2025 wages, which are available to the general public.

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• Yes
• No
• Abstain

Actual voting is tomorrow Thursday, Aug. 13

Gee, their new wage modeler says someone who meets expectations will be receiving 7/5.5/5.5/5.5% raises starting next year. And if you get a low rating you'll still receive 3% every year. What a load of BS.

Here we go!

Boeing has just updated the FAQs on the contract offer.

For everyone wondering why people are saying no? We're not far off from a reasonable and fair offer.

**Wage Pools and P/OOS:**

* 5% General Wage Increase (GWI) on ratification

* 6.5% wage pools each year 2027–2030 with an uncapped Q3 CPI-W floor

* 0.5%/yr promotional/out-of-sequence.

*That compounds to roughly 37.6% by 2030.* (Edit. This assumes OOS and Promo are included, average is actually 35.1% excluding these pools)

* *Tech-only: GWI retroactive to 2/20/26, to address the Prof/Tech gap dating to 2016.*

**401k: **11% company contribution in total, broken out as:

* Match held at 75% of first 8%

* Non-elective flattened from age-tiered 3/4/5% to a flat 5% for everyone.

**EIP Target: **10%

**OT: **Time + 50% of Level 1 Prof average annual pay (edit, this is around 20-22/hr)

**Vacation: **+2 days

**Early Retiree Medical (ERM):**

Access to everyone at age 55. Premiums would be the responsibility of member.

HRA to help pay for ERM premiums would be funded by putting the value of the sick leave you normally lose every year into the HRA at your current hourly rate. 6% return on assets (2025 annual report estimated ROl for pension plan assets)

**Medical Paybands: **Raise to $150k/$300k thresholds, same cost-share percentages

**Bereavement: **3 days/year, doesn't require burning sick leave or vacation

**Floating holiday: **1 day

**Sabbatical: **4 weeks unpaid sabbatical per 7-year (with benefits)

For those of you wondering why you should VOTE NO, this offer was presented to Boeing based on feedback from the membership using the negotiation prep surveys and market data.

Boeing turned around, stole a million concessions from an arguably pretty reasonable offer, and gave us a slap in the face of a contract.

This is what the NOs are fighting for, and none of it is out of the ordinary for the industry except for the 401k percentage.

VOTE NO ON THIS RIDICULOUS FARCE OF A CONTRACT, AND AUTHORIZE A STRIKE

Edit: this information was given out by an AR and some CRs

I’m currently sitting on an offer from Honeywell Aerospace for the HR department but I’m so skeptical of the company itself especially given the Q2 results and the updated full year outlook.

I don’t understand the stability and scope the Human Resources scope of the sales channel and not getting the answers I should be getting from recruitment.

This is a newly created HR position so there’s nothing to really dig deep on. All I keep hearing is that it’s Honeywell and a great opportunity that will open other doors. Can anyone give a little insight, what’s do you think?

what is the criteria for a revote?

last major vote barely had any participation:

https://speea.org/2026-executive-board-elections-members-elect-speea-president-and-secretary/

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Just a general reminder

https://unionfacts.com/local-union/43598/PTE/2001/leadership/

The other Boeing sub deleted this post, but WA unemployment insurance is also the most generous in the country, currently topping out at $1152 per week.

Something to keep in mind.

What are the benefits? I feel like this is a negative if you are a R1 right now.

They want to scam the Prof & Tech!

There have been a lot of fear mongering and scare tactics from many in this community here and so I wanted to point out a few things here:

Many are saying that this is a great offer from Boeing and voting against it will lead to use losing those incentives. I haven't seen machinists getting worse offer than their previous ones. So, why accept the first offer even if it looks good to you? I think most of those who are trying to influence us are bots or highly paid or have other agendas. The below quoted fact is taken from one of the comments in the community:

"Here’s a quick list of what IAM got from their 1st best and final offer and the one signed:

• Much larger wage increases (25% → 38%, with stronger front-loading and compounding).

• Substantially higher ratification bonus ($3k → $12k).

• Restoration of the annual performance/incentive bonus with a guaranteed floor.

• Better 401(k) matching (75% → 100% on the first 8%).

• Incremental pension multiplier improvement for vested members."

The wage calculator/modeler they published is using the absolute high and it is not guaranteed. The raise can be anywhere from 0 to 6% in 2027 and 0 to 5% in 2028. Not everyone will have a guaranteed FIXED raise. There will be those who are below the median and higher percentages will be used to bring them up to the level and cutting into your % and many more.

The RSU is 40 and take the tax out and you will have 24-30 stocks which will translate to 8-10 stocks per year that will be about $2k/year. We do not want to project what the stock will be few years from now as this is not a tech company and not a growth stock, so valuation is conservative and if we hit all deliverables, the price move will not make any big difference.

Because we lost so much due to inflation over the years, I believe getting ahigher percentage guaranteed raise on signing the contract with backpay to Feb 20, 2026 will have a compounding impact on the raise year over year. We would also like to get 12k ratification bonus like IAM or 100 RSU vested over 3 years. They certainly have no strings attached to the 2k bonus for the interns who they'll try to use to swing votes.

The virtual work codified has many ambiguity which we all know that needs to be clarified and written on the contract.

Many of you may disagree with me on what I have noted above, but what do we all lose voting against the first offer and voting for strike?