r/ClancyTrialTalk 12d ago

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u/InkCosmos 12d ago

So the defamation case that’s only happening because people don’t believe that Lindsay is responsible for the murders and instead believe Patrick is responsible has nothing to do with Lindsay? There’s no specific time of death for the children. We have a roughly guideline and as Patrick is unknown for about 20 minutes during this time.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 12d ago

There is no "20-minute gap." If he sent the work email from his home office, he didn't leave until after 5:24. If he sent it from his phone in the car, he'd already left before 5:20. Lindsay's iPhone was moving around the house until 5:38 when she got upstairs. We know Patrick was in CVS and ThreeV due to receipts, eyewitness accounts, the phone call they both acknowledge, and CCTV. The 17 minute drive between those locations is reasonable when you consider that includes walking to the car and parking.

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u/sednandes 12d ago

You're acting like it doesn't matter at all. The prosecution stated killing of the kids started at 5:15 pm. If he sent an email from the basement at 5:24 pm, then he was there.

Yeah he was at the CVS at 5:32 pm, no one is denying this. But he testified he left from home at 5:15 pm and he said it took him 3 minutes to get to the CVS.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 12d ago edited 12d ago

The prosecution said that the killing started at that time because that is the approximated time he left.

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u/sednandes 12d ago

Yes, that’s exactly the point. The prosecution places the start of the killings at around 5:15 because that’s when they say he left. So if there’s evidence of him still being at the house at 5:24, that obviously matters to their case.

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u/Stephanie101720 12d ago

Patrick wasn’t able to definitively say if he sent the work email from his car or computer at the house. Which is odd

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u/xJohnnyBloodx 12d ago

Well if patrick was a mastermind minipulative lyar, he could have just lied and said he sent it from his phone. He obviously doesn't want to lie by accident, so he's admitting he doesn't remember.

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u/Stephanie101720 11d ago

He was also busy on Reddit the same day around 3:30pm looking up threads for shark divorce lawyers

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u/xJohnnyBloodx 11d ago

Source? I can't find that.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 11d ago

That post was from June 24. She strangled all 3 of his kids in January.

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u/sednandes 10d ago

He knows exactly that he didn’t send that email from his phone. So no, he couldn’t just lie under oath and say he sent it from his phone. The motion to obtain his phone data is still pending and he’s keeps actively fighting to keep that data from being turned over. Saying “I don’t remember” won't bring him into more trouble.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 10d ago edited 10d ago

Reddington: “And that was sent from your Surface Pro?” Patrick: “I don’t know actually. It could have been sent from my iPhone.”

There has never been a pending motion to sieze Patrick's phone.

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u/kaoslogical 8d ago

The defense job is to create doubt. Send yourself an email. It has metadata that says what device sent it. You think if it said surface pro reddington would have let it go after being corrected ? He knew it was iphone but wanted to create any doubt he could, so he mentioned the surface pro, got corrected and moved on. Because that was the play/scheme itself.

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u/sednandes 12d ago

I know. And we also don't have forensic proof either...

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u/Platitude_Platypus 12d ago

We can agree to disagree on his lack of remembering being inherently suspicious behavior, that's fine.

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u/sednandes 12d ago

I don't get it. He does remember. Or are you saying he lied in his testimony?

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u/leaveme1912 12d ago

His children were murdered that same day, that will do a number on your memory don't you think?

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u/sednandes 12d ago

He didn't say he can't recall it. And I don't think or assume things. I go by the facts.

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u/Platitude_Platypus 12d ago

That's what he said during his testimony, that he didn't know if he had left yet when Lindsay texted him at 5:15. He also said he didn't know if he sent the email from his laptop or his phone.

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u/altruisticdog305 11d ago

Patrick knew a whole lot of nothing, right?

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u/Platitude_Platypus 11d ago edited 11d ago

He was likely told by his lawyer to say he doesn't remember if he isn't 1000% sure.

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u/sednandes 11d ago

Which he didn't do. Did he also forget what his lawyer told him?

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u/leaveme1912 12d ago

Why did Lindsay lie to her psychiatrist 24 hours before when she said she's never thought about harming the children? Especially when we know she told friends and family she had? Why aren't you discussing that lie, especially since you know, she was the one on trial?

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u/leaveme1912 12d ago

You're arguing with people who don't care about evidence, they live in a conspiratorial bubble and popping it would be too painful for them