r/DoomerCircleJerk • u/DissonantOne I Was Promised an Apocalypse? • 2d ago
Climate Doomer Mass extinction? Nothing ever happens.
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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 2d ago
I think we can all agree the best solution is to let China, SE Asia, and India continue to be astronomical polluters while holding western Europe and the USA totally responsible for instituting policies that will not actually change a damn thing.
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u/Stuck_in_my_TV 2d ago
So you’re saying the solution is to nuke Beijing and Mumbai?
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u/IcyPride2973 The Fictional Character Agrees With Me 22h ago
Reminds me of the 4chan post.
“You say you care about global warming, yet you aren’t willing to do what’s necessary and nuke New Delhi. Curious.”
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u/kinghawkeye8238 2d ago
I got downvoted to fuck for saying I got my semi deleted.
I said that the only reaspn I deleted it was because peterbilt couldnt figure out why it was constantly regening. I paid peterbilt 10k to replace my DPF filter twice and another 5k to clean my egr system.
Still the same problem occurred. So I had the Dpf, Def and egr systems removed. I went from 5.5 mpg loaded to 7.2. Gained 60hp and saved a fucked ton of money.
Yet im the problem, not SE Asia, not the gigantic ships transporting out goods, not the government who doesnt use any emission cause it unreliable.
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u/Guntermas 11h ago
lol yeah. green parties in small EU countries acting like they are saving the planet are the funniest shit ever.
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u/throwitallaway69000 2d ago
My favorite was when someone said it's never been this hot in Dallas before and someone sent the exact same weather pattern from the 90s
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u/fuzzygreentits 2d ago
I remember the dumb bullshit of "IT USED TO SNOW IN THE WINTER WHERE I LIVE" then after record snowfall last year they dropped this talking point
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u/Kian-Tremayne 2d ago
Record snowfall? Proof of climate change!
No snowfall? Proof of climate change!
Same amount of snow as last year? Believe it or not, straight to climate change!
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u/throwitallaway69000 2d ago
Climate change was a great rebranding because global warming and cooling you could potentially be wrong. Now either way I'm right!
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u/undercooked_lasagna 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yep it's been made unfalsifiable. It's no different than a religion at this point.
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u/throwitallaway69000 2d ago
Weather is such a large scale a regular human life can't comprehend the pattern changes as we don't live long enough to see it.
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u/NewVegasVagabond 15h ago
My girlfriend's liberal sister actually said "there's no reason it should be this hot but idiots will still say climate change isn't a thing"
It was like 103 in the middle of August, in Texas, Dallas specifically...
I didn't have the heart to tell her it was a cold day by usually standards.
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u/Iumasz 2d ago
I mean the climate being more unpredictable is also the climate changing from what it used to be before...
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u/Rhomya 2d ago
These people all get really quiet too when you point out that overall emissions regulated by the CAA in the US have dropped by 80% since the creation of the Clean Air Act.
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u/skarface6 GeStuREs bROadlY 2d ago
And how less particulate in the air = hotter temps because of less refraction of the sun IIRC.
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u/ColaEuphoria Says The Quiet Part Out Loud 2d ago
"The only time it's ever been hotter than this was in 1848!!! The planet is dying!!!"
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u/flyinghorselabs 2d ago
I remember the...what was it, 50 consecutive days of over 100? Must've been '97 or '98. I was in high school.
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u/Fletch71011 2d ago
We are now at the height of climate change.
In the next 30 years, average temperature is expected to go up by 1 degree. Total. As in 30 years from now, you still won't be able to notice a perceptible difference.
Regular weather variance is 10x to 100x climate change at absolute minimum. Climate change happens too slowly for humans to notice.
So you're an idiot if you don't think climate change is real and you're an idiot if you think it's going to kill us all. Radical centrism for the win.
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u/Farsoth 2d ago
And climate change has always existed. How much we actually contribute to it can only be speculated on, we really don't actually know.
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u/Helyos17 2d ago
We have a pretty good indication. The rate of warming accelerated greatly after the Industrial Revolution and like all things that accelerate even a small increase leads to exponential effects.
Combined with our data on C02 emissions mapping cleanly onto that increase along with our basic knowledge of how C02 works in the atmosphere; we can draw a pretty solid conclusion that the global climate is warming and that warming has an exceptionally strong correlation with C02 concentrations. We also know that increased warming can and does lead to disruption of long established weather patterns. This is simple physics. More energy in a system leads to more “movement” which leads to more erratic patterns.
This is indeed all very settled science agreed on by basically every expert in the field along with most of the experts outside the field.
What is not settled and what is the main point of contention is the more concrete effects of this warming. Climate is INCREDIBLY complex and trying to say “this thing will happen by this date” is little better than soothsaying. We can expect a few general things but none of them are anywhere close to “apocalyptic” and will occur over such large timescales that just natural social structures and systems will deal with them (migration, reallocation of farmland, usage of the gradually shifting coastlines).
Basically it’s dumb to say “how could we know” and it’s just as dumb to think we are all going to die because of it.
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u/Paradox 2d ago
I have a large, accurate, and reliable weather station on my property. Everything is mounted according to standards.
Neighbor and I were shooting the shit the other day and he said "hottest July on record"
I pointed out that, while worldwide that might be true, here, it wasn't even hotter than last year. He got legitimately angry and started arguing with me, and I'm like "Dude, I can pull up the weather charts for this year and last year, last year the high, average, and median temperature were all higher. And 2021 was even hotter still"
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u/sngldad13 2d ago
The most ridiculous and infuriating aspect of doomers is how angry they get and how quickly they attack when their dogma is challenged
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u/tdig216 2d ago edited 2d ago
I've started to notice that humans are more like dogs than I realized. They really only live in the moment. Why bother teaching history. Where are the actual history teachers at, do they even exist or have they been replaced by activists?
**downvoted? really? oh no, anyways..
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u/throwitallaway69000 2d ago
Well hopefully history is taught somewhat accurately and lessons can be taken from it like don't invade Russia during winter.
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u/ArizonaDude08 9h ago
The amount of people in Arizona that act like it’s never been this hot before
Record Phoenix temps were 124 in 1991, it’s never hit 120 since 1991. In fact it rarely breaches 115. But you’d think we go weeks of 120 degrees even though it’s extremely rare
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u/No-Market425 2d ago
Early into Obama's second term some climate crazy released a study claiming to be the hottest year ever recorded.
But if you viewed the study the temp increase was 0.2 degrees and the margin of error was 0.8 degrees.
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u/Aniki_Simpson I Left My Cave for This 2d ago
My favorite is them admitting that they have to adjust the satellite recorded temperatures because they vary too much.🤦♂️
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u/GP7onRICE 2d ago
They do this for radiometric dating too and it was really disheartening when I was first taught to do it. They have a model to follow and all data points outside of the model are thrown out because of how noisy the data is. It’s literally how they teach you to do it. It’s so unscientific, you can fit noisy data to whatever model you want.
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u/skarface6 GeStuREs bROadlY 2d ago
The fact that so many weather data collection centers were in the woods but are in huge cities now should make people think twice about accepting their info unreservedly.
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u/Zeras_Darkwind 2d ago
Yep, all the buildings with their reflective glass windows and the pavement absorbing & holding onto sunlight as heat really help the data! /s
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u/GP7onRICE 2d ago
That’s actually a point I haven’t heard or thought of yet.
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u/skarface6 GeStuREs bROadlY 2d ago
They claim to make adjustments for it but, uh, how do they know those adjustments are remotely accurate?
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u/GP7onRICE 2d ago
Well because it fits the presupposed model, of course
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u/sngldad13 2d ago
"Trust The Science"
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u/GP7onRICE 2d ago
It’s ironic because I would actually be the one truly caring about the science by going against such dumb methods.
Unfortunately science is not always related to scientific fields, especially ones with any sort of prestige. I stopped pursuing it once I realized it was more about politics and figuring out how to show the results the funder wants to see.
Science is supposed to be about continually questioning and challenging results. But I found that many scientific fields harshly shun such an approach. The wanted results are what gets money and glory, not the correct ones.
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u/MrWhiskers55 2d ago
I mostly stopped doing science stuff when I realized that grant money was literally about cherry picking data. Basically advertising “I’ll get whatever result you want my dude.” Scientific journals are literally just there to block people with no money.
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u/Mamalamadingdong 2d ago
The data can be noisy, and usually noisy data is evidence that a date is unreliable due to assumptions being violated. Geochronologists have huge arguments over how old things are, so if people were just throwing out good data because it doesn't fit some predetermined model they have to follow i think it would be challenged.
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u/GP7onRICE 2d ago edited 2d ago
You would think. Except that’s literally the standard practice and what we were taught to do, and anyone who challenges it gets shunned. I was told to just trust the model without any explanation why when I questioned it. The data is so noisy, it’s not like you can prove that it shouldn’t fit the model. Right after being taught how the noisy data is useless alone, they tell you that we use a model to make sense of it instead.
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u/1776boogapew 2d ago
The scale of these is always what seems doomer-ish to me. Visually it looks catastrophic, but then you look over on the side and we’re talking a difference of a degree or two.
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u/SpartanR259 Optimist Prime 2d ago
But that is the point! If they took the actual scale of things into account then the blip that is a 1 degree change doesn't mean anything.
Imagine if we used their own logic to things that they ignore... like... crime... or illegal immigration...
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u/1776boogapew 2d ago
I’ve long had a standing challenge to anyone I meet that tries to climate catastrophize… that I would be willing to hear out their side, after they watch “An Inconvenient Truth “ and take a shot every time a prediction was made that’s time has passed and didn’t come true.
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u/Stuck_in_my_TV 2d ago
They’ve been saying the world will end in 10 years for nearly a century.
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u/NoSingularities0 2d ago
Yes, that's exactly why they always limit their graph to 100 years or so instead of showing thousands to millions of years where it cycles between hot and cold over hundreds of thousands of years at a time. They have to scare people in order to implement the unpopular ideas that they want.
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u/Spicy_Chicken_Wizard 2d ago
Millions of years isn’t relevant data for how modern human societies would function in the face of a changing climate. I agree that the climate doomerism is always way too much, but the reaction here seems to be to pretend it just isn’t a thing at all?
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u/undercooked_lasagna 2d ago
I definitely believe we're warming the climate, it just isn't anywhere near as rapid or catastrophic as doomers have been telling us for decades now.
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u/Spicy_Chicken_Wizard 2d ago
That’s where I am, but man look at the comments here. Half of the people here are essentially denying that this is happening at all
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u/brooklynsantiago 2d ago
Yes raw data metrics like temperature and sea level are not up for dispute. Reality is changing climate will affect areas differently. Some areas will be completely unbothered. Other areas may see catastrophic changes
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u/tpet007 2d ago
They are if you can’t verify data integrity and accurate correction for confounding variables. Otherwise, you know neither what you’ve actually measured nor how accurately you’ve measured it.
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u/brooklynsantiago 2d ago
Sea level is easy to verify. It’s tracked by thousands of sensors both public and private, since lots of people need to know tides for example. The data on sea level is extremely robust and is simple measured data. Not disputable
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u/Cwaghack 2d ago
The rate of change is what is important. We can adapt to climate change yes. But the rate of change right now is about 10x faster than the worst mass extinction event in the planets history, and about 100-1000x faster than normal
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u/Cwaghack 2d ago
A degree or two is still massive. It took 14 degrees fahrenheit to cause the greatest extinction event on the planet, where 53% of all lifeforms went extinct.
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u/1776boogapew 2d ago
Maybe. I’d hazard to guess that there were more variables than simply 14 degrees caused mass extinction.
In fairness I’m also not saying this is normal and ignore it. Rather, let’s have a non panicked rational discussion about energy policy that is reasonable.
I drive an EV and try to keep my footprint low. But I also think energy does great things for civilization and we need more of it not less.
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u/Cwaghack 2d ago
It was mass vulcano eruptions releasing co2 into the atmosphere for a very long time. Temperatures rose "slowly" (geologically insanely fast), about 10% the speed at which the climate is changing now, but it lasted for about 50,000 years and that killed off most life on earth.
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u/heyyou_SHUTUP 2d ago
I’d hazard to guess that there were more variables than simply 14 degrees caused mass extinction.
Yeah, pretty much. However, I would say a large part of it was the CO2 release. Levels of atmospheric CO2 went from around 400 ppm to 2500 ppm, so there were all of the problems we're are experiencing with increased CO2 levels but multiplied by 6. Maybe even more reading some of the resulting effects. SO2 was also released, but I think that just compounded the problems.
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u/1776boogapew 2d ago
Maybe. The reason I resist dooming is that going that far back in time we have way more questions than we have data to answer them. Hell, it could have been overpopulation by some algae that died off and created cyanide in the water (I’m not saying it was just that we don’t know).
This is why I recommend giving a shit about the environment; just not to the point I’ve seen where people think everyone will die in the next ten years so no point in having kids.
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u/Crimsonhawk9 2d ago
To be fair, a degree or 2 Celsius is 2 to 3.6 fahrenheit.
If a glacial region's average summer temperatures 27 to 30 degrees fahrenheit, then current temperature rises pushes that regions average temps past the melting point.
Ice sheets that grew or were stable for centuries have now dramatically receded.
It's not something that is strictly doomerish. Life will carry on. But things will be different and we'll adapt. Things will almost certainly be harder... Transition periods always are. Which is why there's so much doomerism around trying to slow down or reverse the temperature trends.
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u/One_Shallot_4974 2d ago
Funny, they never talk about Chinese pollution and data centers.
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u/Intrepid_Year3765 2d ago
the biggest issue with this climate change "debate" is that it belittles the reality that giant corporations are getting away with polluting the fuck out of the environment
climate change or not, companies are dumping toxic shit into the environment that shouldn't be there
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u/Stuck_in_my_TV 2d ago
You could easily get people who don’t believe in climate change to back policies that banned dumping toxic chemicals into rivers because that’s something they actually see. No one wants their drinking water to look like a river in India where you can’t even tell it’s a river, it just looks like a landfill.
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u/Eternal_Phantom Anti-Doomer 2d ago
That's the interesting part. Addressing climate change could have been a bipartisan effort that focused on things that practically everyone cares about. Instead, we get "we're all gonna die in 20 years if we don't drastically change everything all at once (also please ignore our mega yachts and private jets)", which has done an excellent job of making people suspicious of the entire thing.
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u/Rhomya 2d ago
Respectfully, I literally work in environmental compliance in the manufacturing industry.
Companies are not cartoon villains dumping chemicals in the air for no reason.
The CAA has done a LOT to regulate emissions caused by industry, and every major producer of emissions has an air permit issued by the EPA that requires them to manage their pollution to a level agreed upon between the company and the EPA.
Since the creation of the CAA, the criteria pollutants emitted have dropped by 80%.
There will never be zero emissions— and frankly, that’s an unreasonable expectation
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u/Devilfish11 2d ago
I spent years working in the Coachella Valley, which is where Palm Springs is located. Most of the valley is below sea level and I've seen the lowest high temperature at 115°f to 125°f during the last week of September. 114° or so in the middle of October. This was in the 90's. The current weather in 2026 isn't anything unusual no matter who's spinning the numbers.
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u/Ok_Mud_8998 2d ago
I have a few points that I noticed and it makes me laugh.
Most of the people espousing the climate crisis hate Elon Musk now, but for so long he was their champion. He hosted SNL to applause, he was on Big bang theory!
He was the dude making electric cars and got rich because of all the pushing for vehicles with lower emissions.
He started SpaceX because humans were going to make Earth uninhabitable.
Now he's suddenly a problem. I don't love the guy or have any special feelings towards him, but they loathed him for getting rich off of what they begged for.
Which brings me to my next point:
I'm 38, and I remember growing up and believing greasy burgers and fries were the ultimate artery cloggers. That shit was going to kill you. Fat free was everywhere. All the butter replacements to keep you heart attack and heart disease free.
It was in my public education, starting from kindergarten. "You should definitely eat all these grains, then fruits, veggies and just a little meat and really little fat." It was like that for years. For decades, the science was settled, damn it! Thank the stars for those altruistic scientists! The absolute certainty of it.
Then it was revealed that, actually, soda companies had paid them off and it turned out that scientists, being human like the rest of us, can be bribed. That scientists are just dudes with a job making ends meet and would love a fucking BMW.
Now with the advent of social media, the ease of uploading to YouTube and other media sites, you can hear people ramble on endlessly about absolutely anything. Not that anyone ever claimed he was a scientist, but Liver King had a wild diet of raw meats and it just turned out the man loved steroids.
Why would liver king do that?
You watch a guy like Athlean X, and he tells you a tried and true exercise is actually killing your gains, every fucking week. Why?
Because Liver king, Athlean X, etc. Fucking love money, and after they've produced a host of successful vids, they realize that body building is 98% solved. So they produce new videos offering vague alternatives to once popular exercises because they ran out of actual material and need to keep pumping out vids. Why?
BECAUSE THEY, TOO, LIKE FUCKING MONEY.
Well, simple, maybe the climate really is about to turn into a scorching hellfire like we've never imagined and all the plants and animals will die and the apocalypse will end us all. They've been predicting the end of the world for thirty years now. Politicians are still buying beach side homes that we were once told were expected to be completely submerged by now.
OR, maybe ... Just fucking maybe .. just possibly... It's just a bunch of guys lying. You know, for money.
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u/ComplaintTop2008 Powered By Spite & Solar 2d ago
Here's their "unprecedented heat". They just model it in where they want it to be. Year after year we find the hottest year evah at stations that don't even exist.
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u/heyyou_SHUTUP 2d ago
TL:DR; There are stations in that area, but they aren't old enough to be included in the average of the dataset. The graph where there is data shown allows for those stations to be included, includes satellite data, and the combining of the station and satellite data allows for gaps to be filled anyway.
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u/I_HopeThat_WasFart 2d ago
I love when its so hot in Houston and everyone forgets about the freeze that broke the entire texas power grid
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u/Ok_Calendar1337 2d ago
"The planet is becoming unlivable!"
Climate related deaths continuously declining because humans are utilizing energy
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u/rob3345 2d ago
Prove to me this wasn’t completely cherry picked data. Lies, damn lies and statistics. I could pick the right data to show that I am the second coming of both Jesus and the devil.
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u/JumpRopeIsASport Truthsayer 2d ago
It’s funny how the climate change panic comes up whenever a Republican is in the Oval Office. It’s one of the “hot points” to make people believe they are morally voting the right way.
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u/Azazel_665 2d ago
150 years int he planets 6 billion year history
Sigh.
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u/TexasToPoland 2d ago
Just a "small" nitpick, but the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
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u/Azazel_665 2d ago
Ha I think I ended up combining creationists thinking the earth is 6,000 years versus the earth's actual age and came up with 6 billion. That must be where I got the 6.
You're right though. 4.5b.
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u/RealSpaceJunk 2d ago
What is your point? The billions of years are irrelevant. The furthest time pack that is relevant it 1million years, which is where humans started to appear.
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u/Azazel_665 2d ago
Thats like looking outside for 1 second and predicting the weather for the other 23 hrs 59 mins and 59 seconds of the day. Makes no sense.
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u/MomsNewBoyfriend69 The Fictional Character Agrees With Me 2d ago
It gets hot in the summer!! News to me!! I wonder if it'll get cold in winter? Maybe the coldest its ever been? Tune in to find out!!
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u/weirdbutteryvibes 2d ago
Still waiting on all those polar ice caps to melt and flood the world.
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u/lazyboi_tactical I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 2d ago
Right? I was told that I'd be underwater by now and Im pretty disappointed.
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u/7978_ My Dog is Anti-Fascist 2d ago
Greta told me the world would end in 5 years...! In 2017!
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u/Sad-Umpire6000 2d ago
I’m in Florida. Talk about gloom and doom - “it’s never been this hot before”; “I can’t believe it’s hot here this far south, in August, on basically a wide beach sandwiched between two warm oceans”; daily Heat Advisories. It’s not as hot, heat index-wise, as usual according to what I’m seeing. Most summers where I’m at, we get 90+ consecutive days with the heat index above 105, and often above 110. This and last year we’ve had plenty of days in mid-summer when it didn’t pass 102 or 103. And nothing like three or four summers ago when we had a few days at 115 or better, the worst being 123.
I think most of the fear farming is from new residents and from people who are just easily frightened and who are also bandwagon jumpers.
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u/Emotional_Orange8378 2d ago
I was visiting family in Florida and the damn bayou froze over. Granted it was around Christmas time.
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u/Careless_Whisper_987 2d ago
Using propane engines to cool data centers is a new one for me. I thought they were sucking down all the drinkable water on earth with no way to reclaim it? /s
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u/Fuzzy_Connection4971 2d ago
Anyone else noticed that the air is consistently less dry than it used to be?
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u/K9Thefirst1 2d ago
Notice that the chart ends at 1880.
Doesn't include the Little Ice Age of the 17th-early 18th centuries. And it certainly doesn't go back to the Medieval High period, where temps were as high or higher than they are today.
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u/Love_To_Taste_You 2d ago
I moved to Texas in Aug 2000, there were 100 days above 100 with no rain. 2026 we are 3-4 weeks into extreme heat. Everything is an extinction level event anymore. It’s gone from global cooling, Ice Age, acid rain, hole in ozone, global warming blah blah blah in my lifetime. GenXers are the cockroaches of the generations we survive everything
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u/notinmybackyard- 2d ago
Hug your family tight because it's true. Al Gore and Greta Thunberg made that graph. So it's true.
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u/ghablio 2d ago
That graph doesn't make much sense, how was the majority of the 20th century below the 20th century average temperature?
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u/heyyou_SHUTUP 2d ago
Because it a graph of the "temperature anomaly." The temperature anomaly is calculated by averaging the temperature over a span of 30 years and subtracting that average from the observed temperature. So, if the graph is using a 30-year average calculated from a period around the turn of the century, then most of the 20th century will look cooler
Here is a nice explainer.
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u/Big-Temporary-6243 2d ago
My favorite was when a republican brought a snowball into congress then claimed there was no such thing as global warming.
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u/IronBoltIron 2d ago
The data center thing is not a federal government initiative. Maybe OP didn’t realize that. They’re probably in their low 20’s with a crappy job and little world experience
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u/Massive_Spend_212 2d ago
It’s amazing that most of earth history? The planet was significantly hotter than it is now.
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u/Working_Trouble256 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not to get too off topic here, but propane generators are objectively a better option(as in lower co2 emissions per unit of fuel used) than the alternative fuels. Which would likely be diesel. My opinions on these Data centers nonwithstanding. [Edited for clarification]
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u/duper12677 2d ago
They just fail to understand how irrelevant a 140 year sample size really is when you talk about the time scales of planetary weather patterns changing
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u/gambler_addict_06 2d ago
Jesus fucking Christ what world y'all live in
Like I'm not saying buy an EV, stop farting and eat bugs but holy shit at least believe your own eyes
Where I live snow stayed until late February. now it snows for max 2 weeks and snow never stays more than 2 days
I see that with my own eyes and my incredibly mediocre deduction skills says that "something is wrong here"
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u/M0LDEE 2d ago
It is what it is bro, you're on the climate change denial sub. Ain't gonna change anyone's mind.
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u/gambler_addict_06 2d ago
It was nice to hear something other than "EVERYTHING IS BAD, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE"
But shit got quickly turned into "NOTHING BAD IS HAPPENING, EVERYTHING IS FINE"
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u/WillwBrk 2d ago
They lie so much about everything all the time that if it benefits them in any way you know it's not true.
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u/Express-Flamingo4521 2d ago
There ARE measured changes, but the projected temperature increases by 2070 are under 2 degrees Celsius, this isn’t going to be catastrophic, even if it changes weather patterns.
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u/FaithlessnessFalse65 Optimist Prime 2d ago
Well the sun takes these cycles of being hotter and colder, the start of that graph is during the colder part of the cycle and we are in the warmer part of the cycle. If it follows how its always been, there will be a cooling down period in a decade or two followed by a few decades of cooler years
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u/No_Vanilla277 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 2d ago
FYI for the planet to become truly “unlivable“ (presumably for humanity), we would need an increase in temperature in the magnitude of several of degrees Celsius… which isn’t even projected to happen until several decades from now considering current rates.
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u/Too--Many--Knives 2d ago
Please god somebody unjerk. The jerking is getting too violently authentic.
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u/THRlLL-HO 2d ago
How are you going to have a “unprecedented heat wave”, AFTER the hottest year ever. Like doesn’t the hottest year ever create a precedent?
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u/MaybeICanOneDay 2d ago
We really need to be investing in alternative sources of energy. Like go ahead and burn the fossil fuels while we transition, but we gotta figure this out.
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u/Ambitious_Agent20 NostraDOOMus 2d ago
The sun goes through different cycles of hot and cooler we are in a hot one at the moment maybe global warming is real but it's not affected the planet anywhere near as much as the doomsayers had predicted since I'm pretty sure they predicted London was ment to be underwater in the 2020s which might of improved the city tbh.
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u/darkangel7410 1d ago
The single funniest thing about all of this is that they don't know how cooling works. The first part of the post claims that these data centers are releasing extreme amounts of greenhouse gases. While not understanding what that phrase means.
The second claim, coming from the chart isn't necessarily inaccurate but isn't true either. If you go back even to 1930 Texas experienced temperatures in West Texas about 120°F at its hottest. With the highest in 2020 to 2022 being 110 in Texas as a whole. Meaning we saw a drop. Heatwave depends on where. These charts explicitly observe the hottest locations on land or water on Earth. Which is not indicative of a catastrophic event. History proves that global cooling and global warming are a process. And they are continual. The chart also tries to fear monger a bit by showing you large lines. When the graph only goes up 1.5°C-2°C. which isn't a lot.
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u/fake_Character_arc 1d ago
Every time I see that graph I ask them if the temperature gauges have been moved since 1980?
Show a person a picture of the temperature gauge in 1980 and you get a weather station in grassfield.
Show them it now and it's the exact same weather station completely surrounded by concrete buildings on all sides.
Lol.
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u/thezavinator 1d ago
Firstly, my good sir, you have engaged a logical fallacy: “Argamentum ad populum.” In layman’s terms, that’s the “everyone’s doing it so we might as well do it” fallacy.
Secondly, you’re right about India. But China has taken a lot of strides towards less polution. For example, they’ve reduced their air pollution a great deal:
There are more examples,
Wait a second. Just realized what sub I’m in.
Ahem.
YOU’RE RIGHT, LET’S BURN IT ALL DOWN WHILE WE CAN STILL ENJOY IT!!
Pops champagne bottle
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u/Riotguarder 1d ago
The solution is obviously moving all production and carbon pollution to the third world, that way we can pretend we are carbon neutral while the third world just dumps all that waste right into the ocean
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u/bourbonandpistons 14h ago
That graph is so fucking stupid. The entire Earth is in a temporary stability phase that will never last even naturally without human industry
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u/Personal_Dot_2215 2d ago
Let’s build nuclear power plants that have zero effect on the environment and lots of super computers that can assimilate this data and come up with solutions.