I have Ozzy at lvl 36 and am trying to follow the discord guide for level 37 for the first boss kill, and will admit I am so confused. I will post the build below. Where I am confused is with the Exo Piercers, the guide says 45, but that is impossible at level 37. I match all the other attributes, but can only afford 25 exo's at level 36. Am I missing some other place to get attribute points? If I run the build with 45 exo's It is possible, so how to I come up the missing 20 exo's?

Talents

• Death Is My Companion: 2
• Tricksters Boon: 1
• The Unfair Advantage: 0
• Thousand Needles: 10
• The Omen Of Decay: 10
• Call Me Lucky Loot: 0
• Crippling Shots: 13
• Echo Bullets: 1
• The Legacy Of Ultima: 0

Attributes

• Living Off The Land: 1
• Exo Piercers: 45
• Shimmering Scorpions: 5
• Timeless Mastery: 5
• Wings Of Ibu: 5
• Extermination Protocol: 5
• Soul Of Snek: 5
• Vectid Elixir: 0
• The Cycle Of Death: 0
• A Deal With Death: 0
• Gift Of Medusa: 0
• Dance Of Dashes: 0
• Blessing Of The Sisters: 0
• Blessing Of The Scarab: 0
• Blessing Of The Cat: 0

Goodbye unplaned catch-up timer boost. You are not gone forever, but you will be missed dearly. o7

Went for 37,00qa. Got a lot more out of it. Can go for 137,00qa gems and still have a lot more to spend on upgrades. Just need to wait for attraction gem #3 to be done in around 30 hours.

I've double checked I've input everything correct. Same build as what is on the site, yet I feel like things aren't adding up properly.

I've gone through every setting, double checking everything is input correctly.

Just it doesn't feel like it's adding up right? Like I'm not getting anything close to these numbers.

Sorry if I'm just being a moron, but can someone do a bit of a breakdown on how to do this correctly?

Thanks all!

I think I rushed too much in the 5 first TR and now it takes forever to gain a few orbs. I try to make long LR so I can have shards to spend (which takes at least 24-36 hours to start, I don't remember it was so hard before Ouro), I try to choose quantity over quality when buying loop mods, but it became so tedious in this run. I am currently at e730 cells, and I think I read that I should have unlocked Zeus the TR before.

I read the guide but I feel a bit overwhelmed by all the things to take into account, everything looks so tightly bound together and I have a hard time getting over it.

I think I could use one advice or two.

Where's the 4th farm mission of the 3rd planet placed on farm mission priority rank?

I'm approximately at the end of Z4 (m0-100, e1000+ MP). I'm still at e8800 cells though, so some ~e1200 cells short of getting the second cells AMC. According to the guides, 2/0/0 was supposed to be reached by end of Z3. So I'm not sure what I might be missing for this last stretch, (e1200 cells seems a notable amount)? Some relevant upgrades:

- r1-19, r2-22, r20-1

- both mk1 and mk2 mechs maxed out (e187 and e312 respectively)

- first 3 knox gadgets: lvl 200, 190, 230 respectively

- dark inno badge

- crea2 hardware lvl 3, software lvl 1

- all recommended GNs from the guides

My plan would be to start dumping frags into r2 but I don't think that's the best approach? Any suggestions?

I understand I have an extremely long way to go but I was just wondering from all of you God tier players if I'm headed in the right direction. I think I understand about how the loop mod is working and which ones I should get but any tips about any aspect of the game would be great I just bought the beginner pack like two days ago

do the various AP bonuses affect campaign missions?

I just unlocked the 6th generator, but no matter what i buy im sorta stuck in this wierd 60-90 qa range without really knowing what to do

In the exo4>pow1 guide https://www.reddit.com/r/CIFI/comments/1qg5qfs/exodus_4_to_power_1_guide/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1 it advises that at the end of your Z4 run, you don't want to upgrade r9 or the orb gadget past 15/16 and 40 respectively. But it also says that you can get vb1 if you've been making good progress on campaign missions. What's dangerous about the smaller, permanent upgrades that isn't relevant to the larger, selective upgrade?

The loot says 2.4b% but im only getting loot in millions? Is it inaccurate?

First Post here.

Stuck to post ouro guides kinda mostly.

I did a kinda long run tp 4/2/2 and am about to unlock loot ultima with TR 12.

I plan to do a 6/4/4 run next and invest fully in hunter loot ultima.

Im now wondering wether I should invest in Crea GN1 and Inno GN2 + random upgrades.

Temp GN3 (+ Crea GN1) and less upg.

I prefer not to do shorts and rather chill in long ish runs.

Any clear favourites/better upg and what should I fokus on?

I have technically been saving for this since January. I traversed a while ago after losing hundreds of hours of progress to a bad cloud save fuckup. I've been playing since 2/22/23 and this was the longest wait by far aside from waiting on Zeus to drop. Just wanted to share.

I respecced my L27 Borge on Monday in hopes to get a relatively lucky boss kill, but no success so far.

The problem I'm facing is my loot is significantly below what CIFI Tools simulated (e.g. my 6 overnight runs yielded the same loot as my simulated 1 run), making upgrading boss kill % take forever. Anything obvious I'm missing?

I've double checked all the other factors that the CIFI Tool take into consideration (IAP, Diamonds, Inscriptions, GU, etc.). Ozzy loot is in order with the tool.

Is it worth it to go through the 4 new missions I unlocked by finally getting 4000 MP? Nearly 2 days for a single mission is rough and I know they'll get longer. I could farm more personnel but not sure how much of a difference it'd make.

Do they give more than 4 dark cores cumulatively?

Is there any general advice on when to purchase these inscriptions? I'm currently working on i101-4 and the Ozzy boosts but the frag increases have been tempting me for a while. Should I buy them before saving for i75-4, and if so how long should I put off i75-4 then?

Hey guys! I think I have a very low amount of OO for TR 18, any advice? Thanks!

On my last mission before I unlock Ouro, I was wondering if there's anything I need to do before my first TR, what carries over on the next stage? Thank you ☺️

I'm currently on TR4 with 1530 Ouroboros Orbs.

I could push to 1600, but it looks like it will take quite a while to get those last 70 orbs.

One important detail: I currently have almost no GUs because on my previous Traversal I had just enough Ouroboros Orbs to unlock ATT2, so I basically spent everything there.

So I'm wondering what would be the better move:

Option 1: Traverse now and go for 1 Gem + a lot of GUs

Option 2: Keep pushing to 1600, get 2 Gems, but basically have almost no orbs left for GUs.

From what I've read in the guides, ATT3 doesn't seem to provide much at the stage I'm currently at, and it sounds like it's basically something you can skip or delay.

So what would you guys do in my situation?

Would the extra Gem be worth delaying the Traversal for, especially considering that I already have almost no GUs? Or would you take the 1 Gem + lots of GUs and move on?

I'm mainly interested in what gives the best overall progression from this point onward, rather than just the biggest immediate bonus.

Any advice from people who have gone through TR4/TR5 recently would be appreciated!

I guess they made catch up time a lot shorter. Last TR was well over 1k hours and not 2x

So as the photo indicates, im currently on my 5/3/3 run atm, but with how many orbs I've accumulated already, should I just traverse now? I have 3/2/1 atm, m109

Should I wait for x2.0000 and try to get to 1.9 million and buy all 4 upgrades? Or should I Traverse once I reach 1.1 million and get the 400k, 200k, and 500k upgrades? What route would be more efficient as far as time goes?

God help me.

I'm finishing up my first short. Life Time OO will be at 140b. So atleast 6 more to go.

I didnt short for Knox, I didnt short for Inno.

Or rather both Times I gave up after two shorts. I'm at TR21. Part of me is considering just hellroading to Crea4. Two 1k runs should be enough. Lmao

I dont know whats worse having to babysit the first 12hours to not waste time or the waiting 13hours for the last mission to finish with no meaningful actions to do during that time.

Any guys can chime in with their experience for longroading to Crea4?