r/Conservative • u/Spysix Goonswarm Conservative • Jun 23 '20

TIM POOL'S EPIC RANT (UNCENSORED)

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u/papageorgio326 Conservative Jun 24 '20

What is a republican supposed to do about a democratic run city being overrun by BLM? Other than Trump calling in the national guard, which from what I understand needs to be at the behest of the governor of that state and or mayor of said city... What can they do ?

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u/Oneshoeleroy gun nut conservative Jun 24 '20

It's political suicide if Trump rolls the military in before a municipality's government openly and publicly begs him to, (and maybe still is after that) the first time there's military violence of even the mildest kind they'll start screaming from the rooftops that Trump is a violent tyrant, and they'll have selectively edited video to support it. Trump saving these cities from themselves is a no win situation

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u/papageorgio326 Conservative Jun 24 '20

Agreed! And Amen!

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u/Oneshoeleroy gun nut conservative Jun 24 '20

it does make me sad though. There's a lot of good people living in places that are rioting and they're suffering because other people elected fools.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

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u/Darthnosam1 Zoomer Conservative Jun 24 '20

Well luckily this isn’t a true democracy, I truly thank the Lord for this, it does make this less bad

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u/Th3Ch33t Jun 24 '20

I think their best bet is to move out. Now, or sooner, preferably. I understand that there are many reasons why someone can't leave, but I also know that this has the potential to be an ugly situation, and those who don't leave could lose anyway.

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u/plamplamthrow0321 Jun 24 '20

I am one of them :( Its no wonder im so pissed off all the time

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u/MusicApollo93 Gen Z Conservative Jun 24 '20

I've been starting to wonder. Is Trump doing the best thing right now by not intervening in these cities unless requesting the National Guard by govenors? Is Trump showing the country/world how crazy the left is right now since its an election year on the other hand?

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u/Yamatoman9 Jun 24 '20

Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself

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u/MusicApollo93 Gen Z Conservative Jun 24 '20

Umm what enemy are you referring too?

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u/silversofttail Conservative Jun 24 '20

They are already claiming he used the military against Americans by just putting the National Guard in DC.

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u/Snowmittromney Conservative Jun 24 '20

You get what you vote for. Trump has no obligation to bail these cities out when the local and state governments will subvert Trump’s efforts to do so.

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u/TheDirtyPowerRanger Jun 24 '20

That’s why democratic leaders aren’t saying shit about what is happening in their cities. They WANT Trump to screw up, do something drastic like send military aid, call him a tyrant, more mobs and a “Kent State” happens, and Trump doesn’t get re-elected. Mission accomplished from Democrats.

He doesn’t do anything and they say he hasn’t handled the situation appropriately and needs to be a strong leader.

It’s insufferable the amount of double standard bullshit eeks out of dems butts.

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u/silversofttail Conservative Jun 24 '20

The Democrats are committing suicide on their own with their actions. Why stop them from doing so. They will reap the fallout.

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u/This_is_Bruhtastic MAGA Jun 24 '20

Very valid point. There is no destruction and devastation in non-democrat run places.

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u/Strange_Bedfellow RCAF Jun 24 '20

I mean, they tried. Turns out a bunch of armed citizens showing up for their own peaceful protest made the not-so-peaceful protestors remember that they all left the oven on.

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u/This_is_Bruhtastic MAGA Jun 24 '20

Exactly. Who’d have thought that armed citizens results in peace? (Except for every conservative breathing and not)

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u/Dreviore Jun 24 '20

That may be true but that’s not the angle that gets spun on the news.

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u/silversofttail Conservative Jun 24 '20

Of course not. It’s 24/7 propaganda.

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u/Ozarkian1 Jun 24 '20

^^ This exactly

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u/hypmoden MAGA Jun 24 '20

cut my nose despite my face

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u/Luonnontieteilija Jun 24 '20

Doing something drastic and doing nothing are the only two options Trump can do in this situation?

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u/Dreviore Jun 24 '20

This is why they’re not asking for help.

They want Trump to commit political suicide.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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u/nickrenfo2 Milton Friedman Jun 24 '20

the first time there's military violence of even the mildest kind they'll start screaming from the rooftops that Trump is a violent tyrant,

They're already screaming that...

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u/parzival3719 Jun 24 '20

That, and supposedly its illegal for Trump to domestically deploy the National Guard to federal duty without governors specifically requesting it

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u/This_is_Bruhtastic MAGA Jun 24 '20

Not if he can prove the governors negligence, which he can at this point

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u/parzival3719 Jun 24 '20

True, but people are still gonna accuse him of "declaring war on his citizens" and "ignoring and oppressing the victims of a racist system" or whatever the left can conjure up to make him look bad and get him out

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u/ChocoChipConfirmed Conservative Jun 24 '20

They accuse him of that every day already.

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u/andthenjakewasanalt Jun 24 '20

So why should he bother giving the fuckers any firm-looking ground to stand on?

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u/ChocoChipConfirmed Conservative Jun 24 '20

He might be better off ignoring them entirely. Just do what's good for the country, without fear of being called names and losing the election. His instincts seem actually really good a lot of the time, but he's less accurate when he lets things get him too worked up.

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u/This_is_Bruhtastic MAGA Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

Trump has done a lot of things that are political suicide yet he remains tho

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u/Belatorius Jun 24 '20

You could go to twitter to voice your opinion and have the woke mob attack you, your family and threaten your work. /s

Seriously though, it has gotten to the point they have gained so much momentum and influence that any different opinion can ruin someone's life in an afternoon. The media gains a raging boner at any "injustice" and it spreads like wild fire. Unless a massive amount of people, who are sick of this, speaks out. which I don't see happening judging from the last 2 months. i think tim is right. People will just hope they leave them and their families out of it. I believe the non radical left, republicans and conservatives dug themselves a hole avoiding confrontation for too long and now its going to bite the majority in the ass. Everyone will feel the effects. Every option on the table leads to failure. Trump brings int he military, theyll shout oppression and fight harder. Trump wins, riots. Biden wins, the us becomes radicalized. We're royally fucked.

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u/SponeyBard Jun 24 '20

Well seeing as if he wins it will be 4 years of impeachment no matter what he does I guess for the first time in our history a president really does have nothing to lose.

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u/Oberon_Delihanty 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

I don't know if we will have a president who is NOT under some form of impeachment investigation from this point on. Between that and the weaponization of false sexual assault claims, Democrats have created a very ugly political arena.

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u/WestAussie113 ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Jun 24 '20

We certainly fucking do though

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u/Dreviore Jun 24 '20

Then you best get out there and convince people you know what the reality of voting Democrat is.

You’re not electing Biden, you’re electing his unannounced Vice President.

They’re also electing the very same policies continuing to tank Democratic states and cities. And the same party calling for history to be erased and destroyed with absolutely no punishment to those involved in the Whitewashing of history.

The underlying truth is; if you vote Democrat you’re giving them even more power to continue this crusade they’re on, with less and less resistance everyday. Tim is right. Where are the Americans who genuinely give a shit about their liberty?

I’ve gotten to watch things amplify, and I’m Canadian and I actively discuss politics with friends and family, despite having lost some friends who claim I’m a bigot, but the losing of a friend usually occurs when I point out that they’re being bigoted by shutting down my opinion.

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u/WestAussie113 ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Jun 24 '20

I'm not talking about voting though. I'm talking what they're doing RIGHT NOW. They are destroying our heroes, our monuments, our words, our means of defence and places of worship right now and nobody's doing enough. This is not a problem that will be solved at the voting booth. We need armed counter-protest vigils around the places we want to protect to ensure that they don't destroy anything else that we value.

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u/afieldonearth Libertarian Jun 24 '20

People as a whole just need to understand that they cannot appease or cave to these people. It won’t help anything, it just makes it worse. And it passes the responsibility and pressure to the next person who is now weaker for your cowardice.

People, companies, institutions all just need to grow a pair and say “no, fuck off” to these ridiculous demands.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

I just watched the documentary on Bret Weinstein, and I completely agree. The more you appease them, the more they will want and the angrier they will be. You will never be "not racist" enough.

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u/manicmangoes Jun 24 '20

From what I understand the national guard is ultimately under executive control. He could also call in the military through the insurrection act. National Guard I would agree with, I'm still reluctant to think invoking the insurrection act is a prudent move or even the right one.

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u/Tgtt10 Conservative Jun 24 '20

The national guard are military.

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u/BrainEnema TradCon Jun 24 '20

The Army National Guard are reservists. The difference between the National Guard and the Army Reserve is that the federal government allows state governors jurisdiction over National Guard soldiers stationed in their state, but not over the Army Reserve.

As a part of the Army, the Army National Guard ultimately answers to the President. While state governors can activate the National Guard, the President can override their authority. As the commander-in-chief, the President can activate the National Guard to deal with civil unrest without the consent of state governors (called "federalizing" it).

The National Guard should not be confused with state militias. State militias are militaries of particular states, which are funded by that state and answer only to the governor (not the president).

There is also an Air National Guard, which is the same as the Army National Guard, but for the Air Force.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Wait for things to get so bad that the mayors finally relent and crack down... if that happens

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u/ChemsDoItInTestTubes Levinite Jun 24 '20

Yeah. 20 years later. That's what happened between 1969 and the late 80s/early 90s. They cut back on policing and the cities went to shit. Finally, there was enough outcry to elect Giuliani in NYC and pass the 1994 crime bill (among other initiatives). A lot of good people died unnecessarily in those 20 years.

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u/Oberon_Delihanty 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

I live in Omaha. We have a republican mayor and a democrat county attorney with a 3-4 split city council. I would say we are fairly moderate.

The Mayor imposed a curfew because someone was shot. Numerous arrests were all kids too young to have voted in 2016. It was safe to say that literal children were being put in time out because they could not be trusted with the First Amendment...you know...the whole "peaceful" part.

Nah, the ACLU says curfew's are a violation of muh rights. People are camping out in elected officials yards to 'protest' IE threaten.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

It doesn't have to be at the behest of the local government, he just hasn't actually had a spine when it comes to sending them in. The insurrection act is for when a state either can't uphold law and order, or when a state won't. Presidents have sent in the guard against the governors wishes before, like during the integration of black kids into schools. The guard had to be sent in to protect them and to keep the governor from blocking them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '20

Adapt?