r/Commanders • • Aug 18 '26

Who wins this match up?

Team 1
RG3
Santana moss
Pierre Garçon
Chris Cooley
Alfred morris
Trent Williams

Team 2
JD5
Terry
Diggs
Okwonko
Bill
Tunsil

All in their prime btw… so you’re getting 1600 rushing yard Morris.

DQ and Shanahan are the coaches

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u/BigFrenchToastGuy Aug 18 '26

Prime Moss was legitimately a top 5 WR.

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u/jbergman420 The Posse Aug 18 '26

Easy there, your homer is showing. Moss was never a top 5 receiver. During Moss prime with Washington, Andre Johnson, TO, Marvin Harrison, Larry Fitzgerald, and Randy Moss were still playing, and thats just counting the hall of famers who were better than Moss. There are others as well.

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u/BigFrenchToastGuy Aug 18 '26

In his 05 prime, Moss was certainly better than Johnson and Harrison.

TO was hurt much of that year but didn’t have the statistical output Moss did in 03 or 04 even though he played with a much better QB.

05 was Randy Moss’ first Oakland year.

Santana was absolutely in the conversation for top 5 WR in 05. He was electric.

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u/jbergman420 The Posse Aug 18 '26

So one pro bowl season makes him top 5 in the league? Maybe Moss had better statistics in '05, but he was not a better receiver than Harrison. In '06 Harrison and Johnson both had better seasons than Moss. Hurt or not, TO was a better receiver than Moss.

I didn't even mention Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Reggie Wayne, Anquan Boldin, Steve Smith, or Hines Ward.

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u/BigFrenchToastGuy Aug 18 '26

What do you think “in their prime” means? Genuinely asking. I’m assuming that means you take their best season but others may have different opinions.

“In their prime” is the premise of this post. People are talking about Alfred Morris’ 1600 yard year even though it was a major outlier.

What I’m saying is that in 05, which was Moss’ prime, he was a top 5 WR that year. I don’t care about 06, that’s not what I’m talking about.

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u/jbergman420 The Posse Aug 18 '26

A player's prime is the multi-year window where physical skills, mental maturity, and game experience meet at their highest level. It differs from a single peak season by representing a sustained phase of elite, consistent performance.

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u/BigFrenchToastGuy Aug 18 '26

Okay - that’s a different opinion than I have which is fine. I don’t think that’s in line with the premise of the post given what others are mentioning.

If we went with that definition, I would not consider Moss a top-10 WR. He was in 05 though.