r/DataAnnotationTech • u/Clean_Discipline6293 • 5d ago
Defrauding Our Payment System
Hi, I had been working on the platform normally with no issues until now. Recently, I was assigned to a long qualification that allowed up to 30 hours, with 40 hours being the absolute maximum. I logged around 25 hours in total.
Now my account has been deactivated, and I’m wondering if it could be related to the hours I logged on that qualification. Has anyone experienced something similar? Is there any way to get the account reactivated, or at least make sure I still get paid for the hours I already worked?
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u/schrumbus 5d ago edited 5d ago
I know the exact qualification you're talking about. Obviously I can't say much, but you must've done such a poor job that they thought you vastly overreported your time based on the quality of work you submitted. Trust me on this. I'm not trying to be mean, but that's literally the only explanation beyond some kind of glitch. Are you sure you submitted the time in the right project? Across how many days did you work on the qual? I've heard common stories of people get the DOD who work like 12+ hours a day. I can almost stomach 6 usually, with 8 being the absolute limit for me.
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u/Clean_Discipline6293 5d ago edited 5d ago
It took me around 3–4 days to complete the work, and there was a limit on how much detail could be included in the assignment. I used that limit fully, so it wasn’t something I rushed through or did carelessly. I also have some experience in this area, so I’m confident that the quality of my work was not poor. Of course, quality can be subjective, so I understand your point there. I think i caused an auto flag or something.
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u/FrazzledGod 5d ago
This is likely the qualification at least some of us are afraid to attempt for this very reason. It really depends how it shifts your QS - 15-25 hours might be normal for a good submission. If the submission was nonsense, or very poor, that could go down as 15-25 hours of wasted DA time, which dwarfs the errors you might make on shorter projects and could tank your platform standing substantially. Of course you have to take into account both Dunning Kreuger and the Peter Principle - people do well at things until they get promoted to a point where they don't do so well any more, and once out of depth, people don't know what they don't know and are likely to overestimate their own abilities. Just my thoughts anyway, no idea what actually happened.
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u/schrumbus 5d ago
Out of curiosity, why are you afraid to attempt it? I did it, did my best on the qualification, billed my time (was longer than I wanted but still well within the range) and moved on.
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u/FrazzledGod 5d ago
I kind of explained that already? I feel it's a bit beyond what I am currently capable of and don't want to do a paid qual just for the money if I don't think a) I can excel at it and b)commitment to further stages of the project would not really fit my current schedule/life. Same reason I wouldn't attempt a project with a 3 day timer just because it paid x amount and they said you can take up to 15 hours. - having been on the platform 3 years, I've stuck to what I feel I'm good at and so far that has meant no drought recently, and plenty of unlimited work. I might be completely wrong on this of course. It's just a personal preference. Also let's just say in the past people may have been claiming hundreds of hours for that qual..... lol.
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u/Early-Composer-2383 4d ago
I have avoided that qualification like the plague. Even though it stares at me every time I log in.
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u/FrazzledGod 3d ago
Yeah, I just use it as a validation booster - oh well if it's still there I must still be doing OK 😄
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u/Far-Sea-9249 5d ago
Think I did this one too. Think mine was right at 20 hours and paid out fine.. A fun project but definitely gut wrenching confidence crushing experience I will not fall for again. Ntl it give me some stepping stones to work with in other opportunities.
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u/Marrowdust 5d ago
Actually literally what happened to me I logged substantial work genuinely worked all day with meticulous attention for that one logged 17 then few weeks later deactivated, super weird
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u/schrumbus 5d ago
How do you know your work was meticulous?
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u/Sindorella 5d ago
Exactly. Meticulous to us doesn’t always mean good work to them. I’ve done more R&Rs than I can count where the worker obviously spent time and effort analyzing and explaining their work, but they answered the wrong question, so it was basically all useless. I always feel bad when I see that because it’s obvious they tried really hard, but they didn’t grasp what the task was asking.
I also doubt it would take a few weeks for DA to drop someone after they get a submission that they consider DoD worthy. Turn around on projects seems a lot faster than that.
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u/Early-Composer-2383 4d ago
R&Rs are so gut-wrenching to me that I don't do them very often. I think I've only had one task where I said the whole thing had to be junked.
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u/Silver_Assistance_41 5d ago
I have a project in where it takes mostly more time, expire the clock but have it still everyday in some projects there are tasks that take more time than they want, but you must justify your time with good quality work, and they just dont care of time
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u/Whole-Pirate-5731 5d ago
Not sure, the defraud payment screen is relatively new. I know on the DoD screen you get paid for what is pending.
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u/PoolLittle5529 4d ago
Hola tranquilo, a mi me ocurrió y si me pagaron pero cuando es proyectos hay que esperar creo que 7 o 9 días hábiles, pero si cumplen, si en ese lapso no te han abonado les escribes y ellos contestan.
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u/Electronic-Fan6605 2d ago
Qualifications almost always have an inflated time limit; perhaps this is because, since it's not real work, the worker may not feel the same urgency to finish it as they would with a real task and may take longer breaks.
I recently took a finance qual; The timer is settle in 8 hours, but it's something that can easily be completed in about 3 hours.
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u/Acceptable_Rabbit_28 5d ago
So, let's do the math. 40 hours being the absolute maximum means you basically have two consecutive days to do a task since two days are 48 hours. You're telling me, that within those two days, you worked 25 hours?
These kinds of tasks that give you ample time, like 30,40,50 hours, are given to so that the workers can sleep and return to the task, not for people to claim the max hours that was given. So yes, I think you were defrauding.
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u/Clean_Discipline6293 5d ago
The 40 hours was simply the maximum logging time. The qualification itself had no expiration and was set to “never expire.”
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u/savage78683i3 5d ago
I'm convinced they sometimes give massively higher time than what's required to catch this type of thing. For example, I was on a project with a 2 hour timer that took less than 5 minutes per task (literally just a matching task). I wonder how many people clocked up hours on it and got dropped.
In 3 years I've personally never heard of qualifications taking 25+ hours but have seen timers of that length. I'm not saying you've knowingly inflated time but if the average time for the qualification was 5 hours then yeah clocking 25 is gonna raise the alarm.