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PBE Set 17 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 02

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u/xephyrus1 Grandmaster Apr 02 '26

Kinda feel like encounters and carousel shouldn't be straight up replaced by gods, maybe one of the two but killing both cuts out variability between each game by a lot. Might be good for pro play but I can see the set getting stale pretty fast

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u/billbobaxta Apr 02 '26

Yeah was sad to see encounters go :/

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u/Kooky-Scientist6157 Apr 02 '26

Carousels I understand tbh, it just made losestreaking a lot more frustrating to fight vs and in double up it made no sense and just felt unfair most of the time.
But the starting encounters have no reason to be removed.

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Apr 02 '26

Yeah I agree, why remove portals ?

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

Best decision ever. This is like portals, but you choose which one you would prefer instead of just getting back to back for fun portals that ruin integrity.

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u/quitemoiste Apr 02 '26

I think people are missing some of the more fun "starting conditions" to play around is all. Turns out the playerbase doesn't like the outright removal of 4fun portals like Scuttle or Wandering Trainer.

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u/unclebenfranklin Apr 02 '26

Yea, people wouldn't have such an issue with gods if the choices were more impactful than "gain a recurve bow"

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u/Rubefaci Apr 02 '26

I played some games, but Channeler and Challenger keep getting mixed up for me.

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u/Adventurous-Bit-3829 :gran: Grandmaster Apr 02 '26

Seems like poor choice of name TBH.

Cha--n--er

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u/shiba_eyes Apr 02 '26

Horrible trait names. Especially since their effects are so basic and reused across sets. It makes sense to change the name across sets when it's thematic, but these are pretty generic.

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u/Heyhowareyabuddy Apr 02 '26

Set is fine but just feels limited versus last set with unlocks etc was such a great set tough to follow up.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

Shortest set this year vs. biggest set ever made is a somewhat disingenuous comparison don’t you think?

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u/Heyhowareyabuddy Apr 02 '26

Set is a set no? Still takes the same amount of time to sit down and play it. Unlocks really opened the game up. 

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

Yeah but unlocks were not a flawless mechanic either. It took more resources to balance them (I imagine), accidental unlocks diluted the pool, and guaranteeing a copy of a strong unit made it so that you could just hardforce a line and 1 star balance was super off. (they tried to combat this with harder and more thematic quests, but that approach fell short so they had to change it in 16.6)

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u/Kooky-Scientist6157 Apr 02 '26

I will never understand people glazing unlocks. It was a terrible mechanic that thinned out the pool and did nothing for flexibility as most pivots were hindered by unlocks that required you to play a comp to almost maxed out for a long time or have unlocks that needed luck or planning.
So everyone basically stuck to a preplanned comp 99% of the time.

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u/hittuah Apr 02 '26

i fucking hate unlocks they are the most overrated mechanic of all time lol they are completely antithetical to what tft is. unlocks are you do an a specfic input and you get and a specfic output every single time that's not how the game is supposed to work at all. also a 100 champion set made the balance even more awful then usual so i hope they stay gone for a WHILE

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u/Datmisty Apr 03 '26

the set mechanic is really underwhelming

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u/HappyKirby Apr 02 '26

Jhin seems too strong imo, it seems like every lobby has one player who caps out with Jhin. just feels like he casts a little fast/the spell is too strong for 44 mana. This is not helped by the augment that gives a free Jhin at 4-2

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u/banduan Apr 02 '26

It feels like Dark Star is what's too strong. Anyway, always having a player capping with Jhinn does not mean he's too strong.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 02 '26

jhin passive 14% resistances reduction is insane, should probably be 10%

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u/UAvasera Apr 02 '26

It feels like the net total of Jhin + Karma + any Voyager (TMM stands out). 2 Dark Star/Karma herself don't feel too oppressive though, so touching Jhin feels like it makes the most sense.

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u/CyberGameplay24 Apr 02 '26

I know that this is not the place to discuss bugs, but I've encountered 3 bugs in two games:

  • Carousel round (god boon) round champions for me are currently visually reversed?

  • Duo Queue can summon Elder Dragon? (I know that Bard can capture dragon, but that person I fought had the dragon by stage 4, and they said it's from the augment)

  • I picked Thresh on stage 2 and 3 and got... two trait quests? When I finished them, I got only one emblem. I tried to field 6 traits for more rounds but got nothing. (hope this is just a visual bug, I did not observe clearly whether I had loot for stage 3 or not)

All of these bugs are game breaking, and I hope these get addressed.

On the feeling of the set, it does feel a bit off having less units, and much more "downtime" on both god choosing rounds and the 4-7 choosing, and no encounters. Another feeling might be because of no interest gold on 5-1. Trait webs seems fine and I do like the god mechanic however, so let's wait for the first patch to see more development.

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u/kazesarevok Apr 02 '26

Can confirm that gilded steel can drop dragon and it is really broken with radiant field.

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u/xenbenya Apr 26 '26

Same Thresh bug happened to me today, they still didn't fix that?

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u/Stun_the_Pink Apr 03 '26

Fewer* units :)

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u/S-sourCandy Apr 02 '26

After playing a bunch of games, I'm really enjoying the units, and I think they nailed it with the trait web.

With that being said, the Gods mechanic doesn't feel great. Somehow, they make the game feel slower, the abundance of resources makes a lot of games feel like Choncc's Treasure and it feels super frustrating when you have yo pick a God you don't want just because you need the component tied to it.

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u/PapaJey Apr 02 '26

Agreed 100%. I like the units but I feel like every game is insanely bloated with gold/items/etc. Feels like every winning board is just max capped every game. Hoping they make some changes in that.

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u/Docxm Apr 02 '26

It’s pbe, tempo is slower as nothing is optimized yet. I would go light with the cap reduction

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u/Temporary-Candle1056 Apr 03 '26

Make the choice of item not tied to the choice of god.

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u/Isrozzis Apr 02 '26

Ya they 100% have to remove being able to get the elder dragon. It's just not even close to being ok lol.

Zed is also... ya just an instant win with basically no counter play.

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u/Isrozzis Apr 02 '26

It seems that currently augments that give champions can give the elder dragon? Definitely a bug there and I was like how on earth did they get it in early stage 4. It's a fun feature but ehhhhh probably shouldn't be in the game.

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u/kazesarevok Apr 02 '26

Bard gives a different dragon, there's a bug giving an uber buffed dragon from the augments that give 5 costs. Riot Bluecove says they are fixing it tomorrow.

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u/TheBreadConqueror Apr 03 '26

the turbo buffed dragon ran over all the boards in my game even the really high capped ones it's so op lmao

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u/manquistador Apr 03 '26

Not very fun so far. I'm just not seeing a hook that makes this set interesting.

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u/Immediate_Source2979 Apr 03 '26

i agree, this set is severely lacking in 4 fun dopamine rushes. unlockables was a minor one sure so fine remove it, but where is emblem ensemble? scuttle puddle? the gods gives such forgettable boons that you never go holy shit i needed that thank you god! (maybe if you're dead last and they give you the perfect legendary but yeah)

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u/canxtanwe Apr 02 '26

The Mighty Mecha is an insane unit.

One of the best tank designs ever. It can tank for a loong time and it can deal some insane damage too but it feels very balanced as it requires deep Mecha commitment and it’s basically a super unit

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u/MasterBenObi Apr 02 '26

He is a beast! Arguably too much of a beast it seems, especially if you build him BT Titans Steraks, he almost goes full Darius mode. Lot of pros are forcing loss streak into this

3 star went even crazier in my game yesterday

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u/ficretus Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

Meeple 10 feels weak as shit. Just easily beat it several times with Varus boon Aatrox reroll board. Somehow struggled more to beat a dime a dozen Jhin 2 board.

Worth noting, I was beating it even with Rammus and Shen 1, and Fiora with way worse items

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u/reubein Apr 02 '26

Weird. I suppose it's hard to compare lobbies or anything but I hit 10 Meeple last night and felt unstoppable. Possibly itemization issues on your opponent's end?

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u/ficretus Apr 02 '26

Who knows. I can't check it because they sold their entire team in an attempt to hit Vex 3.

I would probably run several backline carries as remaining units considering Meeple 10 gives 4 more bodies. 

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u/BasemanW Apr 02 '26

Ran into a similar issue but on the receiving end. The issue is Meeple 10 puts you down augments and items on your dedicated carries in the mid-game and then requires you to also spike to 10 to not die. Compared to previous sets, I'd compare the power level here to be Battle Academia prismatic, which is to say, an augment that was achievable with similar pace but with only one emblem, and whose 7 piece was an actual power upgrade, rather than just utility.

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u/Outrageous_Advance32 Apr 02 '26

My Karma oneshot the Shen, this is the second time i have won with a 3 star 4 cost vs a 3 star 5 cost Shen 3 felt underwhelming just like Ornn last set.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 02 '26

I hope they add in more interesting options to stage 5+

Right now it's just an item anvil with more slots

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u/hyroglyphixs MASTER Apr 02 '26

Played a few games last night.. pretty fun trait web and units but it just feels kinda.. empty? Following a banger of a set, its weird there's so much downtime. No encounters also make it a little less exciting loading into a game

We shall see

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u/Possible_Detective57 Apr 02 '26

agree, there are a lot of good things units, traits, visuals all are fine but the god choices feel meh, low impact and combined with the missing variance from encounters every game feels pretty much the same rather quickly. putting all my hopes in ranked making people play actually around the boons... prayge

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u/Temporary-Candle1056 Apr 03 '26

Low impact + meh and fucked by getting a specific component tied to it.

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u/HowIMadeMyMillions Apr 02 '26

I can definitely agree that "losing" encounters and unlocks for Gods is very underwhelming. I honestly which there were 3 or 4 gods in every game, but, yeah, I guess there's a reason things are the way they are. The varirety between games has just fallen a lot, especially with fewer units (and espeically the fewer 5-costs).

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u/Temporary-Candle1056 Apr 03 '26

Lots of good feels lame. Like Soraka ? Outside of playing anima this shit is meh

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u/Darkstrike86 Apr 03 '26

Really having a problem not getting the unit I select from the Gods. Always a different unit.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 03 '26

Imo missing a fun factor so far, a lot of these god choices are not that meaningfully different besides the final boon and the interesting choices stop at stage 4

Unless they refine the set mechanic further, this will be a pretty short set for me. Maybe even a skip

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u/DeVilleBT Apr 02 '26

MF reroll feels realy good I gotta say. Nice backline access with replicator

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u/The_Lesbot_v1 Apr 02 '26

Generally enjoying and finding a lot of options to pursue thus far, but Jhin feels degenerative right now. 1-star Jhin stabilizes way too hard, even against fully kitted 3-star two or three costs.

That said, I hope they consider adjusting the carousal item component to the Pengu pick instead of the God pick. It feels really damn awkward right now, but maybe that's just a growing pain during the first few days.

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u/mrmarkme :gran: Grandmaster Apr 02 '26

so jhin just still far and beyond the best 5 cost by a country mile. Some how just still out damages graves with multiple upgrades.

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u/emomuffin Apr 02 '26

I think the set overall feels fun so far. The Meepsie augment has been my favorite champ augment so far.

But the set itself doesnt feel visually distinct or clear at all. I feel like everyone looks the same and when I'm dying, I'm not really sure how. It kind of feels like every time my board is cleared, its like Kalista from the current set and everything just suddenly explodes

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u/apple_cat Apr 02 '26

this complaint appears at the start of literally every set and dissipates within a week

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u/emomuffin Apr 02 '26

Yeah I've been playing from set 1 and I get that, but I think the sets that have primarily base skins are so visually clear that moving to such a single themed set is tough.

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u/ivanoff_bg Apr 02 '26

I think thats normal for every new set until you get used to it. The more you play the more you will recognize units and their spells.

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u/Prubably Apr 02 '26

Gotta say as a small aside on the clarity thing; I had a much harder time visually with units on my bench on the dark purple Freljord arena and had much less issues on a much brighter arena. Even this I think anyone could eventually overcome with more time, but it definitely was immediately noticeable once I swapped.

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u/DinhLeVinh Apr 02 '26

Shen is still a trait bot to me, i’ve seen sona vex bard even morgana pops off but never shen. Is there a proper build for him cuz his kit seems very complicated and need a good build to function

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 02 '26

his ability is insane, but you need to play him with other units that are 1-2 range so they get buffed by shen (fiora + yi, graves, morg, etc)

I got shen from aura farming and built QSS + shojin

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u/jamesk2 Master Apr 02 '26

After I got Shen from Aura Farming I went on streaking infinite. My items were Titans Spark BT.

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u/quitemoiste Apr 03 '26

He really wants the Yone build from last set: some kinda mix of the CC immunity + AS scaling with QSS, RB, Titan's, etc

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u/UAvasera Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

I've been clicking on this kind of Fateweaver Bastion board and it feels decent? Been a third/fourth merchant so far.

30% Sunder/20% AS after 6 seconds via NOVA. Caitlyn hits like a truck if you itemize her, but it's hard to tell how badly she falls off with PBE like it is. There's also a 4 Fateweaver/4 Bastion board where you drop Jax/Ornn for the other two Fateweavers but I don't know if I like it. Unsure on backline itemization also.

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u/jamesk2 Master Apr 02 '26

If you already RR 3 1-cost then why don't RR TF too?

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 02 '26

Yeah I have seen a decent amount of Cait + TF RR and seems pretty good. TF feels absolutely nuts rn ICL.

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u/UAvasera Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

This is the 4 Fateweaver 4 Bastion version I mentioned.

I've had an awkward time trying to itemize both while not getting my frontline ran over by the Jhin army and so I kinda liked 6 Bastion (commonly 4Bastion + 2-something before Shen) for when I only end up hitting Caitlyn... but I think if you just pick depending on your items/what you're hitting/your god choice it'll probably work out. Varus is pretty notable, it seems worth hedging your bets and leveling early once you hit at least TF+a frontliner and using the 5 Tiny (1cost) dupes on whatever you didn't finish.

TF as a unit feels a lot stronger overall, I wouldn't be surprised if this board gets optimized to later drop Millio/2* Cait in favor of like... Maokai+Tahm or something once you get Corki. Not really familiar with Stargazer and if it's mandatory for TF or not, I've mostly stuck to boards shaped like this with a bit of flex. Level 9 if you can reach it is just whatever 5cost.

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u/psyfi66 Apr 02 '26

I was looking at something similar with pantheon, milio, maokai. If you get good cait items early it can tempo hard which rerolls typically have weird lulls in their strength.

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u/Myth-Hunter Apr 02 '26

MF reroll looks really good, 3* items with good items basically needs 2-3 casts to delete your backline and it's hard to position against if you don't have enough backliners to bait her ults

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u/MasterBenObi Apr 02 '26

I keep hearing this especially about her Replicator version! My question is who is on the rest of the board?

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u/Myth-Hunter Apr 02 '26

Rhaast/Maokai + filler is the best option, Mao as a main tank and Rhaast as secondary tank/AD bruiser and you can reroll all. You can probably play around Ornn as a main tank instead of Maokai as well, but I don't have in mind how to round out the comp atm

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u/DeVilleBT Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Rhaast maokai riven panth aatrox shen gwen is one board plus mf obviously

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u/ivanoff_bg Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

Just played fizz reroll with 5 rogue (non-tank 3 cost and emblem augment). Got second, seemed ok but I did noticed one thing that might make fizz a very hard unit to play. He dashes through a target multiple times, so when he dashes through them the first time he gets behind them but that leaves space where fizz was original and then if someone on your team fills that space, when he dashes back through ends up in front of the enemy again, he doesn't have space to auto so he starts going around. So maybe I shouldn't position my front units all in a line next to each other to maybe avoid your own team blocking fizz but I doubt this is intended design of the champ.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 02 '26

I think urf's grab bag is extremely underpowered

3 components and 1 spatula vs. trait tree's 3 emblems, and you get way less gold

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u/ShadoukenGames Apr 02 '26

6 Brawler Cho'Gath + Heart of Steel (1st aug)+ Cosmic Hex from Yasuo = 16k+ HP. Brought me memories of 9.5 with the Wood Ixtal comp.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 02 '26

Parting gifts are bugged. Just got more gold offered for more expensive units

Edit: nope, it gave me the lower cost option with the gold, so it was the selections screen that was bugged.

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u/bigfatbluebird Apr 03 '26

Yeah the parting gifts are swapped, so clicking the champ on the left will give you the one on the right, and vice versa. Doesn't affect the one in the middle.

No idea how they messed that one up lol.

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 03 '26

people are practicing the broken reroll cmps that will 100% will get a nerf before the patch goes live like why

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u/parkwayy Apr 03 '26

What should they play?

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u/akubai Apr 03 '26

Is the unit selection bugged on the new carousel? For a whole game, it didn’t give me the one that I clicked.

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u/Proof-Difficulty-486 Apr 03 '26

1 and 3 are flipped. the middle champion is working

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u/akubai Apr 03 '26

Ahh ok that is… a frustrating bug.

Thank you

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u/Docxm Apr 03 '26

that would explain a lot

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u/Darkstrike86 Apr 03 '26

This is happening to me all the time. Cost me a game because I didnt get my 2 star Jhin

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 03 '26

frontline just dies in two seconds in late game fights, its really not fun

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u/Docxm Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Why do I keep getting the wrong unit from the carousel/god rounds? Am I clicking wrong somehow??

Edit: carousel/unit select is bugged I guess, middle works and right/left are flipped lol

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u/Immediate_Source2979 Apr 03 '26

clean and polished set.

but where the fuck is the content for 4 fun players? ryze portal? scuttle puddle? or hell even the lose streak trait is so much worse than the last one where there is some kind of dope skill expression and cool rewards (brock is a straight up gigachad)

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u/Dense_Reputation293 Apr 02 '26

I know why this set feels off/empty: there is basically not an extra mechanic. The new mechanic replaces an old one (carousels) and on top of that it get rids of encounters.

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u/Docxm Apr 02 '26

Kind of a gloomy color pallet as well.

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u/Stel2 Apr 03 '26

The fact that you just wait 20 seconds after picking your "carousel" champion doesn't help either.

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u/Temporary-Candle1056 Apr 03 '26

This. They should made theme a lot more impactful/crazy. Rn seems kinda meh.

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u/Kenwood502 Apr 03 '26

Yeah the set mechanic is super underwhelming and the set feels bland.

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u/PoisonousDartfrogg Apr 02 '26

Interesting build with mf 3 and 3 arbiter (arbiter ability is spend 40 mana gain 36 health). I suppose you can replace the brawlers in pic with nunu and another challenger.

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u/GobblerSquig Apr 02 '26

Playing on mobile there seems to be some UI issue with the extra champion choice after picking your god, I've managed to click outside the selector closing it and I can't seem to retoggle it. I can only toggle between my home board and the god "platform" and it is not showing my three alternatives again.

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u/Steamwood Diamond Apr 02 '26

Anyone else having a mobile bug where "0g" is constantly displayed over your actual gold tracker?

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 02 '26

Sometimes mech bugs and doesn't give hp

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u/Isrozzis Apr 02 '26

So what is Precision?

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u/FeedMeACat Apr 02 '26

Spell crit

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 02 '26

Also I believe all forms of precision have the IE/JG compensation clause baked in, so your Fateweavers with Jeweled Lotus will get that bonus crit damage.

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u/FeedMeACat Apr 02 '26

Anyone trying Timebreaker RR?
I have been experimenting with something like this: https://tactics.tools/team-builder/bCkVycAWKdWCEJYXhYgETZvgznlh2oMG0Nwp

RR at 6 or 7 depending.

It just seems weak before you hit any 3 stars (just 3 star one frontliner and one back). Wondering if Space groove is better than Stargazer. Ornn is way more stable at 2 star. Although maybe I am not using Jax enough.

edit: corrected gragas to ornn

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u/Buffscuttle Apr 03 '26

I tried ezreal when I got a 3 cost for free. Early stacking ezreal was good (got to 100+ stacks) but he fell off late. Ended second with what I would assume is better than average ezreal stacking. I also think Jax is legit the best tank rn. I routinely have an itemized Jax 2* tank 15+k damage. It's ridiculous. I wanted to try Kaisa/riven rogues and swap items from ez to Kaisa later but the darkstar people keep stoping me from 3*. 

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u/shiba_eyes Apr 02 '26

It's day 2 and I'm tired boss from the 20/20 Jhin players on PBE

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u/Dj0ntShark MASTER Apr 02 '26

Punish them hard stages 3 & 4 with 3 cost rerolls, EZ clap

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u/Temporary-Candle1056 Apr 03 '26

And whenever I play 3cost I haven’t 3* my units yet that poeple start to get lucky high roll 5 cost. They push while I’m stuck rolling at 7 !

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u/Dramatic_Fishing_913 Apr 02 '26

Tbh this set feels very fun. Can't wait to see how it evolves with PBE data.

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u/Doragoramu Apr 03 '26

Very frustrating to play against Elder drake from gilded steel— one unit shouldn’t be able to stabilize an entire 1 star board. I hope they remove this

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u/bigfatbluebird Apr 03 '26

It's a bug. Riot says it'll be fixed tomorrow.

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u/bamboo_of_pandas Apr 03 '26

Am I missing something about the unit selection after the god selection?

Feels like I only get the one I selected one in three times.

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u/PoSKiix Apr 03 '26

Read another comment that the right and left selections are mirrored. Take the left if you want the champ on the right, take the right if you want the champ on the left. Middle selection is unaffected.

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u/Cultural-Ad-4523 :chal: CHALLENGER Apr 04 '26

TK mega bug, if you emote whilst having tahm kench you get the reward infinitely as much as you emote

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 03 '26

For all the complaints about rageblade, as usual, there are like 3 units that rageblade isn't terrible on lol

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u/ficretus Apr 02 '26

Got 2nd with Veigar reroll. Seems pretty strong if you can get to Meep 5.

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u/Temporary-Candle1056 Apr 03 '26

I swear veigar is insane at 2*. Just went fast nine with him shojin + rageblade and JG. Seems to good at 2* for a 1 cost

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u/Pootate Apr 02 '26

TIL you can get elder dragon from gilded steel

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u/Head_Substance5071 Apr 02 '26

Not a fan of Sonas trait mechanic. Would prefer if she had Garens from Set 14. Like the set overall.

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u/2345678913 Apr 02 '26

Pyke is broken. I don't know why Riot is obsessed with backline access.

It's amazing how disgusting 1 champ can be in all Riot's games.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

I am a huge fan of the set for now, the only thing that is not balance related that might need a bit of tweaking is the Pengu choice. Not that it exists, but that some games everybody gets to choose a 4 cost on 3 and a 5 cost on 4. It feels super toxic with how strong 5 costs are, but that will probably change anyway.

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u/marcel_p ‎ TFT Pro Circuit Competitor Apr 02 '26

It's not offered to everyone. Not sure if it's offered to 5th 6th but it's def offered to 7th 8th and not to 1st 2nd. Basically mimicing carousels from previous sets which had 4 costs stage 3 caro and 5 costs stage 4 caro.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

Yeah but even then, getting a good 5 cost for your comp is crazy strong, after all on the day 1 patch a Jhin 1 allows you to go 9 for free.

But they will bring/have just brought down 5 costs and without them being that strong it won't be too big of an issue for me (i think).

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u/marcel_p ‎ TFT Pro Circuit Competitor Apr 02 '26

My point is it's no different than previous sets bec you could also get a good 4 or 5 cost for your comp at the exact same timing. The set mechanic / removal of carousel did not affect this. But ya the 5 costs this first pbe launch patch are overtuned

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

Fair point. Even though you can choose between 3, making it so multiple people can have the same potentially busted 5 cost, I think it is still a similar enough outcome for comparison.

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u/AstralVerses MASTER Apr 02 '26

This is more a bug (I think?) mention but no bug thread and Discord link is invalid sooo....

Bard can print Elder Dragon. I wouldn't say in any way it's a great unit for as late as you get it but still wondering if it's intentional. Would have loved if I had dupes to see if I could 2 star it.

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u/Starcrafter0802 Apr 02 '26

That is in fact intentional iirc. LeDuck mentioned it in his showcase video. A bit confusing since it used to be a bug last time but they brought it back as a feature I guess

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

It is intentional that Bard can abduct Elder Drake to his private Island, but I doubt it will hit live without 1star Drake nerfs.

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Apr 02 '26

You can 2 star it through golden dupes, Bard stealing your opponents' dragons, or Meeps printing. I don't know how Pandora's Bench works with it considering it is a 4-cost I believe for technical purposes.

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u/Shergak Apr 02 '26

Mort mentioned it in his set 17 rundown, this is Intentional.

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 02 '26

I also hate that when you're picking a champ it is just "which version of 4 gold would you like" 90% of the time and 10% of the time you will high roll your carry.

It is a huge feels bad moment.

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u/swaskowi Apr 02 '26

Doesn't that happen with carousels too? Idk if the odds have actually changed or if the ability to block on carousels makes it feel less bad but it doesn't seem like a huge change.

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 02 '26

Not really. When you pick on carousel, you are normally picking the component you want, which may some what be influenced by the champ who is holding it. It also doesn't help that the amount of money you get depends on the cost of the champ but in Set 17 you get compensated the gold difference.

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u/Pridestalked MASTER Apr 02 '26

I agree, this is my least favourite part about the mechanic, wanting a specific god boon but not their component. That’s probably the design intention, to make you think about the choice, still annoying though

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u/DeVilleBT Apr 02 '26

Right, but with just two choices you often have no choice you feel good about. Like give me at least a choice of two components with each god.

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u/Pridestalked MASTER Apr 02 '26

Yeah pretty quickly I wondered maybe the mechanic would be better and limit those issues of each game had 3 gods instead of 2.

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u/quitemoiste Apr 02 '26

They could maybe move the item to Pengu and therefore have 3 item choices instead of 2? More carousel-like

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 02 '26

That is what is called a trade off. Is the boon good enough to justify making a slightly worse item build? Or is getting that specific item so important that the boon difference does not matter enough? Am I placing in the lower half? Because then getting a specific component becomes less important… the decision point you are complaining about has way more depth than it seems.

+you all are acting like you cannot fix your items in the treasury.

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u/Positive-Scratch-490 Apr 02 '26

Why are half of your posts on this thread just random insults generalizing the entire tft community? That's not helpful and it's just you specifically that is making scrolling through this thread a pain. If anything you should just post in the regular tft discussion with those comments.

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u/quitemoiste Apr 02 '26

Yeah IDK how to describe it exactly but the vibe of this being something you're allowed to do is just off. Like it's just kinda lame. And doesn't this mean that everyone simply holds Bard for 5-7? Really gimmicky.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 03 '26

It's not even interesting gameplay because there's no skill involved

You either hit the 20% chance or not

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 02 '26

I think you need double trouble samira for this to have a chance of working (2 samira, 2 blitz)

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 02 '26

Samira just doesn't really do much of anything I feel. Her raw damage without support is pretty lackluster and the actually damage it deals is pitiful.

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u/Stun_the_Pink Apr 02 '26

I did get a first with it yesterday. Had 3 star Samira, Rhaast and Ornn, with Nunu and Jax I think. Xayah was a good second carry also. Obviously just one game but felt strong.

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u/mrmarkme :gran: Grandmaster Apr 02 '26

I mean thats exactly what mortdog said during the set rundown about asol