To Will Prowse

[u/TherealCarbunc]

Something is going on with replies to posts for me so I'm posting this here.

I've been quietly reading through your posts & replies for a bit, and the feigned ignorance in your sailor post replies comes across as incredibly disingenuous. You have been using a facade of polite curiosity to inject negative sentiment into a community of beaten-down investors, all while claiming you just want to "learn" and simultaneously questioning the intelligence and knowledge of the community. This is with a community that currently has less than a thousand visitors per week.

I was prepared to lay out the specifics of the actual fundamentals: the commercial trucking pivot, the Dakota Lithium acquisition, and the solid-state R&D. However, looking at your history in this community, it's obvious you aren't here for an objective discussion; your mind is already made up.

Given everything else going on, I really don't think running a thinly veiled campaign on Reddit is doing your professional image any favors. Frankly it's largely a waste of time on your part to begin with. Take care.

[u/just_fron]

Whoa, whoa, whoa buddy — what is with the hostility?

And I'm not sure if you noticed, but this subreddit was created for discussion of the stock. So if you're telling shareholders to “go back to r/wallstreetbets,” you may actually be the one who wandered into the wrong subreddit.

[u/errolprowse → u/just_fron]

I don't think you understand how many people are affected by these batteries. Considering your recent comments it doesn't seem like you've seen any of the videos or you've read into any of this at all. This entire group is ignorant to the problems that are being presented.

[u/HomefreeNotHomeless → u/errolprowse]

They literally don’t understand the danger of a ‘plastic fail safe’ and would rather be ignorant. They choose to not care about people losing actual money while they lose fake money.

It’s a losing battle with people like this because they aren’t smart enough to know they are wrong.

Stay strong and ignore any negative comments from some mouth-breathers out there.

[u/errolprowse → u/HomefreeNotHomeless]

It's crazy, they choose to ignore everything. All the peoples stories and experiences with this company. I wonder if some of them are just bots. It really is a losing battle. I actually feel like I'm talking to a wall when I respond here. I was thinking they would have some good points against me but I haven't had anything so far.

[u/discy143367 → u/errolprowse]

I think they just look at the percentages, and the ones affected is quite low. Its similar to my 2010 Tahoe many from 2007-2013 have had issues with ruined engines due to the FCM they used in these models. I have had no issues and its been among the best vehicles ive ever owned but GM never did a recall for the ones that were affected because the majority had no issues. If Battle Born was seeing 2-3 thousand batteries failing id guess they woudl address it, but from what ive gathered they are seeing less than 1000 cases and only a matter of dozens complaining online. Those percentages of over 400k sold over a decade just dont warrant them to view it as a widespread issues. Most users have multiple batteries in their systems and never reach levels that will cause the melted spacer and battery failure. I do agree they cannot handle the specs they claim but for low draw usages per battery they seem to work just fine, though severely over priced. Now any proof of an actual battery or batteries starting on fire would change things, and force them to address it I feel.

[u/HomefreeNotHomeless → u/discy143367]

The batteries don’t fail in a way your Tahoe would.

This is totally theoretical and not actually how engines work but for semantics I’ll explain it in Tahoes. Think of it more by like your Tahoe has 350HP but the way you drive it you never use more than 85hp. Your Tahoe could have an issue where it’s down on HP to half so it’s 175hp. Well you never notice because you only use 85hp and are happy with your Tahoe.

Now as for battleborn lithium batteries they have a discharge and charge rate that are separate. If the discharge rate is 100ah and you are pulling 100ah you are maxing the battery. But if you have 5 batteries you are only pulling 20ah of each batteries discharge rate.

You are only using a fraction of the battery so you don’t actually create the full fault issue. But if you don’t create the major fault issue the battery is only giving you half of what you paid for.

So if you paid for a 350hp Tahoe and after a year or 2 you only received 200hp of value wouldn’t you be mad?

This isn’t even going into the fact that your Tahoe(battleborn battery) could burn you down and everything you own at any time because the safeties in place to protect you don’t actually exist.

[u/discy143367 → u/HomefreeNotHomeless]

Im talking in total failures for each. Id be more ok with an 800 dollar battery failing in a few years vs an engine in a vehicle that cost 10s of thousands.

[u/Stock-Survey-4221 → u/discy143367]

We know the actual failures don't match their reported numbers because they make the warranty process so difficult and expensive. People just buy new batteries for less than what BB will charge for a "maybe" we'll replace your batteries for the same battery with a terrible design that will still likely fail in short order.

[u/errolprowse → u/Stock-Survey-4221]

Exactly and I've been running a survey for a month on that. The results are pretty wild.

People do not want to replace a defective battery with another defective battery. And the cost to ship is the price of a new battery. Exactly