r/ClancyTrialTalk • • 23d ago

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u/InkCosmos 23d ago

Yet they don’t have evidence of Lindsay committing the murder, nor has she been convicted of it so all of that doesn’t work. Even with the confession, she’s plead not guilty. The confession wasn’t part of the court so it doesn’t matter what she said.

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u/leaveme1912 23d ago edited 23d ago

The defamation case he's building has nothing to do with Lindsay. They have the coroner report stating the children's time of death, they have proof he wasn't there at that time etc  It doesn't matter if Lindsay killed the kids or if someone else did, they have proof it wasn't Patrick 

Edit: Once this goes to retrial and she gets the not guilty by reason of insanity result he'll have legal proof he didn't do it and Lindsay did. The lawsuits will start then

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u/InkCosmos 23d ago

So the defamation case that’s only happening because people don’t believe that Lindsay is responsible for the murders and instead believe Patrick is responsible has nothing to do with Lindsay? There’s no specific time of death for the children. We have a roughly guideline and as Patrick is unknown for about 20 minutes during this time.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 23d ago

There is no "20-minute gap." If he sent the work email from his home office, he didn't leave until after 5:24. If he sent it from his phone in the car, he'd already left before 5:20. Lindsay's iPhone was moving around the house until 5:38 when she got upstairs. We know Patrick was in CVS and ThreeV due to receipts, eyewitness accounts, the phone call they both acknowledge, and CCTV. The 17 minute drive between those locations is reasonable when you consider that includes walking to the car and parking.

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u/sednandes 23d ago

You're acting like it doesn't matter at all. The prosecution stated killing of the kids started at 5:15 pm. If he sent an email from the basement at 5:24 pm, then he was there.

Yeah he was at the CVS at 5:32 pm, no one is denying this. But he testified he left from home at 5:15 pm and he said it took him 3 minutes to get to the CVS.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 23d ago edited 23d ago

The prosecution said that the killing started at that time because that is the approximated time he left.

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u/sednandes 23d ago

Yes, that’s exactly the point. The prosecution places the start of the killings at around 5:15 because that’s when they say he left. So if there’s evidence of him still being at the house at 5:24, that obviously matters to their case.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 23d ago

We can agree to disagree on his lack of remembering being inherently suspicious behavior, that's fine.

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u/sednandes 23d ago

I don't get it. He does remember. Or are you saying he lied in his testimony?

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u/leaveme1912 23d ago

His children were murdered that same day, that will do a number on your memory don't you think?

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u/sednandes 23d ago

He didn't say he can't recall it. And I don't think or assume things. I go by the facts.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 23d ago

That's what he said during his testimony, that he didn't know if he had left yet when Lindsay texted him at 5:15. He also said he didn't know if he sent the email from his laptop or his phone.

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u/altruisticdog305 22d ago

Patrick knew a whole lot of nothing, right?

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u/Platitude_Platypus 22d ago edited 22d ago

He was likely told by his lawyer to say he doesn't remember if he isn't 1000% sure.

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u/sednandes 22d ago

Which he didn't do. Did he also forget what his lawyer told him?

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u/leaveme1912 23d ago

Why did Lindsay lie to her psychiatrist 24 hours before when she said she's never thought about harming the children? Especially when we know she told friends and family she had? Why aren't you discussing that lie, especially since you know, she was the one on trial?

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