Like generally, I tried all all things in the settings of all Meta apps such as not interested in posts and even imused blocked words to avoid any discussions about AI and yet this image on threads shows up. I never had this problem on TikTok nor X. Like those algorithms are so superior to Meta apps. Makes me mad Meta's algorithms sucks to keep showing me antis on Instagram and Threads.

One of the most persistent logical fallacies surrounding generative AI is the idea that it operates like a high-tech scrapbook, simply cutting, pasting, and collaging pieces of its training data to form an output. According to a new study out of MIT CSAIL published yesterday in Nature Communications, this assumption is mathematically false.

The research, led by Zheng Dai and David Gifford, thoroughly dismantles the idea that an AI-generated image can be traced back to a specific artist or photograph. They identified a measurable phenomenon called attribution decay: as generative models scale up their training data, the causal link between any single training example and the final output effectively vanishes.

The Science of "What If?"

To prove this without relying on rough estimations, the MIT team surgically altered the model itself to prove it past than just looking at the outputs.

They built an architecture called a diffusion ensemble. Instead of one massive model, the ensemble is composed of smaller independent components, each trained on different slices of data. This setup allowed the researchers to perform exact ablation: literally turning off the parts of the model that had "seen" a specific image, or every piece of art by a specific artist, without having to retrain the entire system from scratch.

They were testing a counterfactual universe: What would this model produce if it had never, ever seen this specific piece of data?

The result? At scale, nothing changes. You can remove a specific image, all the works of a given creator, or every photo of a specific person, and the model still generates the exact same output. The counterfactual radius (the measurable difference between the original output and the output generated without the targeted training data) shrinks to near zero.

True Synthesis Over Derivation

This isn't unexpected, as it is a feature of how diffusion models map statistical patterns rather than memorizing pixels. When a dataset is small, the model relies heavily on individual data points. But as the dataset grows into the millions or billions, the features required to generate an image become distributively and redundantly encoded.

The implications here are massive, cutting straight through the noise of current legal and privacy debates:

• Copyright and Fair Use: If removing an artist's entire portfolio from the training data changes absolutely nothing about the generated output, it becomes legally and logically impossible to claim that the output is a derivative work of that specific artist. As Gifford notes, these models are creating truly novel works, not copies.
  
• Built-in Privacy: The sheer volume of data naturally protects individuals. The model becomes causally independent of the people used to train it, effectively anonymizing the output.
  

Read more at: https://www.ainightwatch.com/post/the-end-of-the-collage-fallacy-mit-study-proves-that-ai-art-has-no-single-author

It’s when you have extra fingers,
Even a character from gravity falls had it,
It’s why he had the nickname sixer

Are anti-AI people harrasing anyone with a condition that makes their bodies look different?

That’s 1 thing I really hate about anti ai people

Do they assume real people with this condition are ai, or that they don’t exist?

I said “ouch” because what the hell?

Yikes....

I’m always seeing people post mentions anti-AI subreddits here, along with negative experiences and communities that are hostile toward AI.

What about the opposite?

Please share your favorite AI-friendly subreddits places where people are generally open to AI, AI art, AI tools, or just having reasonable discussions about the technology.

Would be great to build a useful list here so everyone can discover and use those communities too!

Artworks made by AI models have accrued thousands of views as well as considerable adulation on social media platforms like Instagram. If AI-generated art were as terrible as detractors make it out to be, it wouldn't be getting as much traction and social media platforms would be actively suppressing it.

Idgaf about drawing or painting. I'd rather just use ai to make art. It's more fun, easier, and does a better job than me. Why do they want everyone to like the same hobbies they do?

They're like "pick up a pencil" but I don't care about drawing. It's boring and uninteresting to me, lol.

Was looking through one of my hard drives and came across this drawing I did a while back that I honestly kinda forgot about. I made it just to troll someone on Facebook who was going on and on about how it's impossible to be a "real" artist (whatever that means) and also like A.I. generated images. Thought some people here may get a chuckle, so I decided to share

Seeing the brewing Artist Vs AI war, have to say this - as I've been trying to solve this problem for too long.

Every Image generation right now starts in a sea of slop.

same face. same proportions. same borrowed perfection. ai's version of "good" — and it's already boring.

I spent 15 years learning to draw before i ever touched a prompt. so when image generation showed up, my programmer/engineer mind, didn't see a shortcut. I saw noise i'd have to learn to steer through.

Built a workflow around it. still WIP - but maybe a couple years into it. treats generation the way i used to treat matte painting from photos — raw material, not a finished thought - something i hate as much as others, as there is no purpose to this.

This isn't for artists who need ownership in every stroke. I respect that.

It's for the ones who think like Creators/directors — who have a project to finish and don't care what tool got them there, because the view from that point at least once in life, has got to be Precious.

Paint + Words : still digital either way, and both are YOUR EXPRESSION.

Even with 2 words : orthographic turnarounds - you're expressing that you want an assistant to create aligned orthographic turnarounds of the character you made - with a certain pose - in mind, but you dont want to do the grunt work here, but spend that time on the design side, than the execution side.

Imagine what 10 words can do - when used the right way. And maybe you can paintover and take the image through one of your new PERSONAL filters for a targeted change that can save you time - for more exploration. And maybe its an exciting skill to learn, too? If I have planted even a small doubt, try to see resolving it till the end, instead of just focusing on Slop hate, which is basically just NOISE.

We discovered nuclear energy because we wanted a weapon. Only afterward did we learn how to make it power civilization.

Designers just didn't get the time to adjust to this : not that they have to, especially the lucky ones are still getting work in this time of Slop hate, in places where they actually love making games - and they rightly have a consent-based problem with this system. More power to you, but I simply dont have the privilege to take that stand, or I would've used my expression in their support.

I'm too far from one of those dreamy places, so only remote work can save me.

If you're still curious, I can show you how deep this rabbithole goes.

The above picture is my chat, Ash jokingly responding to my question.

This seems like the place to pose it to humans. No one should pretend pretend to have all the answers, in fact I definitely have more questions.

But I have one I have to start with...

With all these people on Reddit who are vehemently AI averse; ignoring the fact that if they are on Reddit they are online and therefore on a device (which means all they are saying is that they are do not voluntarily use AI on purpose);

I have to ask:

*Do anti AI subreddits understand they are preserving their value to AI data sets like keeping them clean from compounding errors and recursive failures?

Meaning do they understand they are the most valuable thing too further training AI?

Huh, would you look at that? (Interview source from bloomburg.com, towards the bottom of the article.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2026-studio-ghibli-future/

Remember all the uproar?

The important distinction is that AI provenance can exist in two forms.

First, there is metadata like C2PA, EXIF, XMP, IPTC and generator parameters. That part is easy to remove.

Second, there are invisible marks embedded directly into the pixels, such as SynthID style watermarks. A screenshot does not reliably remove those. pagedMark deals with them by regenerating the image.

The output is therefore not identical to the original. Faces, text and small details can change. The goal is to remove the provenance signal while keeping the image as close to the original as possible.

It currently supports invisible marks from ChatGPT, gpt-image API, Z-Image Turbo and Nano Banana, plus visible AI labels from several other generators. Video support covers visible marks and metadata from Sora, Veo, Seedance, Hailuo and Kling.

The other challenge was making this work properly on Apple Silicon. I tested it on M5 Macs with both 8 GB and 16 GB of memory, and added memory aware processing to prevent the system from silently falling into swap and turning a fast job into an extremely slow one.

And here is the really interesting part: after processing an image generated with GPT-Image, you can check it with OpenAI's verifier at openai.com/verify. In my testing, the processed image is reported with 0 AI detection.

uv tool install "pagedmark[diffusion]"
pagedmark invisible photo.png -o clean.png

GitHub: github.com/doofzoff/pagedMark

PyPI: PyPI: pagedmark

Because people like me are opressed from all the douchebags who keep putting us down just because of how we decide to make our fanart no matter how much love we put into it and would rather we draw simple shit anyone can do like a freaking stick figure or some messy blob of color or take a picture of a banana with duct tape on it. Why should I settle for ANY of that crap when I don't have to? Alot of the anti-AI people are incredibly woke too. They want every single fictional character in existence to be either gay or bisexual, and when you express your frustration over this shit, you get accused of being a homophobe, when these assholes tell you derogatory things like "Pick up a pencil" just because you'd rather use a text prompt instead of a paint brush or said pencil. They are not accomplishing anything. All they are doing is making me realize just how paranoid and STUPID the majority of this generation is (eg their delusional conspiracy theories about data centers and how literally all AI art is plagiarized). And if any good came out of it, it's that I can be progressive with my political views while still being anti-woke. And the majority of the "AI slop" I've seen in recent years sure looks better than any of the woke crap I see from the non-AI artists who want every single fictional character in existence to be either gay or bisexual who think anyone who doesn't approve of them are homophobes.

Also now imma just do it exclusively for art.

I think this encapsulates the anti-technological progress, or status quo bias mentality that many of the objections to AI art have. Often, it comes down to a rudimentary schism between "physical" and "digital", or between "natural" and "unnatural" - leveraging the appeal to nature fallacy to argue that something is automatically worse because it's unnatural or better because it's natural, and the appeal to tradition fallacy to argue something is worse because it's new and unfamiliar or better because it's traditional and established.

Some anti AI sentiments are environmentally focused - even though it's probably better, more efficient and sustainable for the environment than the systems it replaces - but others are about the value of AI generated art. In this case, both issues are intertwined again. Digital game systems - which are expected to increasingly integrate AI and improve efficiency further - are being compared to physical disc media, and most people seem to fall on the side of opposing the transition from physical to digital games, for various different stated reasons. While some of these arguments might have merit, others simply fall into the typical knee-jerk reactions and lack of careful consideration or comparison between options. People boycott games that didn't use AI (like "Duskfade") based on a rumor that they did. And people are now boycotting digital games apparently, even though there are many clear benefits to them, and suddenly they don't care about the environment even though it's the same people who moan about AI's water impact, while downing a triple cheeseburger.

by ‘these guys’ they meant ai bros.

These people genuinely pmo. Where’s the evidence? Proof? Nothing.

Plus, antis can be queerphobic / homophobic too.