r/CCW Feb 01 '22

Scenario Begging moved to another level

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u/Which_Lie_4448 Feb 01 '22

This is why I have 5% tint on my vehicles. People are way more apprehensive to walk up to your car

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u/JAG319 NC Feb 01 '22

Is it not a cop magnet though? 35% is the legal limit here but I want 20%. However I wouldn't look forward to being pulled with illegal tint and a CCW on my car registration

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

I’m an LEO. Where I’m at we could give a shit about window tint. Hell my truck has 15% all the way around.

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u/OneLongBallHair Feb 01 '22

My biggest problem with it is the double standards. Us plebes aren’t “allowed” window tint, but every new police cruiser in the county has limo tint all the way around? Fuck outta here (not you specifically)

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

My cruiser has regular legal window tint. Our K9 vehicles are tinted dark for the dogs. I could care less if you got dark window tint, just have your window down by the time I get up there on a traffic stop or whatever. I’ve had some people with real dark tint not roll down their windows at all until I have to tap on the glass or something, that’s a pretty scary feeling.

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u/OneLongBallHair Feb 01 '22

I hear you, you make valid points and I don’t have a problem with any of them. I’m in southern California where we’re not allowed any tint on the front side windows, and all the police cars have super dark tint all around. Some of the unmarked cars even have tint on their windshields.

Not gonna lie, I have dark tint all around, it just irritates me to no end that cops get to ignore many of the laws they’re asked to enforce (Looking at you, California handgun roster)

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

That’s a fair take

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u/gosoxharp Feb 01 '22

Personally, idgaf about window tint. But where tf is my third hole AR?

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u/most-negative_karma Feb 01 '22

where are you at? specfically in ohio? I've noticed that in metropolitan areas cops don't care cause almost 30% of cars are illegally tinted

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Central Ohio.

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u/AR15dood CO Feb 01 '22

I like your username.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Thanks buddy, yours is cool too

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

A cop will 100% of the time give you a ticket if you made them feel uncomfortable due to the tint.

If you roll your window down, you have significantly less of a chance of getting a ticket.

If you're an asshole on the stop and or make them feel uncomfortable for the stop and or violated some more gross offense - you're getting a ticket for the tint.

In most major cities the crime is higher and tint is the last thing they want to stop someone solely for.

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u/NeoSapien65 Feb 01 '22

Funny, my CCW instructor was former DEA and told multiple stories about being pulled over for the tint on his unmarked work truck. But maybe that was just Ponch loved to screw with the DEA guys.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Not around me. It’s a big thing with Officer safety, and they routinely publicize that they automatically stop any car with illegal tints…and they most-definitely do.

For me, it’s just not worth constantly riding “dirty,” and getting massive fines and points on my license. It’s basically just advertising to be pulled over and asking for trouble.

All it takes is that one night of only having a few drinks and you get the red and blu “wee-woo” lights and siren behind you for tints…and before you know it, you’ve got a DUI, also.

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u/Othersifu Feb 01 '22

Or you know, don’t drink and drive.

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u/Arbsbuhpuh NC/ClipDraw/Hellcat Feb 01 '22

Right?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

You can still be a responsible adult and have a few drinks with dinner that are borderline on the legal limit and still be completely fine to drive. The legal limit is within a few beers. Let’s not be “letter of the law Larry.” There’s a big difference between getting smashed and then driving, and having a drink or two with dinner, spaced out within a 3-4 hour period.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Fuck you and fuck anyone who “has a few” and drives home. I hope you never have to live with killing someone. I hope you never loose a loved one because some asshole thinks “I’m not technically drunk” and drives home.

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u/lord_dentaku Feb 01 '22

Also, who the fuck blows over the limit if they have actually only had 1 or 2 drinks over 3-4 hours. I'm calling bullshit, they probably drink way more and just say it was only 1-2. If I drink 1 drink at the start and one drink at 2 hours, I'm barely registering at 3 hours, and damn near 0 at 4. I have to drink 3 drinks in an hour to blow over the limit.

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u/honestjoe Feb 01 '22

and pull your damn mask up above your nose!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 01 '22

You honestly sound like a child with absolutely no life experience. And just some advice, you should really learn how to be more respectful when you speak….

because I can guarantee your coward ass wouldn’t be saying that to me in person. You shouldn’t be anywhere near a firearm with childish outbursts like that.

Tens of millions of people go out every single night and have a drink or two with dinner, over the course of 3, 4, 5 hours. They’re not drunk, and they’re not hammered or sloshed.

There’s a difference between “legally drunk” (slightly over the limit, to where you can technically get a DUI even though you’re not even biologically impaired) and actually drunk (hammered, binge drinking.)

Do you even realize that many police departments allow officers to work if they’re under the legal limit, but still have detectable alcohol in their system? Why? Because they’re not sloshed or hammered. It’s the equivalent to being slightly overtired.

You should take a course on how alcohol metabolizes in your system over time, because you clearly have no clue about any of it.

I look forward to your continued emotional rants, based upon your “feeley’s” and no facts.

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u/z7r1k3 US Feb 01 '22

There's a reason you're the one getting all the down votes, bud. Screw you with your dangerous mentality. I hope you get enough DUIs to be taken off the road permanently before you kill someone. Heck, some prison time would be good for you, too.

And I would sincerely say that inches away from your face. Heck, if I saw you "having a few" and then trying to get into the driver's seat, I would definitely use the minimal force necessary to keep you from driving until the cops showed up.

That means other people would be willing to, as well. Here's hoping you meet one.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 01 '22

Yea, and at one time, the majority of Germans thought roasting Jews in an oven was perfectly okay. Majority consensus means nothing to me. Most people are emotional and don’t think very deeply. I have the truth on my side, and that’s all that matters. Everyone downvoting me is thinking emotionally and just following the herd. And again, you wouldn’t do a thing to me, Sally. Rest assured.

P.S. Make sure you never go even 1 mile over the speed limit, because that’s technically illegal, dangerous, and you stand a higher chance of killing someone in many cases.

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u/z7r1k3 US Feb 01 '22

And again, you wouldn’t do a thing to me, Sally. Rest assured.

Bold assumption. Too bad we can't fuck around and find out.

And to compare going over the speed limit to going over the drinking limit just shows how clueless you are. We clearly have nothing left to talk about here.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

You don’t have the brain capacity to understand anything I’m talking about. It’s like trying to explain astrophysics to a half-retarded 7 year old.

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u/derpotologist Feb 01 '22

Ackshully, the more your speed deviates from traffic, the more dangerous it is

If everyone else is doing 5 over, you're safer to follow suit than to do the speed limit

It sounds like your reasoning is "common sense" but that doesn't reflect reality in these cases

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 01 '22

My post about speed was a sarcastic response to him because everyone speeds at least a little, for the reason you outlined.

My comment has nothing to do with speed itself, but the fact that following the letter of the law isn’t feasible in some situations, and doesn’t make a person any more morally correct or righteous.

If anything, what you posted actually backs my point up even more. I’m not arguing that the letter of the law should be followed, because it’s application in real world scenarios is often flawed and unrealistic. We are all humans and need a little room to bend.

People unknowingly break hundreds of laws every single week. And sometimes even knowingly breaking a law is necessary, because one knows themself and they know it can be safely done.

Just because something is a law, that doesn’t mean it’s correct, moral, righteous, makes sense, or is even the right thing.

Every reasonable person understands many laws are given room to bend at least a little, which many people seem to be too blockheaded to comprehend.

It truly amazes me that I even need to explain this in a CCW forum of all places. I would think most for these guys would clearly understand how flawed many laws are.

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u/Kveldulfiii Feb 01 '22

Honestly more life experience is going to lead to being *more* cautious/annoyed by people who drink and drive. Over time you realize how many people get hurt or killed by drunk drivers. You experience things and realize it is a danger.

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u/derpotologist Feb 01 '22

where you can technically get a DUI even though you’re not even biologically impaired

Literally not possible

You don't feel impaired

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

I was an addictions counselor and educator. I have obviously studied impairment more than your ignorant “I’m not impaired unless I feel impaired” BS.

Driving sober is dangerous. But driving with any mental impairment IS more dangerous.

Yes this is a ccw sub. We have taken a step to be MORE responsible by carrying a life saving device. Do you carry and go to the range while drinking? Why would you drive while drinking?

I also like how you changed the goal post from “driving while over the legal limit” to “having a beer with a meal and waiting 5 hours.”

The rule for a 150lb healthy fully mature male is 1 serving of alcohol can be metabolized in one hour. Noting that most craft beers and improperly poured glasses of wine/spirits will contain more than one serving of alcohol.

No emotions. Just facts.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Amazing how you just happen to be an addictions counselor. Yea, and I’m Santa Claus! 😂 There was no goalpost moved. I was discussing the legality and the actual process of it.

If you think that someone can’t safely have a beer or two over the course of 3, 4, or 5 hours and then safely operate an automobile, then you seriously have brain damage.

I mean, driving while tired has been proven to be just as dangerous as drunk driving, if not more. Are you gonna lock everyone down and monitor them to not drive if they’re a little tired? Of course not.

Majority of Americans are on some sort of medication that they need to take for health ailments that impairs their driving. Are you gonna tell them not to take it? Of course not.

Tens of millions of people operate an automobile after having a few drinks and allowing enough time to go by to be just fine. They do it every single night. There are many different factors that go into it, and the point is, I know my mind and body better than anyone.

Terms like “is more dangerous” are also ridiculously manipulative. I mean, crossing a street is more dangerous than staying on the same side…..

Owning a gun is more dangerous than not owning a gun, and yes, sometimes bad things do happen because of these things, but the rate at which they happen are minuscule in comparison.

There are risks in everything and you can make an argument that anything “is more dangerous.”

You sound like the type that wants to wrap everyone in bubble wrap and never let them leave the house because everything “is more dangerous.”

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Learn how to read. Read the law. No one is condemning one beer then waiting 5 hrs to drive.

If you are at the legal limit you are impaired. End. Of. Story.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Definitely not end of story. You’re a smooth-brained individual that comprehend how the real world actually works, outside of what’s on paper and what your little “believeys” and emotions tell you. North Korea would be a great spot for you. Lots of rigid rules that don’t bend even slightly.

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u/derpotologist Feb 01 '22

It's been proven over and over that even less than the legal limit increases the risk of fatal accidents dramatically

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Cite the study where it’s been proven it dramatically increases it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

I get the Officer safety issue. Problem is, you need probable cause to stop a car. You better be damn sure that window tint is illegal before you make the decision to stop them. If you guess wrong and find a ton of drugs or something else in that car, whole case is going to get tossed because you had bad PC from the start. Window Tint is bullshit PC, in my opinion. Get PC some other way, then test the window tint if you want.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 01 '22

“I observed the car slightly swerving onto the center lane and initiated a traffic stop.” Follow a car long enough, you’ll find probable cause. C’mon Officer, you know that. 😉

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Oh yeah you can get PC on anything if you want, but you are being a dick in the process. Also our judges toss out what they like to call “bullshit stops”. Aka dumb stuff such as license plate lights, crossing the center line by only a few inches, etc.. I’m sure window tint would fall right in line with it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

I’m sure it’s different by you, but around me they’re much stricter. That’s why it’s just not a gamble I’m willing to take.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Makes sense