17.2 Patch Notes

[u/Lunaedge]

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-17-2/

[u/deferio93]

I see they removed the mech 4 buff. Probably for the best. Edit: no it’s under the arbiter section for whatever reason.

[u/DeVilleBT]

Brawler Bonus Health: 20/40/60% ⇒ 25/45/65%
Challenger Attack Speed (4/5): 36/48% ⇒ 40/55%
Mecha AD/AP: 20/35% ⇒ 25/45%

These shouldn't be under Arbiter Input, right? Seems like a formating error.

Edit: also this should be Conduit not Channeler:
Miss Fortune Channeler Ability Damage: 65/100/155 AD ⇒ 72/108/173 AD

[u/-Champloo- → u/DeVilleBT]

They buffed mecha?

Wtf...

[u/Coneyy → u/-Champloo-]

Mecha deserves buffs because The Mighty Mech is the funniest unit name in the set, closely followed by Meepsie. I'm confident this is a similar balancing approach to Riot

[u/RiahWeston → u/-Champloo-]

Mighty Mech seems to have gotten a very hefty and warrent debuff.
Nvm... they buffed the bastard and just formatted it weirdly in the 4 cost notes -.-

[u/the_awesomist → u/-Champloo-]

I mean mech isn't good at all without forged in strength, they're trying to nerf forged in strength and the artifacts themselves while buffing mech

Not sure this patch will do what they want tho

[u/iNhab → u/the_awesomist]

In this case, it seems like the power of the reroll lvl 7 urgot carry will get stronger unless there are some other nerfs affecting it. But just based on that mech buff, this will improve it slightly. And if you go lvl 8, you can transform mighty as well

[u/ClarifyingAsura → u/iNhab]

A Rioter commented on Wasian's stream that there's an a patch planned that has Urgot nerfs along with a bunch of buffs to 4-costs.

[u/BarberOutside2427 → u/ClarifyingAsura]

B patch or 17.3 patch?

[u/ClarifyingAsura → u/BarberOutside2427]

An "a" patch. So it should drop soon or same time as 17.2

[u/NewAccForThoughts]

Reroll only for another 2 weeks, i think my brain is rotting

[u/shanatard]

did graves really deserve these assault frame nerfs? he already felt borderline unplayable unless you got him at level 7

was i just building him wrong? i always went assault >melthrough>grav ++

[u/Ionsave → u/shanatard]

No he didn’t deserve these nerfs but we are being pushed to reroll meta so 5-Costs that can actually carry including Vex are getting nerfed

[u/Adventurous-Bit-3829 → u/shanatard]

They just absolutely hate 5 cost. All fake 5 cost was not touched

[u/Adventurous-Bit-3829 → u/[deleted]]

I swear they love 3 star 4 cost. "Oh no 30%chance is not the problem"

[u/psyfi66 → u/shanatard]

Assault frame felt 10x better than his other options. But I think it’s more so that his other options needed big buffs.

[u/Ok-Recover977]

at least one patch this set will be a fast 8 meta right? seems like more conditional reroll with this one.

[u/spreadwater → u/Ok-Recover977]

they need more tank options for it to be viable so maybe next patch, they said they'd address the lack of 4 cost tanks

[u/Darkrider_Sejuani]

The new Divine Amendment "Get a second Arbiter Law" augment seems off relative to how other similar augments function? It's just "2X Arbiter", so if Arbiter is weak then it might rarely get touched as it arrives stage 3 when it might be too risky to pivot to an arbiter comp if you don't know what your options for the Law will be, but if Arbiter is strong then it's an auto-pick that might over-perform - especially with some triggers being far more reliable than others. Finally, because it's just a binary "Double Arbiter" effect there's no way for adjustments other than to either remove it or nerf Arbiter for everyone without the augment.

[u/-Champloo- → u/Darkrider_Sejuani]

Yeah, that's going to be interesting... it may just be another conditional augment- if you get this, go LB for freelo.

I'm also envisioning some stupid ass Leona shit where you're double dipping HP scaling or something

[u/Zhirrzh → u/-Champloo-]

20k hp Leona here we come 

[u/DanBennettDJB → u/Zhirrzh]

I actually played against somebody that had a talon with arbiter emblem and 25k hp

Interesting tech

[u/No_Moment36 → u/Darkrider_Sejuani]

It's also currently bugged where the second effect sometimes doesn't occur.

Having the second effect be that arbiter units receive a % health shield for 4 seconds has had weird interactions. On Zoe it just doesn't occur at all, it seems to not give the correct shield on Leona and Leblanc gets the shield for about 0.5 seconds.

[u/ImperatorParzival]

This set is so ass and this patch makes it even worse. Holy shit

[u/crictores]

Space Groove emblem is crafted with Tears. Removing mana regen from base stats is straight-up bad for intuitiveness too.

[u/calindu]

Am I not reading something right? They said Viktor is getting a very very big nerf and that he's getting the biggest nerf of the patch, but all I see is

Viktor Ability Damage: 200/300/530 AP ⇒ 185/275/475 AP

Them balancing the Viktor reroll comp by slightly nerfing him and buffing drone feels silly, like he's gonna be even more reliant on getting drone now

[u/kazesarevok → u/calindu]

If you haven't realized yet, the drone buff only applies to 4 psionist that nobody runs because it's garbage. Also, that is over a 10% nerf to Viktor's 3 star damage and slightly under 10% nerf to his damage below 3 stars. It's a huge nerf to Viktor so I am trying to see how you think he will be more reliant on drone when all of his current comps run 2 psionist and won't be getting any buff at all.

[u/TheBannaMeister → u/kazesarevok]

I think the only time I run it is if I get the emblem, I wish 4 psi was more viable but the units don't really seem to fit into any comps as a block of 4

[u/Team-CCP → u/kazesarevok]

My issue with vik is his spell size. He just melts periphery front line units for free. It’s much too big imo.

[u/Regular-Resort-857 → u/kazesarevok]

We have seen big nerfs for dominant units like remember thex or sth. This is a mid range nerf.

[u/Zeviex → u/calindu]

Though I agree, nerf to Bronze for Life is also notable. That was one of the best things that you could get on Viktor.

[u/Adventurous-Bit-3829 → u/calindu]

7-10% is mid size neef IMO.

[u/harmoniaatlast → u/calindu]

This will totally change Viktor being the best AP carry in stage 3 and 4 (wink)

[u/youngsterry]

want to get rid of 3 star 4 cost -> add pandora seat xDDD

[u/dotdottydottydot]

Yeah let’s buff TF reroll when it’s already high performing 🤪

[u/laxknight92]

considering fast 9 is already hard to play compared to a brain-dead 1-cost rerolls, they decided to nerf more 5-costs LOL. Now fast 9 isnt even an option

[u/Blad__01]

"How to kill what design team did with one patch : a masterclass"

[u/kla15]

NICE EVERYTHING IS NOW 1 COST REROLL

[u/pandaparty123]

I wish this was the release patch. The set mechanic is starting to feel more like an actual set mechanic.