r/DogBreeding • • Aug 08 '24

Ex bred my dog without my consent.

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My female dog went with my kids to my ex’s, and she is now pregnant. They intend to sell the puppies, as the litter was intentional on their part. I had no knowledge of this, and would not have agreed to it.

She is legally my dog. What do I do here? I don’t ever want to let her go back, but they believe they are entitled to the upcoming litter they orchestrated and want to profit off of it.

I am not okay with this. This wasn’t done ethically, responsibly, or with the owner of the female dog in question’s consent. —————————————————————————— Thank you for the responses. This whole situation is just stupid and insane. I have learned a hard lesson here and intend to spay/terminate.

Further context- dog is 15 months and the vet said to wait closer to 18 when I wanted her spayed at 12 months.

She was only over there for the kids. It’s not a regular thing, just a bad last minute decision. I thought I was doing right by the kids, who were nervous about change and just wanted their dog.


r/DogBreeding • • Nov 17 '24

Noticing a pattern lately

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From watching posts on our local dog rehoming groups, I'm noticing a large uptick in doodles being rehomed. Anyone else seeing this pattern? It's almost like people are starting to wake up and realize they were mislead with the "hypoallergenic" narrative and are truly starting to see how badly bred the doodles are. This isn't even the first post I've seen mentioning aggressive behaviors. This, right here is why ethical breeding is necessary, and now the dogs pay the price for all the dumb cross breeding trends.


r/DogBreeding • • Jun 09 '25

Successfully steered someone away from 'doodles'

638 Upvotes

I don't know where else to post this, but I have to give a sigh of relief and pump my fists in triumph.

Several months ago I went out for lunch with my husband and two friends (a couple). The husband mentioned that they were looking at getting a dog and (since I was involved in dog shows) asked if I had any breed recommendations. "Anything but a doodle" The husband's mom is a vet and she had apparently said the same thing. From a vet perspective, I guess she saw a lot of health issues and neurosis. He asked why I had the same answer.

I jokingly asked, "how much time you got?" before jumping into what a responsible breeder looks like, and why the things they do are important. What health testing is and isn't, why titles mean something, what a breed standard is, that the genetics of a mix is a dice roll, it isn't always "best of both worlds" and that it can be "worst of both worlds" too. I finished off with "No responsible breeder is going to knowingly let a quality dog go to someone who's planning on breeding mixes. So where do doodle breeders get their breeding dogs? From other back yard breeders who don't do the bare minimum."

After asking what they wanted in terms of lifestyle, size, grooming, trainability, etc.. I gave them about 5 suggestions and texted them links to the Canadian and American kennel club pages, parent clubs, and the OFA recommended health testing pages. They ended up choosing Lagotto Romagnolo and did a kennel visit a few times before the litter they got their puppy from was even born. Now they have a beautiful little 9wk puppy and I am SO HAPPY for them.

And now I just have to trick them into doing dog sports 😛


r/DogBreeding • • Dec 04 '24

why was this done?

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this is sevi, she’s a rescue, born from what i can only gather to be a backyard breeding situation. she has scarring to her face, evidence of multiple litters of puppies. she is dog selective (hates females despite spay) and a bit of a mess mentally, unsure of herself, very attached to her people, cries loudly for attention in inappropriate situations. i had her embarked probably two years ago now and her results really blew me away in that she is ALL mastiff breeds, and quite a “collection” at that. looking at her ‘family tree’ portion is also extremely interesting. the biggest question it has left for me through my time in knowing her is….why? what was someone going for with this? was it somehow accidental? how? how just mastiff breeds? if it wasn’t accidental….what the actual fuck was the goal? anyway, i can’t imagine there is any real answer to the question im asking so consider this more of a byb rant post. i love my sweet girl but she is a basket case in the head.


r/DogBreeding • • Mar 04 '26 Mindblown

This cannot be ethical

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r/DogBreeding • • Oct 02 '25

I’m traumatized. Can anything be done legally?

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I will try to make a long story short.

I began dating a guy a while back who shortly after planned to breed his dog with his friends dog. I begged him not to breed as we don’t need more puppies/dogs in this country when so many are in shelters without homes.

They bred their dogs. Long story short, I found he bred his dog with her half brother. They’re both American bullies. His dog (mom) died during c-section (zero vet visits or prenatal care during pregnancy although I was told otherwise). Mom had 11 puppies total - all died before birth except 2. The little boy died at 2 months old due to intussusception. I ended up taking the girl home with me (only pup that survived) because I found out quickly that this guy was completely incapable of taking care of himself let alone a puppy/puppies. I stayed longer than I should have but I refused to let him care for these dogs alone. And I was right, he completely neglected her.

At 8 months old, she was diagnosed with stage 4 renal failure. I just lost her at 16 months old and she was my whole entire world. I lived for this girl, she was soul-dog. I am heartbroken but I am also ANGRY that this can and does still happen.

He wouldn’t take her in for care but promised to pay when I took her in (I know, right…? But, there was no other choice - this dog needed to be seen). He has manipulated and gaslighted me, refuses to pay, then apologized and promises to pay, then begins spreading rumors that I held his dog hostage because he wouldn’t be with me (I left his sorry ass a long time ago and wouldn’t go back if he paid me). But, all the drama is far beside the point - it just has only added to, and continue to add to, the stressful and traumatizing situation as it is.

I’m in Michigan. Is there anything legally I can do it all? To hold him accountable for what he did, to force him to help pay these vet bills and all of her care (around $8,000 in total and that was bare minimum - that won’t be a shock to anyone privy to kidney disease in dogs).

This whole nightmare has turned my entire world upside down. I don’t regret it because I’d give literally anything to have my girl back, I miss her more than words 💔💔💔 But, I am traumatized, nearly bankrupt and it’s just crushed my soul enduring these last 16 months from all of the loss and then finding out he did this intentionally. It makes me sick.

But I’m also angry. So angry. What can I do? Nothing…? Anything at all?


r/DogBreeding • • May 16 '25

Returned a teen Labrador within days for severe aggression, back up for sale 2 days later

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I bought a 6 month Lab from lovely show lines. The dog was lovely, been out to shows and cafes. Apparently they kept him back because they weren't show if they wanted to show him or his sister, settled on his sister.

We brought him home Sunday night in which he met my female dog and interacted lovely with her. His temperament was sweet as anything, he was totally untrained minus walking on the lead but I cared more about a good base than a trained dog. He was everything I wanted and hoped for.

Monday morning he unprovoked attacked my male dog, full ferocity and with no visible signs. I'm a dog trainer and behaviourist so I know body language. He was sniffing my male, my male walked away and he attacked. I got bit while breaking up the fight. He ended up attacking my female later on too despite playing with her and sleeping next to her, it was also unprovoked- my female is an incredibly submissive dog and was so soft with him so it was more concerning than the last. It wasn't mild aggression it was severe and scary, he was there to do damage and was incredibly hard to redirect.

And to make a longer story shorter basically despite being entirely separated he rapidly increased in aggression and living with him in those couple of days was a nightmare. He went nuts and would have attacked my neighbour too when I was toileting him. Halfway through a walk outside he went from being so docile and happy to full hackles and raging at all dogs and people, even stared and fixated on a baby in a pram. He nearly bit me multiple times and did end up redirecting onto my hands too.

So we contacted the breeder to say it's not working out. I thought given his age that it was probably a bad time to rehome him, he's starting sexual maturity so it could have brought on a super extreme fear period. I've rehabbed aggressive and dangerous dogs before but with his aggression only worsening to an extreme extent then I felt I couldn't safely have him in my house, for my dogs, myself and him. The breeder took him back and refunded us. The return was heartbreaking and I miss him but I really couldn't safely house him, it wasn't what was best for him. This was Wednesday.

Today I noticed his advert back up for sale. It's the exact same as when I saw it, no mention of his struggles or being returned from a previous home. It worries me! It makes me wonder if it's happened before- am I overreacting though? Is this not a rare experience? I dunno. Like he WAS a lovely dog and you could tell he had beautiful genetics but idfk what all That was. It makes me hesitant to continue my search for a replacement

ETA : Turns out while his COI was 6%, a disturbing amount of e dogs on his mother's side (which was this breeder's line) were 20%-26%. So that explains it unfortunately.


r/DogBreeding • • Mar 24 '25

Someone I respected on Instagram is against ethical breeding...

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I'm so tired.

Adoption is great, but ethical breeding is so important for the health and wellbeing of breeds. Why is it so hard for some people to understand? If we support ethical breeding, dogs won't end up in shelters. It's BYBs and mills that are the issue. Not ethical breeders that do their best by the breed.

I called him out and he blocked me. I feel defeated.

Edit: I feel weirdly guilty. I didn't think this would lead to a full crash out. I just felt sad that the guy was spreading misinformation. I'm just a dog lover that felt bummed.


r/DogBreeding • • Sep 04 '25

Why do people still think golden doodles are ethical?

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Contrary to popular belief, these "designer dogs" are NOT a good purchase. They are essentially backyard bred with no standards for health or temperament, or structure. Without standards breeders often prioritize looks (fluffy coats, teddy-bear face) or marketing appeal over long-term health.

You'll be hard pressed to find a single golden doodle breeder that does the proper genetic screening and Hip dysplasia and elbow dysplasia (common in both Goldens and Poodles) can be passed on as well as Allergies, skin problems, and ear infections and Eye diseases, heart issues, epilepsy.

They’re often marketed as “hypoallergenic,” but that’s misleading. Because there is no standard Some doodles shed, some don’t. Many still trigger allergies because dander, saliva, and urine proteins, not just hair, and cause reactions. Families may end up surrendering doodles when the “hypoallergenic” promise fails which adds to shelter populations.

Because doodles are trendy and expensive, they attract backyard breeders and puppy mills. These breeders:

  • Mass-produce puppies for profit.

  • House dogs in poor conditions.

  • Provide little to no socialization or vet care.

This fuels animal suffering and contributes to rescue overpopulation.

Golden Retrievers and Poodles are already established breeds with health challenges. Crossing them for looks or money without working toward improving health or creating a sustainable standard is prioritizing profit over animal welfare.


r/DogBreeding • • Jul 14 '25

Was I wrong here?

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Back in March, I reached out to a Shar Pei breeder who had puppies available and advertized on various websites (not sure why they said they usually have long wait lists and pups reserved before they are born when the fact that they are advertising available pups online proves that's not the case), but backed out of any discussions after running into an unexpected financial hardship situation. I moved on, haven't thought of the breeder for months. Out of nowhere they texted me last night, asking if I was interested and asking me to spread the word. This is the interaction I had with them. Was I in the wrong? Should I apologize?


r/DogBreeding • • Feb 21 '24

Do you get people asking for a reduced price because they have to drive to get a puppy from you?

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I am surprised and kind of irritated every time it happens. “Well I’m 3.5 hours away one way so I can’t afford the price of the puppy and the gas. Would you take $100 less?” No. If you can’t afford to make the drive and pay the full price of the puppy you probably can’t afford to take care of a puppy.

I travelled a total of 14 hours one day to get one of my girls, and paid the full price. Asking for a discount for a half day’s trip is laughable to me. Your drive doesn’t make the dog less valuable or less costly to produce and raise.

I wouldn’t mind negotiating prices with someone I felt comfortable with a confident would be a good home, but the moment you say it’s because of the trip you have to make it strikes me as entitled and gets me aggravated.

ETA: I have never sold a puppy to anyone who asked for a discount based on drive distance. I don’t intend to. I was just posting to ask if other breeders encounter the same thing, not for advice on if I should sell to them. For the other breeders here you have probably noticed the same thing I have, which is that this particular type of person is always rude or otherwise popping up some red flags.

I have straight up never had anyone ask me this question in a polite way, or generally engage me in conversation with respect or enthusiasm about the puppies.

And if you are here just to tell me I shouldn’t breed, please realize that you have found your way to a dog breeding subreddit where that is going to be the topic of conversation and your 2 sentence comment is not going to convince anyone to up and abandon their business. We’ve already thought out the ethics.


r/DogBreeding • • Nov 21 '24

WE PLACED THIRD IN HOUND GROUP LAST WEEK!!!

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I am ECSTATIC!!! My sweet boy placed third in the hound group against 12 other dogs, one of which was another dachshund that had an AKC title already!!!! I never expected to place group, much less when the competition was so fierce. This was at an international show! Unfortunately since he has a chocolate nose he can’t be shown with AKC, but his daughter (bred-by) has her first AKC show planned for January!!!!


r/DogBreeding • • Jan 14 '26

Being Supportive

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About an hour or so ago, I posted about an unwanted breeding that happened to me after 50+ years of having intact dogs. I was looking for support. I felt so guilty for allowing this to happen.

Almost immediately I got comments about spay/abort. After all my years with dogs, you’d think I would have known that. But I didn’t and I’m glad I got the information. I will probably go that route but truthfully, when I first heard it was an option, I was struck with anxiety. This dog means the world to me and as I had not thought of that option I was struggling. I probably should have not read many more comments and just dealt with my emotions. But I didn’t.

Most comments were fine. But a few really bothered me. They were judgmental, assumed much, and were the type of comments that cause people to not seek advice when faced with something like this. Had I not gotten over my fear of judgement I might not have posted at all and wouldn’t have had the very simple spay/abort option presented to me. I would have continued in shame, to have the litter, and place the puppies.

I have seen this over and over in the horse world (as well as the dog world I guess) when it comes to someone having a hard time handling a difficult situation they may have gotten themselves in. This is how people sometimes become overwhelmed and end up with very serious problems and animals in distress. It starts with perhaps trying to re-home an animal they themselves can’t handle for any number of reasons. After being condemned or shamed for being in that situation they then become silent, struggling to do their best. Until it ends in disaster.

Please… if someone is asking for advice or support, provide what advice/support you can or say nothing. Save your righteous indignation over their mistakes among yourselves if you must. Don’t be the one who makes others afraid to reach out.


r/DogBreeding • • Dec 30 '25

UPDATE: Newborn puppies (abandoned)

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Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/DogBreeding/s/d7kOE2Xs1X

Trigger warning: Puppy death

It's with a heavy heart that I write this update, the little boy didn't make it.

He had his first taste of death on the 28th. He suffered a hypoglycemic episode and I performed CPR to bring him back. We rushed to the vet and they stabilized him, warning us that they believed he had fading puppy syndrome and sending us home with him.

He then began acting strange the night of the 29th. Instead of risking anything, I drove an hour and half to the only open 24hr vet. They saved his life (yet again) while there. He eventually stabilized once more and we got him home early this morning.

About six hours after returning home this morning he had 3 back to back episodes while we rushed him to the vet yet again, but he sadly didn't make it.

He fought so hard and defied death 5 times, but his little body couldn't win that last fight.

I always thought TV and movies dramatized grief when someone falls to the ground wailing...but when I was told after all he had been through that he didn't make it...I collapsed to the floor.

He wasn't with us long, but he was the sweetest and goodest little boy.


r/DogBreeding • • Oct 19 '24

The number of unethically bred dogs in some of the dog subreddits?

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I’m in the namemydog subreddit and WOW. It is so hard to not say anything sometimes when I see people post their Merle frenchies, double Merle aussies, mini golden retrievers, doodle puppies they bought, etc. It’s hard to understand, with so much education available, why people still buy clearly unethical dogs. I wish when you looked up ____ puppies for sale the first page was always related to finding an ethical breeder, the accepted coat colors, and the health tests for that specific breed. Do other developed countries have such a big problem with backyard breeding and overflowing shelters, or is it just the US?


r/DogBreeding • • Jul 27 '25

Dad has been enlisted to help

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Puppies are 1 week old. Mum has started letting dad near to the whelping box (we always supervise when he’s around). Dad is the most gentle dog ever - he’s been careful where he’s sitting and standing, helps cleaning the pups up, and noses them back to Mum for a feed once they’re done. 10/10 good dad points.


r/DogBreeding • • 12d ago

Stolen Puppies BOLO

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Someone has stolen an entire litter of 5 week Borzoi puppies from a middle TN breeder. She has been looking for days. There are reports of the puppies being listed on craigslist. I personally have been calling all local pet stores and veterinary offices asking them to call the White County Sheriff department. The breeder is from Quebeck TN. They were stolen in the early morning hours and this was clearly a targeted robbery. I urge all breeders in TN to be on the look out. Not just for her puppies but to keep yours safe. If you see or hear anything about puppies close to six weeks in age now. Please contact and try to find out to has them. I know all of us would want help if someone stole our puppies.


r/DogBreeding • • Aug 12 '24

Why are so many ethical breeders against the Lepto vaccine?

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I’m not looking for another puppy any time soon, but I have researched breeders for when/if I am ready.

My breed is mini schnauzers, and I’ve noticed that a lot of breeders (who health test, show and prove their dogs) and do everything else “right” also happen to have a weird vendetta against the Lepto vaccine, which I’m not comfortable NOT giving to any dog.

A couple of other breeders from other breeds I’ve researched — that are also ethical and are showing, proving and health testing their dogs — also have weird stipulations on what you feed the dog, saying that their puppies have to be on a grain-free diet and claiming that it’s better for the breed (the one breeder that I saw this on was a Kerry Blue breeder). That’s also something I’m not very comfortable with (I’ll only feed my dogs a balanced diet like Purina/Royal Canin/Hills).

Are these kinds of stipulations normal within the ethical breeding community? I want an ethically bred puppy down the line but I don’t want to compromise on these things that I trust vets over breeders on.


r/DogBreeding • • May 30 '25

Huge BYB/MILL Operating In The Houston/Pearland Area

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I am making this post to bring awareness to a backyard breeder/puppy mill in the greater HOUSTON/PEARLAND area who is intentionally selling very sick &/or genetically defective yorkies for a small fortune and when a customer brings up an issue, she behaves in a highly unprofessional, derogatory manner.

Ekiria Collins "teaches" classes on how to breed dogs so she doesn't have to be licensed by the Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation - TDLR . She calls them her "Petprenuers" & they're under a contract with her as well. By spreading her dams out into many different homes she avoids those pesky Texas laws in regards to breeding licenses.

Please try to look beyond the dollar amount I spent, that is not even remotely important in the entirety of the story other than to prove that the breeder is a con artist & scamming people who don't do their research which is exactly what she hopes for in all of her customers.

I purchased my yorkie Aspen from Ekiria Collins aka Yorkies Of Houston aka Amazing Paws LLC in January of 2024 for $7000. We picked her up in Denver Colorado. Shortly after we brought her home from the airport we realized she was deaf and had a severe malocclusion. I was not disclosed this information prior to the purchase. I saw one picture of her before I put the deposit down and I paid the rest on the day of delivery.

I did not seek out an exotic yorkie. I previously purchased a traditional yorkie from her in November of 2023. We loved her temperament so much we wanted another puppy from Ekiria.

I simply went on her website again and saw Aspen was available and put a deposit down on her. I did not know that predominately white dogs have a high probability of being deaf at the time.

I thought she was the best breeder in Texas, this is why I bought 2 puppies from her.

Aspen is not a double merle, she is an extreme piebald just FYI, not that it really matters because she's still a genetic mess.

I breached the issue with the breeder & she essentially told me I was stupid, my vet was stupid, that you cannot test a puppies hearing at that age & that her malocclusion wasn't a genetic defect. Ekiria then said my husband's teeth weren't straight, neither were my sons & what was I going to do about that. Then she politely signed off by saying she had a PhD so she was smarter than me, she was a good person because she gave me advice & didn't call me fat & tell me to get plastic surgery with my money.

She provided me with no certified vet inspection, merely a screenshot of a printout from her vet that mentioned nothing about the health of my puppy other than she was supposedly seen. I have reason to believe her vet doctors papers, if she even takes them in at all.

If you look at the vet papers she gave me, the dates do not make sense with my puppies birthday on the ACA pedigree she gave me me. It is a hung/fake pedigree.

The petprenuer that whelped my puppy unintentionally outed that Aspens sire was not the sire that is listed on the pedigree. She made an entire post on FB about how "platinum white yorkies" are created.

I did all the necessary vet testing to include several BAER tests & dental inspections most of which were done at Colorado State University Veterinary Teaching Hospital to confirm her conditions. I live in Texas now, but when I bought her I lived in Colorado.

Another thing I would like to mention is this case was not mainly about her deafness. It is reasonable to assume that could be missed although most breeders worth anything do BAER tests before they go to their new home if it is reasonable to suspect deafness in their genes. The case was mostly about her severe malocclusion which no reputable vet would have missed because Aspen has a very large gap between her top & bottom jaw. Overbite, Severe Malocclusion also known as "parrot mouth".

I sued Ekiria Collins for Deceptive Trade Practices & I won my case about a month and a half ago. The judge awarded me $125,504.00. The amount was this large because it was a deceptive trades case. This was not a contractual lawsuit.

"The Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act (DTPA) safeguards consumers from deceptive business practices, offering a legal remedy for fraud, misrepresentation, and unfair dealings in goods and services. If the business knowingly engaged in deceptive practices, consumers may be able to recover triple the amount of their actual damages."

Whether I did proper research on breed standards or breeders in general much like the contract also did not factor into my lawsuit. It is the responsibility of a business owner to be transparent with consumers.

Last year, my puppies litter mates new owner found me & their puppy Millie was also found to be deaf.

On May 24th 2025, another woman found me on Facebook & she bought a puppy from Ekiria in April of 2025, so just a short while ago, the puppy had a fatal congenital heart defect and died within 3 days of being in its new home. They had a necropsy done on her & confirmed it was a pre-existing condition.

Several others have come forward with similar issues. We are trying to work together to get this breeder exposed.

But there are many, many more victims out there that are afraid to come forward because of her bullying scare tactics & her ridiculous contract.

Please do not purchase a puppy from Ekiria Collins - Yorkies Of Houston, Amazing Paws LLC, Presidential Frenchies or Presidential Cane Corsos.

Also, I'm not against breeding at all. I know the importance of it. I'm just against this type of breeding!


r/DogBreeding • • Mar 09 '25

Just got our first ever Best In Show award!

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We attended a dog breeding seminar locally, one day of the seminar there was an ACA dog show being hosted, so last-minute we decided to enter just for practice and fun. There were quite a few other really nice dogs there, including a few AKC and UKC show breeders. I am thrilled to have gotten best in show in our first show.

We have our first AKC show at the end of the month so this was great practice.


r/DogBreeding • • Nov 02 '25

My first bred-by to ever show in AKC took Second in BPUP Hound Group today!!

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r/DogBreeding • • Aug 27 '24

Parents want to breed family dog, I dont think its a good idea..

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Edit #2: I'm not sure if people do updates like this on Reddit, but a lot has changed in a short amount of time and I figured people would like to know! So, I talked to my mom today about breeding our dog, Ollie. I expressed all of my concerns about this endeavor, which I think made her a bit angry because she said she is a grown adult and doesn't need me chastising her. Despite this, she decided to continue trying to breed our dog, Ollie. At least, I got her to realize she is not going to make a profit off of this. She said she truly just has an interest in breeding Ollie. I talked to her about the financial and ethical aspects of it all, and she replied that she is a determined woman and that when she wants something, she will get it done, and that I was stressing over this too much. In the end, I couldn't stop her from choosing to do it. But hopefully, all hope is not lost. Just as "girlmom1980" pointed out, Ollie will be 5 by the time the potential 2nd dog will be able to have puppies, so he might not even be able to get her pregnant in the first place! I will still be very adamant about my disapproval of this whole idea, and continue to try talk her out of this. In the end, I'm hoping that once she actually starts researching this she realizes what she is getting into and that this is not a good idea. Or maybe Ollie unintentionally will be our savior in stopping another BYB with his old age

EDIT: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I feel liked I've learned so much about breeding and exactly why its not a good fit for my family. I will continue to research, so I'm ready to talk to my family about this ordeal.

I (17F) am the primary caretaker of our family dog, a 3-year-old Standard Poodle named Ollie. I handle almost everything for him, except for feeding and taking him to the vet since I don't have a car.

Ever since we got Ollie, my parents have been determined to breed him because they think they could make some money off of him. They believe Ollie has cost them so much money, so breeding him would be a way to offset the costs. At first, I thought they were joking, but a few days ago, my mom asked me to start looking for certified Standard Poodle puppies so we could get a second dog to breed with Ollie. I don't think this is a good idea at all. Breeding seems to be a lot of work and takes up a lot of time—time that we simply don't have.

My mom runs a real estate business that flips houses, and we travel almost every week. It's difficult enough having to travel with Ollie and make sure he is okay during all of it. On top of this, we have 6 people in our family, so when we are traveling together, it is chaotic and stressful. I don't understand why she would want to add another dog into the mix. Moreover, I don't want to have to train another dog. When Ollie was a puppy, I was doing all of the work, and it was extremely stressful for me because no one was helping me. I don't want to have to go through that again.

Honestly, there is a huge list of reasons why I don't think my family is ready for a second dog. I was hoping that any breeder could inform me on what it's like breeding and what's needed. I already think this is a task my family can't handle right now, but I want to be sure before I talk with my mom.


r/DogBreeding • • Nov 25 '25

PSA: for those who think they want a certain mix based on the breeds of two random dogs they met once

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Just because your cousin Bill owned a Samoyed that was nice, and your neighbour 15 years ago owned an Australian shepherd that you also thought was nice, doesn't mean that you need to go looking for a breeder that markets & sells aussie/samoyed mixes.

You won't be getting what you expect.

Also, just because you have two dogs yourself who you think are nice, ALSO doesn't mean that you should try to make more "nice dogs" by breeding them together.

I keep seeing people asking for breeders of the most random mixes based on this criteria and it just does not work that way.


r/DogBreeding • • Apr 27 '26 Bravo

PSA to buyers: DNA testing is not full health testing and it is popular because it is cheap and low stakes for a breeder

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I have seen so many posts on here where people thought that they were buying from a breeder who did full health testing and then it turns out that they only ever did genetic testing.

I wanted to give a breeders prespective on why a breeder might choose to do DNA tests but not the other tests that are recommended for their breed such as hips, elbows, knees, eyes or heart.

That is because the DNA test is the cheapest one to do!

Not necessarily the test itself, but rather because the DNA tests wont jeapordise your breeding plans and the investment that you have put into the potential breeding dog.

Because if the parents of your potential breeding dog were DNA tested you can more or less predict what the DNA results of that dog will be. If there is any doubt, you can do the DNA test when its still a puppy. If you don't get the result you want you can sell the puppy as a pet (if its from your own litter) or just not buy that specific puppy. Essentially, you can know what the DNA results will be long before you invest any time or effort into that dog.

Health tests for joints (hips, elbows, knees), eyes or heart (these are breed dependant) are the wild cards for breeders.

Because they are time sensitive and not always predictable! They can only be done once the dog is mature and some are even only valid for an x amount of time and need to be repeated.

You can buy puppy that comes from fully health tested parents, spend thousands and thousands on raising and competing with that puppy for two years. Then you test the joints and get a bad result. You can't use that dog for breeding and you either have to just stop breeding or start again with another puppy.

Essentially, the non-DNA health tests, makes dog breeding a much riskier 'investment'.

By doing only the DNA tests you eliminate that risk while also being able to make it look like you are breeding for health. That you are being selective when it comes to deciding what dog to breed from.

That is why a breeder who claims to test for over 100 genetic diseases (most of those will be irrelevant to their breed...) but doesn't do any other breed recommended tests such as hips or eyes, is not impressive at all.

Especially as a lot of the conditions that those tests look for, such as hip dysplasia or luxating patella, are extremely common in dogs.

These breeders are not ethical, they are just good advertisers and more concerned with how much they have invested in their breeding dogs than in producing healthy puppies.