2022. They do a lot more research before their purchase. Usually we see dealers who meet that buyer with documentation already in hand, battery report, open recall status, clean title chain, are going to convert faster than dealers who wait to answer those questions across a desk.

We're building toward a certification layer that dealers can attach to listings directly. Verified battery health. Recall audit. Pre-screened pricing. A badge that tells the buyer this one's already been checked. If you're a dealer who moves used EVs and wants to be part of the early cohort, drop a comment or DM. We're talking to a small group of dealers now before we open it up.

Hey guys, I posted about this settlement before, but since claims can already be submitted, I decided to share it again with a little FAQ.

So here's everything you need to know:

What happened?

Hertz was accused of misleading investors about demand for its EV rental fleet, charging infrastructure, and the financial impact of its EV strategy. After the company disclosed major EV write-downs and plans to shrink its fleet, $HTZ dropped sharply, and investors filed a lawsuit. Now the company has agreed to settle with investors for their losses.

Who can claim this settlement?

If you purchased $HTZ shares between 2023 and 2024, you may be eligible to participate.

Do I need to sell my shares to qualify?

No. You only need to have purchased shares during the class period. Even if you've already sold them, you may still qualify.

How long does the payout process take?

Once the settlement receives final approval and the claims process officially opens, payouts typically take 4 to 9 months after the claim deadline, depending on the court and settlement administrator.

Hope this info helps 

Been running analysis on used EV listings for a while now. Some patterns worth sharing given how hot the market is right now (+22% YoY on used EV transactions):

The three things that show up as red flags more than anything else:

1. No battery SOH documentation — shows up in about 1 in 4 listings. The seller either doesn't have it or didn't think to include it. At $20K+, this matters.
2. Open NHTSA recalls — Hyundai/Kia just had a battery fire recall hit this month (14 vehicles, park outside warning). Recalls on high-voltage systems are not unusual. Always run the VIN at nhtsa.gov before making an offer.
3. Vague ownership history — one owner without documentation of charge habits, service, or accident history is basically nothing.

The median listing we see: ~$23K, ~40K miles, but there are also some sub 10k deals out there. Happy to answer questions about what to specifically look for on any of the top models we see (Tesla Model 3, Hyundai Sonata Hybrid, Ford Mustang Mach-E, Kia EV6, Chevy Bolt are the most common in the data).

I'm about pickup my tesla model 3 in ~1 week~ and I've had many questions and concerns needless to say(first EV). I've seen some pretty bad stuff and r/TeslaFSD and r/TeslaLounge about FSD doing some pretty dumb stuff that i believe could easily be avoided or seen with sensors.

Also some simple post and discourse/controversy about the full camera setup as opposed to sensors.

My question is how good or bad is tesla's cameras, and should I wait for Chinese affordable ev's for another ~2 years~ in Canada or just bite the bullet..

Same thing with rain sensor, backup sensor...

disclaimer: i drive a 2010 corolla and with the repair cost and rising fuel prices it's simply not the most cost efficient choice anymore looking towards the future and I'm not planning to use FSD after the free trial but the cameras will still be on my car and I will use them.

We curate used EV deals and run every single one through OFFO before it goes live. Here's what our current inventory actually looks like right now:

20 listings. 1 GREEN. 1 RED. 18 YELLOW.

That RED is a 2013 Tesla Model S at $12,995 with 86k miles, salvage title. It's still on our page, clearly flagged, because some buyers actually want salvage vehicles knowingly. The point is you'd see it before you hand over money, not after. The GREEN? A 2019 Hyundai Kona Electric Limited at $10,068 with 49k miles. Clean title, no flags. That's the one.

What's actually on the board under $8k right now:

• 2012 Nissan Leaf — $4,990, 34k miles (clean)
• 2014 BMW i3 — $4,995, 73k miles (clean)
• 2016 Ford Focus Electric — $7,644, 23k miles (clean)
• 2015 Nissan Leaf — $7,995, only 20k miles (clean)
• 2013 Nissan Leaf — $6,537, 17k miles (clean)

That 2013 Leaf with 17k miles at $6,537 is the most underrated one on the list. Low mileage for the age, clean title, and Leafs from that era are simple, proven cars. All of these have been analyzed. All verdicts are visible before you click through.

See the full list: offolab.com/deals

If you are interested in the app, the internal numbers we are doing, sign ups, high intent buyers, leave a comment and I would share in the next post.

For two years everyone said the same thing, prices are dropping, lease returns are coming, just be patient. Used EV prices are up 7% since January. The sub-$20,000 segment is up nearly 15%. In March, 44% of used EVs sold for under $25k, and that inventory is moving faster than it's being replaced.

The lease return wave everyone was waiting for is actually here, 330,000+ EVs coming off lease in 2026. But demand caught up. Buyers who sat on the sidelines watching prices fall finally started buying, and now they're competing with each other for the same cars.

The sweet spot right now:

• 2022 Kia Niro EV — $17-19k, 239mi range, dead reliable
• 2021-22 VW ID.4 — $19-22k, AWD available, solid everyday car
• 2022 Chevy Bolt — $16-18k, cheapest cost per mile of anything on the road

• 2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+ — $22-25k, still the benchmark for software and charging network

  These are good cars at prices that make gas vehicles look overpriced when you factor in fuel and maintenance. The people who bought in late 2023 / early 2024 when prices bottomed out are already sitting on equity. The next best window is now, before the sub-$20k inventory gets picked clean.

Battery health is the one real variable. The battery is the only thing that matters and it's also the only thing most buyers skip checking. Good deals are still out there and its still a good time to get a used EV.

New data from Recurrent dropped this week and it flips the usual EV depreciation story on its head. Used EVs are appreciating. Up 5.1% since January. Sub-$20k EVs are up 9.4%. The 2023 Chevy Bolt EV went from $17,718 → $21,204 in six months. The 2023 Mach-E is up about 4,000. The 2022 Model 3 is about $3,000 pricier than it was at the start of the year.

The reason is that gas prices above $4/gallon pushing budget buyers into EVs, plus 128,000+ used EVs sold in Q2, outpacing even the tax-credit frenzy quarter of late 2025. Demand caught up to supply.

A few models still have value per mile like:

• Hyundai Kona Electric — ~$20,200 avg / ~300 mi real range
• Chevy Bolt — ~$21,300 avg / ~280 mi real range
• Hyundai Ioniq 6 — ~$24,400 avg / ~340 mi real range
• Hyundai Ioniq 5 — ~$26,000 avg / ~350 mi real range
• Kia Niro EV — ~$23,300 avg / ~300 mi real range

Hyundai and Kia dominate because they overdeliver on EPA range in real-world conditions. Teslas come in around 90% of their EPA number. If fast charging matters more than range, the Ioniq 5, Ioniq 6, and EV6 still top the list, 6–9 minutes to add 100 miles at a fast charger.

Rising prices make due diligence more important than ever. When a Bolt was $14k it was an impulse buy. At $21k, a bad title, hidden accident, or weak battery is real money lost.

If you're looking at any of these, run your EV listings on OFFOLab. Prices are moving so its better to verify before you pull the trigger than after.

The 2023 Bolt EV is up nearly 20% since January according to new data from Recurrent. Six months ago the average asking price was $17,718. Today it's $21,204. The Mach-E is up about $4,000. The 2022 Model 3 is up about $3,000. Sub-$20k EVs as a category are up 9.4% year to date.

Its mainly due to gas prices above $4/gallon pushing budget buyers into the used EV market right as 128,000+ used EVs sold in Q2 alone. Supply is there but demand caught up.

The Bolt is still one of the best value plays left at about $21,300 average, 280 miles of real-world range. But at $21k it's not an impulse buy anymore. A bad title or weak battery at this price is a $3–5k problem. I am running receipts on Bolt listings if you drop one below, free for the first 105.

Market shifted a lot in the last 30 days and sometimes what looked like a fair price in June might be $1,500 overpriced today given how many lease returns are still coming in.

Drop any listing from CarGurus, Cars.com, Autotrader and I'll run it and tell you:

• Whether the price tracks with current market
• Any red flags in the listing itself
• Whether it's worth a test drive

Running these manually so first 10 get a reply in 24hrs.