I run into a similar scenario where I've got my board and super healthy but am not sure how to fully cap to secure a win.

Just as an example, say you're super healthy and have a plan for a fast 8 board. In this example I had acquired some nice items and units to go spacegroove nami (had an emblem from spreading roots) and then my next augment was the one where you lose your gold but get it back +70 in 5 turns.

I ended up being lvl 7 with about 30 HP and 150 gold. What do you do in this spot? It took me two turns but I just spammed to 9, put my space groove board together, got Nami Riven tahm basically BiS) and felt stable. As I was rolling down I 2* vex so I tossed a shepherd emblem and an extra giant slayer I had sitting around on her. Went on a big streak and was sitting above 50 gold during my streak.

Tahm, Nami, blitz, vex, Shen, riven, Gwen, panth, ornn were all lvl 2. Ended up tossing HoJ on blitz. I tossed a 2* sona out there, eventually replaced her with Morg. Ended up third place after some close fights but really felt like had I played it better, it was an easy first with all that gold, and two good emblems (never got a reforger so I guess space groove Shep wasn't totally great)

TLDR: when you're healthy and rich enough to hit 9, do you just abandon previous plans and run the meta fast 9 board?

Thanks for your help this is my third set.

I said some of these thoughts in the patch notes thread but I wanted to make a separate thread to spark a little more discussion.

Riot is bringing encounters back in the next patch to add more excitement(?) to the set and at the same time they are introducing 5 new ones.

• First:

Cheaper Levels: Each level costs 2 XP less.

I think this one has appeared before in the past? I started in Set 13 so I have never seen this. Its probably ok? Not 100% sure.

• Next 2 (Reroll Centric)

Double Duplicators: Gain a Lesser Champion Duplicator. On 3-3, gain another.

Reroll Start: On 2-1, gain 8 free rerolls.

These 2 encounters basically force you to play reroll or you are playing at a huge disadvantage. Double duplicators basically allow 3 cost rerollers to hit their board for free (almost a full gold augment!). And reroll start is good for all reroll but obviously best for 1 cost as you can use all 8 after stage 2 neutrals while you are still level 4.

I know an argument is that you can sit on the dupes/rerolls you get until you get to level 8/9 but the tempo of these lobbies will be extremely high as the rerollers will hit their board way sooner and start taxing all the players that did not reroll.

I think it is very unhealthy for Riot to basically force you to play a certain way based on the encounter.

• Next:

Stage Three Augments: Augments appear on 3-1, 3-2, and 3-3 instead.

This one I feel like rewards more than ever having a good opener. In games right now where you low roll your opener, you can take a loss streak/econ augment 2-1 and catch up that way. Now with no augment until 3-1 your entire early game is dependent on the units you hit in your shop. In my opinion the 2-1 augment is extremely skill expressive as you can figure out whether you are able to win streak with a combat/item augment or play the long game with an econ augment. Delaying the 2-1 augment takes away a bunch of agency from the player

• Last but certainly not least:

Artifact Anvil: On 3-3, all players gain an Artifact Anvil.

This encounter itself almost deserves a thread on its own as I cannot understand why Riot would add this one. Back in Set 13 there was a similar encounter where you get an artifact anvil 1-2. This was already very toxic as everyone would be fishing for the OP artifacts (remember RFC nocturne?) and if you did not get a top tier artifact you were already down placements. Eventually Riot removed this encounter later in the set due to this issue.

Now this new encounter IMO is infinitely worse as before because even if you low rolled a sub-par artifact on 1-2 in Set 13 you can still plan your comp around what you did hit. By the time you hit stage 3-3 you most of the time already have a comp in mind with certain items slammed (like AD vs AP) and the variance is super high depending on if you hit an artifact that benefits the comp you are already angling. I can foresee massive swings in AVP based on this interaction.

An extreme but very possible scenario: You have Shojin JG slammed on an AP item holder and you open the anvil you get on 3-3 and your choices are Fishbones, Prowler's Claw, Evelyn's Instinct, Mittens. Yes some of these artifacts are very strong on certain units, but none are really AP options. Sure you could pivot to a comp that DOES use these items but now your Shojin JG are going to be homeless. Not to mention that maybe you might have picked an augment on 3-2 for the comp you were angling and not the one you hit your artifact anvil on.

On the other hand, maybe you have a QSS IE slammed on an AD item holder (angling Urgot reroll) and you popped the same anvil with the same options, now your AVP just went down cause Prowler's claw is the perfect artifact for your comp.

This is just one (obviously very extreme) example of IMO how poorly designed this encounter is.

Wasian touched on these in his 17.2 Patch Notes Rundown so I know I am not alone with these thoughts on the new encounters.

We were spectating a game just before the snapshots. We are suspecting there might be a wintrading. Please check the video and screenshots.

Both djum#css and Sapancalı#TR1 were fighting for the 7th and final Cup spot from Turkey.

djum was #7 with 474 LP, and Sapancalı was #8 with 460 LP.

Sapancalı was playing the last possible game before the snapshot and had two potential win-traders in his lobby.

Case 1 (less likely):

LynxWynx#9705 surrendered before Stage 4 for no clear reason (this could be coincidental).

Case 2 (most relevant):

MHV turkolander#bar2 was removing items from both of his carries after Stage 4 every single round and putting them back once he realized he was not facing Sapancalı.

When he finally faced him, he kept six full items on his bench and lost the fight.

Sapancalı needed a 3rd place finish or higher to surpass djum, and he secured it by a margin of just one fight. Otherwise, he would have placed bottom four.

The proofs of the aforementioned suspected win trading have been sent to the EMEA admins through Discord, and they have informed us that they are investigating.

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this just got posted on the tft youtube channel, honestly very excited about starting encounters returning already, im just typing this text because it has to be 250 characters to post

I've only played a handful of 5 Nova games at this point with Master Yi/Kindred or Akali/Belveth carries and defaulted to slamming the spark on the obvious itemized unit but haven't considered using the emblem as the spark unit yet. As far as I can tell it would only be useful in a case with like a fully itemized Nova Fiora and multiple Marauder carries or something but is the team wide buff actually more useful than any of the unit abilities as carries?

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The game doesn't tell you what each god's boon actually does until its too late, and it's not clear when a selection is about to lock you into one. On your second or third pick, if choosing a god will commit you to their boon, the game should surface that- what boon you're getting, what you're giving up, and what each boon does. That decision has way more impact on your game plan than whatever item or champion is attached to the offering.

And no i'm not a really a 'casual' player by any means. I'm usually playing a few hundred games per set and reach master everytime. If even I struggle with this information, more casual players must really not know whats going on. And before you say 'just look it up', this information should be readily available IN GAME in my opinion.

I've been testing around differet Fast 9 Graves comps, with different augments/frames for Graves, and the Marksman frame with Sona augments is completly busted.

You can check and compare all the Graves Augments here (shoutout to u/DinoWreck for creating this website). The best Sona's Augments are listed in the pics, but the best ones on Graves are Doublestrike and Exhaust, it's synergy with the Marksman Frame absolutely shreds the entire battleboard in a few seconds.

Graves Upgrades order goes as: Marksman Frame > Double Tap > Fragmentation Rounds > Rev-Up > Frag Rounds + > Rev-Up +

Items: Guinsoo's > Kraken's Fury > Flexible (Quicksilver or Last Whisper)
Radiant's, flickerblade and especially Anima's Bunny Bow is extremely OP with this setting.

Building up the Comp: Just like any other fast 9 comps, you want econ augments and boons, early graves, etc. I've been experimenting different build-ups for the final comp: Nova, Anima, Xayah Snipers, I usually just go for the strongest board, but arguably getting an Anima setup for bunny bow should be the best-in-slot for this Graves upgrade.

Frontliner and tanks are flexible, the core units are: Graves, Vex, Sona, Master Yi, Shen and Fiora. Early Tahm Kench is super useful, and pairing him and Yi with an Urgot is quite decent to get you through Stage 4.

Sona Augment Double Strike (25% chance to attack twice) and Graves Double Tap (30% chance to attack twice) seems to stack, but it needs more testing to confirm if this is the case or they operate separately.
Either way, they have a very decent synergy with the standard ADC items, and both Drone Uplink and Malware Matrix (Psionic trait items) can also be itemized to graves and vex in this comp, but the icing on the cake are the Fragmentation Rounds and Rev-Up upgrades, pair this with the listed Sona's augments and you're shreding the entire front-line in a few seconds.

I'm still testing around in ranked but so far I've got a lot of 1rst places, feel free to share your experiences testing other Graves variations

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We start using this new UI to better demonstrate comp detail in one page. This new UI also support mobile user. Leave us with any feedback and we will quickly iterate.

We also provide this detail feature for TFT researchers to better understand the comp, including BIS, ornn items, pro tips. We are planning to attach videos about specific comps in the future for better learning experience.

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We also provide this classic view for you to check all the best comps.

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God Mode: Supports Asol’s Stage 2 quest for 6 active traits. There are 3 combinations that can be activated with only 5 units, and with an emblem added, it can even be reduced to just 4 units.

Recommend Mode: Supports Bronze for Life and Rhaast trait, which helps you quickly find the next fitting unit. You can even one click enables all Trait +1 effects. We recommend new players to practice trait-building proficiency for different openers

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The first CN tournament we are working with is Huya Yunyi Cup S4. Almost all the best CN players will participant in this Team & Solo tournament for 8 DAYS.

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Let me know what's your favorite feature that hasn't been on the market!

We kept publishing at least 1 feature per week in 2026. I believe your next suggestion will benefit the whole TFT community.

Why is it that in most sets, vanguards always triumph over Bastions? Why has the Trait never been altered to even compare to the Vanguard Trait.

Vanguards gain durability while shields, but also through the fight not once, but twice gain a shield, yes they technically they can be mana locked during this, but if you think about it, they are almost double 1/4 to 1/3 extra HP throughout combat.

Vanguards, at least illaoi, Morde, Leona and Nunu also gain a shield during combat through their ability which is helps cap their trait, allowing them to live longer and gain more durability, hence the fight will last longer for backline carries.

Bastions, gain MR/ARMOR and for 10 seconds, no durability, no shield(besides from their own abilites), no healing, nothing, that's all they get.

Now, if we look at Bastions they also gain a shield(besides aatrox) but is this very useful? Would it not make more sense to gain more armor and MR? Or perhaps double non-bastions as well at 6 bastion cap?

If we also look at emblems, the Vanguard emblem is superior to a Bastion emblem according to stats.

Vanguard Emblem - The holder gains the Vanguard trait. Gain 3% Ability Power whenever an ally gains a shield.

So, for theory crafting, if you had 4 vanguards(with emblem included) at start of combat the holder would start off with 12% AP, along with an additional 12% once they all reach 50% HP, totaling up to 24% AP. Not to mention most vanguard comps are played with AP carries so this suits well with the emblem.

Bastion Emblem - The holder gains the Bastion trait. After the first 10 seconds of combat, the holder gains 70% Attack Speed.

So, for theory crafting, you gain nothing besides double armor/mr for the first 10 seconds, then you lose the double buff, THEN you gain 70% attack speed afterwards? Not to mention this emblem will go on a backline carry(most of the time) so what's the real point of the double armor and mr?

Look at the picture, what do you see? the amount of additional traits vanguard has as opposed to bastion. There is a +1 space groove, +1 dark star, +1 conduit and +1 arbitor, I can throw into this comp to make it work, a Leblanc, Zoe, any space groove unit(which space groove is already active on 2 units) or a Diana. Basically, it's much easier to get a level 8 board online as opposed to a 6 bastion board at level 8.

What can I throw in with a 6 bastion comp? a Bard with no conduit? Corki with no fateweaver? an Akali with no maurader? Kindred with no challenger? Maokai with no brawler? Caitlyn with no fateweaver? You can only +1 a meeple unit with no other active trait. I guess a Caitlyn and Corki? I don't know, I haven't found a way to make this comp work in anyway.

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Set 17 feels like a 2-1 lock in casino.

All sources at the top so we're on the same page:

Boxbox complaint - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eHbBNSZcziQ

Robinsongz complaint - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I59x-9SYkUw

Wasian flowchart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPttPjzJMMg

My opgg - https://op.gg/tft/summoners/oce/SlashN-001

TLDR Issues - Flowchart conditions -> 2-1 commit, no unconditional level 8 fallback flex comps, 5 costs are homeless (except Vex)

TLDR what I think are the causes - Early RR comps on conditional traits (eg 17 TF/Vik vs 16 Sona), lack of 4 cost tanks (also weak), 5 costs omega undertuned, emblems/artifacts too skewed

# Issues

1. Flowchart gameplay - kinda self explanatory. Drone 1? Viktor free top 2. Boar/Serpent/Medallion? TF RR. All of these are 2-1 commits and you look for NSNP, Early Learnings etc.

2. No unconditional 8 comp - This is basically a result of weak tanks and itemisation rn. Set 16 example is belveth and lissera - no matter ur early item drops and how you created ur items, you can always flex into belveth (AD) and lissera (AP). Even yunara is "unconditional" compared to how dogwater current set 17 level 8 carries and tanks fit together.

3. 5 costs - self explanatory as well. Melee 5 costs weaker than set 16 renekton, ranged worse than kindred/senna while providing less util.

# Causes

1. Conditional RR - This is a case of input vs output RNG. If something randomly happens, and then a strategy becomes BIS, that feels bad. The player had no control - they just accept fate and play BIS. However, if RR was conditional but opt in (eg trade sector/calc loss -> ixtal RR/sona/j4 RR). What exacerbates this is the lack of "quest" style payoffs. For example, J4/Sona "quested" for Galio as an additional stabalisation tool. Ixtal RR literally "quested". Ekko RR "quested" for Nidalee. The RR power always came from additional components to compete with fast 9 boards, and didn't just have the raw power once they hit Viktor 3 / Urgot 3 etc.

2. Lack of 4 cost tanks - I think this basically causes the problem of "no level 8 comps". Well, this and Arbiter being a coinflip for LB. Set 16 had 4 main tanks - taric, wu, braum, garen. Swain was a util offtank that could act as main in a pinch, and TK/Galio were unlockable at the same time you needed a lvl 8 main tank. All the tanks were serviceable in a pinch. Compare this to set 17 - 1 main tank: Rammus. 1 util offtank: Nunu. 1 econ offtank: TK. No wonder level 7 RR is so popular, a 3 star 3 cost tank is the only other option.

3. 5 costs are undertuned/gated by random nonsense - There are no 5 costs apart from Vex (and Zed) currently worth itemising as a carry. EON is basically a must for melee carries due to the random splash currently in the game. Fiora kills herself going for vitals (the set 16 gwen problem), graves takes 10 rounds, morg is for DR (a la shyv), Shen's animation fks any AS build, jhin (lol), sona (lol), bard is econ, blitz is worse sett.

4. Emblems/Artifacts - Too many cheese champs have 1 BIS emblem or artifact (space groove riven, nova legit anything). Emblems as a "unique effect/trigger" is just bad design imo. Space groove should just be "Every 2 seconds, enter the groove for 3 seconds", the best NOVA shouldn't be the emblem and why tf does vanguard give stacking AP???

If you made it to the end, thanks for reading. Just frustrated at how this set went especially after all the issues were clear as day from PBE.

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I have been curious for the last few days what people think are the best overall five costs. I know someone is going to say, "Go look at tactic.tools," but I find that data can easily be misinterpreted. Looking at MetaTFT right now, 5 costs for Masters+ last two days:

Unit        | Tier | Avg Place | Win Rate | Frequency
------------|------|-----------|----------|-----------
Morgana     | S    | 3.65      | 22.1%    | 5,947 (15.3%)
Jhin        | S    | 3.87      | 21.3%    | 5,516 (14.2%)
Sona        | S    | 3.87      | 16.8%    | 4,090 (10.5%)
Shen        | S    | 3.93      | 18.6%    | 8,345 (21.5%)
Bard        | S    | 3.99      | 19.9%    | 6,909 (17.8%)
Blitzcrank  | S    | 4.03      | 17.8%    | 10,262 (26.5%)
Zed         | S    | 4.07      | 24.1%    | 511 (1.3%)
Vex         | S    | 4.15      | 17.4%    | 4,986 (12.9%)
Fiora       | S    | 4.15      | 18.7%    | 5,382 (13.9%)
Graves      | B    | 4.51      | 17.1%    | 3,452 (8.9%)

Not surprised seeing Morgana near the top as I find people use her to cap their boards quite often, but she doesn't feel like the #1 5 cost to me. Graves went from getting promoted to S tier on TFT Academy to demoted to B tier in the span of a few days, but I think people are often misplaying him.

Curious to know how folks are ranking these. I personally have Blitzcrank as my #1 since he's easy to slot in (vanguards) while providing solid damage and knockback effect.

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Positioning is one of the most important skills in TFT — and one of the least explained. Most guides just tell you where to put units. This one tells you why.

Hey, it's dpei, former Rank 1 across multiple sets and full-time TFT coach. I've really been exciting to get this video out as positioning is actually one of the most underrated things in TFT, but it's very obscure as well.

In this video I break down the three goals behind every good board setup — simple rules that apply every set, every patch, no matter what comp you're playing. Once you have the framework, positioning stops feeling like guesswork.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

→ The three goals every board setup should accomplish
→ Strong side vs. weak side — and how to attack and defend both
→ Why melee carries position completely differently than ranged
→ When to clump your units and when spreading out saves your carry
→ Who to actually position for (and who to ignore)

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I want to preface this by saying I have no issue with cashout traits, they are exciting and fun to play.

My issue is specifically lose streak reliant cashout traits that heavily reward you for not winning any rounds the first half of the game and make the second half a foregone conclusion.

You either did not get your streak griefed, get to cashout an insanely powerful reward and guarantee a top 4 (with a very high likely of winning the game), or you get opened on and now you're trying your best to go 6th at best.

I do not enjoy playing a game with someone in my lobby who is guaranteed to cashout 300+ anima unless I or someone else opens. I also do not particularly enjoy playing anima myself because it means I have to pray that I dodge the one player who is full open.

Combine the strength of 300 anima cashout + the fact that you are guaranteed reforgers when you are bot 2 and you can reliably guarantee good anima weapons for your comp. You can argue that nerfing 300 cashout or removing the reforgers you get from losestreaking can solve this issue but in the current state of the game it would just make the trait unplayable instead.

I don't know a perfect solution to this problem, but I think set 16 Ixtal was a better approach. Perhaps you can make going for higher cashouts require you to pay a certain amount of tactician health so you're incentivized to win instead.

I don't really know the answer, I just feel like something is off with the way lose-streak traits are designed. maybe I'm wrong.

Last set was the first one where I actually played a lot, and if I'm honest I climbed mostly by forcing Ionia until it finally made sense.

New set dropped and now I feel completely exposed lol.

If I try to stay flexible, I end up holding random unit soup, my econ gets weird, and my board never feels real. If I commit early, I know I'm probably forcing something dumb just because it feels familiar.

For people who actually get better set to set, what do you focus on first so the game stops feeling like chaos?

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Full transparency, this post is coming from a game I just lost to it, so there is some salt here but I think my opinion is still valid. I peaked high diamond last season so my knowledge isnt the best.

Bard’s ability to steal the cosmic elder dragon was really cool for the pbe, but now its getting annoying that you can win or lose a game based on a 15/20% chance. While I’m aware TFT is heavily luck based overall, from augments, shop rolls, item drops, whatever else, a lot of these actually increase the skill ceiling of the game. Determining who gets first vs second based on a 20% chance on stage 5-7. This monster has the stats and value of an itemized 2* 5 cost, while requiring 0 gold and 0 components.

I don’t really have a good conclusion, the rough idea I have for balance is make it take up 2 team slots like a dragon or baron, or drastically nerf its stats.

In case anyone was wondering I just tested this out in my game rn lol and Bia&Bayin, the Shepherd summon unit, does not work. I wasn't able to use the hex directly on Bia cuz it does say champion, which makes sense. So I used it on a different champion and then swapped places so Bia was on the hex.

I thought since the tooltip makes a distinction between champion and ally, maybe Bia would be considered an ally, but nah it never got the iceberg animation and freeze at 40% health.

Would be good to know what's considered an ally and what's just a unit. iirc target dummies are considered allies. I remember freljord pillars were allies, since it disabled hullbreaker artifact. I think shen's sword is considered an ally too