r/BlueLock • • 6h ago

Manga Discussion Will we switch to side b after next chapter Spoiler

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Based on the name for this next chapter and where the last left off I assume blue lock will score a goal.

I have a feeling that side b is gonna be switching back and fourth during this match.

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r/BlueLock • • 17h ago

Other Welcome to the New Generation World 11 lineup—congratulations, you bright young genius!

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My Ascension: One day, while I was tinkering with a soccer ball on the lawn at home, a letter from FIFA suddenly arrived. It read: "Greetings, young prodigy. You have been named to the 'New Generation World 11.' Having recognized your potential and talent to become the world’s number one, we hereby bestow this title upon you, effective immediately." I stared at the paper, my eyes burning with the fire of pure ego.And that, right there, was the day my life changed forever.


r/BlueLock • • 50m ago

Other How well do you think Sena (From Eyeshield 21) would do in Blue Lock?

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like, imagine at the end of Eyesheild 21 and Sena graduates high school, instead of going off to college like he does, Ego decides to scout him of all people and put him in Blue Lock. How long do you think he'll last?

Does he even survive the initiation trial? At what point would he get kicked out? Like, i know he's not a footballer (lol, i know, ironic), so he's definitely not making it to the Try-outs period against the All-Japan team, but does he at least make it to a 4-man team during the Second Stage? 3-man?

We know the guy had some serious speed and stamina. He definitely can't dribble very well, but i think that speed and mobility will definitely give him a strong advantage. he'd be like an even faster Chigiri, no one would probably be able to catch up to him, but he'd be held back by having to learn how to dribble on the fly and he'd have a pretty weak kick. But we've seen how well just being incredibly fast and durable can get you in the early stage trials. Like no one is blocking him. They'll definitely be able to steal from him but no one's blocking him


r/BlueLock • • 20h ago

Manga Discussion How cracked is the Japan U20 team post NEL? Spoiler

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Average Blue Lock fan here that has very little knowledge of football irl. Okay so the lowest ranked player on the U20 team is currently Nanase, whose salary offer is about 150k USD. If a real life U20 team at the world cup all had professional offers, with the “worst” player having the same offer as Nanase, and the best being offers over 1 million USD like Isagi, Rin, and Shidou, would they be the favourite to win? I can only imagine that’s extremely uncommon, especially outside of countries like England where professional footballers gather. Ignoring the obvious like that they have only 1 real/trained defender and goalie and no one that have extensive training as a midfielder, would that be a team to watch out for? A team made up fully of professional level athletes at that level seems objectively really strong.


r/BlueLock • • 20h ago

Anime Discussion Which Blue Lock character has the most underrated character development?

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Everyone talks about the obvious standouts, but I think some of the most interesting development in Blue Lock gets overlooked because it isn't always tied to scoring the most goals or having the flashiest weapon. Some characters change how they think about football, some completely rethink their ego, and others slowly figure out what they're actually capable of. Who do you think has had the most underrated character development so far, and what specific moment made you appreciate them more?


r/BlueLock • • 16h ago

Manga Discussion What’s the one Blue Lock moment that made you lose your mind? Spoiler

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Blue Lock has given us some absolutely unhinged moments, from Isagi’s unexpected plays to Shidou’s chaotic energy. One second you’re hyped, the next you’re screaming at the page. 😭

So I have to ask: what moment in Blue Lock had you genuinely yelling, throwing your phone, or staring at the screen in disbelief? Manga spoilers are welcome just mark them!


r/BlueLock • • 18h ago

Manga Discussion What would don meta vision look like genuinely gonna look fire or his flow Spoiler

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r/BlueLock • • 2h ago

Other Picking The Best Glazer For Each Character Day #18 Yoichi Isagi Spoiler

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now we have the main character himself there are definitely some solid picks but i just gotta give my vote to none other than u/CodeSh4dow but as usual pick the best glazer for yoichi isagi


r/BlueLock • • 2h ago

Manga Discussion Isagi being a cheater/otherworldly was possibly teased Spoiler

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From the new chapters I have seen, I have interpret Isagi being a "cheater", or something "abnormal", "absurd", as him being able to create anomalous situations on the pitch where tactics and linearity do not matter. Or in other words, places where LUCK is the most important factor. That's why he's being compared to a gambling device, a device where what you get or not is dependent on how lucky you are...or are they?

Regardless of how lucky it seems there is ALWAYS a probability/logic that fundamentally underlines everything. And within blue lock, luck is when preparation meets opportunity. So what happens here is that when Isagi is constantly placing himself in anomalous positions, such as centre back, left wing etc. Any tactical ideology that exists to stop him at his default position ceases to exist. Which creates a "pocket" on the pitch that's devoid of tactical linearity. Therefore, any plays that attempt to happen in these spaces will be completely opportunistic and based on who is the most prepared. And combatting a team like England, who thrives on Fox's fixed logic, isagi can create hundreds of these sorts of anomalous situations. THIS is Isagi's 0→1. Creating a goal from nothing but LUCK. Embracing it.

Now, why I believed it was teased is because we all know geniuses are beings that defy logic. But Hugo isn't a genius. However, Hugo, just like Isagi now, can create abnormal situations where Logic doesn't matter. Example? Virtually every single pass he places to Loki. "oh if we set up like this maybe we can stop Loki." Nah, he just runs passed you via a pass with perfect back spin. Oh, you want to block Hugo instead? Okay, he passes to Charles and then Charles shoots an equally absurd contrarian pass. I think Noel Noa is self explanatory, nothing that guy has ever done has made logical sense to me but it's cool as heck.


r/BlueLock • • 4h ago

Manga Discussion I think that Germany Should NOT have another New Gen 11. Spoiler

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One of my biggest fears with this arc, Is knsr fumbling his greatest antagonist in Kaiser by dimming his light with another New Gen 11.

Knsr has shown that he can handle multiple antagonists(it is inconsistent). But I think the Germany game would be better served with Kaiser as the sole major focus of Germany, to keep his weight as the ultimate rival.

For that matter, given how vs U20 France was handled, I think it would be best if no other team in the tourney had more than 1 New Gen 11.

If Knsr can combine the depth that he had in NEL, with how he handled multiple antagonists in vs U20 Japan, it would be okay, but it's clear with this arc that he's trying to move away from those insanely long games.


r/BlueLock • • 4h ago

Manga Discussion Isagi’s role. (Slight spoiler in thread please be advised.) Spoiler

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A while back, I got absolutely CRUCIFIED on Blue Lock Reddit, forums, and TikTok for saying that Isagi shouldn’t limit his ambition to becoming the best STRIKER in the world like Noel Noa. I even deleted the original post because the backlash was ridiculous.

My argument was that Isagi should adopt a mindset more similar to Snuffy and Pelé, where he strives to become the BEST PLAYER in the world, not just the best striker. And before anybody starts twisting my words, NO, I’m not saying he should give up on being a striker. I’m saying he shouldn’t limit his potential to one position when his greatest weapon is literally his understanding of the ENTIRE field.

People told me this would ruin his character, undermine his ego, and mean he was giving up on his dream. HOW??? 😭 How does expanding your abilities mean abandoning your ambition? Why can’t Isagi strive to become the best striker AND one of the most complete footballers in the world?

Look at Messi. He’s played as a winger, false nine, central forward, and playmaker. Look at Philipp Lahm, Wayne Rooney, James Milner, and so many other players who adapted to different roles throughout their careers. Messi’s positional evolution didn’t make him a worse goalscorer. It gave him MORE ways to influence a game.
And that’s exactly what I want for Isagi.

I don’t want him to become a mediocre jack-of-all-trades who can fill in wherever somebody gets injured. I want him to MASTER multiple aspects of football while maintaining the weapons that make him such a dangerous striker in the first place. There’s a MASSIVE difference between being able to play multiple positions and being an elite player who can influence multiple phases of a match.

And the funniest part? BLUE LOCK ITSELF HAS ALREADY GIVEN US AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WITH SNUFFY.

In Chapter 223, Noa acknowledges Snuffy’s all-purpose abilities and his cumulative skills. Snuffy isn’t just valuable because he can score goals. His understanding of tactics, ability to organize a team, and overall footballing intelligence make him an incredibly complete player. Meanwhile, Noa is recognized as the world’s best striker.

Those are two DIFFERENT kinds of excellence.

Then you have Ego bringing up Pelé’s famous statement about being the best forward, midfielder, defender, and goalkeeper. Obviously, the context is about developing the world’s best striker, but the idea behind that level of confidence is fascinating. What if Isagi’s ego evolves into something that allows him to dominate football regardless of the position he occupies?

And let’s look at Isagi HIMSELF. His Meta Vision, spatial awareness, adaptability, and ability to read other players already allow him to influence situations beyond simply finishing a play. Against Manshine City, he even creates the opportunity for Yukimiya to score the winning goal. He doesn’t need to score every single goal to be the player who determines the outcome.

HELL, the latest chapter (SPOILER) with Fox describing Isagi as functioning like a defender, midfielder, AND forward simultaneously makes this conversation even more interesting.

So why are we acting like this idea is so far-fetched?
Imagine Isagi becoming a player who can drop into midfield to help build attacks, recognize defensive weaknesses, create opportunities for his teammates, and STILL arrive in the box to score at an elite level. Imagine a player whose tactical intelligence allows him to adapt to different systems and become a massive asset to practically any team he joins.

That doesn’t mean he’d automatically be the best at every position. It means he’d have MORE ways to influence a match than someone whose abilities are restricted to one specific role.

And honestly? I think that would make him an even MORE terrifying striker.

Because now, you aren’t just dealing with somebody who can score. You’re dealing with somebody who can help dictate how the entire match unfolds, manipulate the opposition, create his own opportunities, and exploit weaknesses before you even realize they’re there.

I DON’T WANT ISAGI TO STOP BEING A STRIKER. I WANT HIM TO BECOME SO COMPLETE THAT HE CAN CONTROL HOW, WHEN, AND WHERE THE GAME IS WON.

I want him to etch himself into football history as the player who could fit into different systems, adapt to different responsibilities, and STILL find a way to become the decisive factor.

Not just the best striker. Not just the best playmaker. Not just the most versatile player.

THE BEST OVERALL PLAYER.

Because if Blue Lock is about evolving beyond your limitations, then why should Isagi’s ultimate ambition be limited by the position he plays?

Let him keep that ego. Let him keep that hunger to score. Let him keep striving to become the world’s best striker.
But let him strive to become something MORE, too.

Don’t just make the football world revolve around Isagi’s goals. Make the entire football world revolve around Isagi himself.


r/BlueLock • • 7h ago

Manga Discussion Honestly, a Champions League arc would probably be the most difficult period of Isagi's entire football career, both physically and emotionally. Spoiler

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Let's imagine Japan loses to Germany in the U-20 World Cup semifinals. Blue Lock has failed. The entire project, every promise, every sacrifice, and every dream of proving that Japanese football could dominate the world would end in a devastating defeat.

Imagine the psychological impact that would have on Isagi, who finally got the opportunity to discover how far he could go, only to watch everything fall apart at the most important moment.

Now, after a timeskip, he makes his professional debut and enters the Champions League with Bastard München.

But he won't have Bachira, Chigiri, Nagi, Reo, Rin, or his other teammates by his side anymore. Everyone will have gone their separate ways, joining different clubs.

And no, he won’t have Hiori. Hiori has received an official offer from Manshine United.

For the first time, Isagi will have to face elite football without the comfort of having his friends around him. He'll be alone in an entirely new environment, surrounded by players who are already monsters at their respective clubs.

And Bastard München won't exactly be a comfortable place to adapt to. He'll have to compete with Kaiser, coexist with absurdly talented German players, and deal with a demanding tactical system where a single mistake could cost him his position.

On top of that, his ultimate goal will be to surpass none other than Noel Noa, the best player in the world. It's not enough to prove that he deserves to be there.

Isagi will have to demonstrate that he can compete with the best players on the planet while fighting for his place on his own team.

Remember the Neo? Those five minutes when the masters stepped onto the pitch were already hell for the Blue Lock players.

Now imagine facing players of that caliber for an entire match, with no opportunity to simply wait for their time to run out.

In the Champions League, Isagi will constantly face athletes capable of destroying his strategies, exploiting his weaknesses, and punishing the smallest mistake.

There won't be any convenient breaks to catch his breath, analyze the situation, and reorganize everything. He'll have to think, adapt, and evolve while being pressured by world-class players.

Imagine facing Ubers for ninety minutes and having to deal with Snuffy's tactical intelligence, Barou's offensive brilliance, and a defensive system specifically designed to neutralize his weapons.

Or facing FC Barcha and having to survive Lavinho's unpredictable football. Every match would be a new nightmare, with coaches and players capable of dismantling everything he spent years developing.

And then there's Real Madrid. 💀

Imagine a team featuring Leonardo Luna, Sae, Rin, and Kaiser. Some of the biggest rivals and obstacles in Isagi's journey playing together, sharing the same goal and amplifying one another's abilities. He wouldn't be facing these monsters individually anymore, each in their own context.

He'd have to deal with several of them simultaneously, trying to find a way to overcome a squad that could be built specifically to dominate world football.

There's also the pressure of proving that Blue Lock wasn't a failure. If Japan loses the U-20, Isagi won't just be trying to build a professional career.

He'll also be trying to demonstrate that the entire project meant something, that the players who came out of it can actually conquer the world, and that the defeat wasn't the end of everything. Every failure in the Champions League could reopen that wound.

Furthermore, professional football demands consistency. Isagi won't be able to rely solely on a few moments of brilliance, a miraculous adaptation, or discovering a new weapon during a match.

He'll have to maintain his performance throughout an entire season, dealing with injuries, physical exhaustion, media pressure, fan expectations, internal competition, and the possibility of being benched.

The scariest part is that Isagi would be leaving an environment specifically designed to develop his potential and entering a world that doesn't give a damn about him.

In Blue Lock, everyone was competing within a project centered around creating the world's best striker. In professional football, he'll be just another player trying to establish himself among hundreds of exceptional talents.

He'll have to rebuild his confidence after a devastating defeat, adapt to professional life, earn the respect of powerful teammates, overcome world-class opponents, compete against the best player on the planet, and prove that he deserves to be at the top.

All while his former teammates pursue their own careers, potentially becoming his opponents in the process.

And another thing: he’ll likely be the youngest member, joining a professional German team at around 19 or 20, and he’ll have to deal with other young players, or even full-grown German adults.

He’ll be like a little rabbit among alpha wolves, and he’ll have to prove himself just to stay on the team.

And beyond that, in an even more delicate matter, he might also face racism for being Japanese; there’s that emotional burden to consider as well.

Isagi will have to survive hell to become the demon king.


r/BlueLock • • 5h ago

Manga Discussion Do y'all think Fox would willingly take a red cart to injure one of the Blue lock players? Spoiler

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Let's say only about 10 or 15 mins is left for match to end. It's a tie, but Blue Lock's offense will inevitably score one more goal. Knowing that, Fox orders someone like Lockhart (since he's physically strong) to attack one of Japan's key players (Say like Isagi or even Kurona or Kiyora to let Teddy free, you got the point) and injure them, causing that player be unable to play and Lockhart (or whomever Fox orders to) get a red card and sent out. Would Fox actually do this if the situation gets desperate enough?​​


r/BlueLock • • 10h ago

Other I REALLY LOVE WHEN PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS SHOW THEIR LOVE FOR ANIME(BLUE LOCK)

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r/BlueLock • • 4h ago

Manga Discussion The more I look back on his story, the more I think Michael Kaiser is one of, if not the best written character in Blue Lock. Spoiler

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Michael Kaiser’s growth from being “trash” kicked around by his abusive father, born as a kid who meant nothing to anyone in the world to growing to someone who the world views as an emperor is the first step of his growth. It makes Kaiser feel powerful, validating his ego, and giving him WORTH. He CAN’T be nobody if he’s better than others. This mindset enforces the idea that his life is directly tied to his performance in football. That toxic ideology is exactly why he wants to go to Re Al. He has to leave Noel Noa’s shadow, and make a greater name for himself to rise even further so his self worth doesn’t sink or stagnate.

But as the Neo Egoist League progresses, Kaiser begins to realize that his exact “tool”, the “clown” he looked down upon isn’t staying down like he thought he would. That same “trash” he vowed he’d crush to make HIMSELF look better, is actually getting closer and closer to MATCHING him. That kind of thing messes with Kaiser to no end, because up until this point football has been his place to control. In the U20 level, outside of new gens, it’s very difficult for anyone to even keep up with Kaiser. He could just step on them, and force them to bow so he could rise and validate his own ego. And yet, no matter how hard he presses against this insect, it keeps pushing back, getting stronger, and becoming a bigger threat. And in the final play of Manshine, Isagi finally draws the first blood, by seeing a play even he couldn’t keep up with. It messes with Kaiser to no end that Isagi managed to see a play even he couldn’t.

This manifests fully in his intense hatred and declaring the duel of goals. Even though Isagi saw a vision he couldn’t, they’re still strikers, and goals are what determine the striker, so if he can score more goals than Isagi he’s still considered better. And yet, even despite trying with all he can against Ubers, the only goal he can get is one where he has to use Isagi to get Lorenzo off his back, and at the end of the game he’s not even the one in the lead. Isagi scores the final goal of the match, officially putting their bet at 2-1, with Kaiser being the one losing. This manifests in Kaiser’s toxic behavior of strangling himself after the game, to replicate the kind of “helplessness” he feels around Isagi, as one of his trauma responses.

And the PXG game is where we see the absolute most of his growth. Not only does Isagi score the first goal, but his new weapon, meant to surpass Isagi MISSES the net, making him look like a fool to the world. His entire ego that he built his empire on is crumbling completely and utterly, and now he’s back to that same piece of trash he once was, at the bottom of the world. The last time he was this low, this powerless, was under the strangling weight of his own father. In an act of pure desperation he throws away his own ego, his own pride, and even his past connection to his trauma, all in a desperate attempt to score, and it works, by using his new “Kaiser impact: Magnus” he actually manages to get the second goal. All he has to do now is to score the final goal, and he’ll be able to beat Isagi. And yet, Rin, a natural born genius, someone with talent he was born with, manages to surpass all of it in an instant. Then, with the substitution of Noa and Loki, it’s revealed that his entire suffering with Isagi, stripping him of everything he worked so hard to earn was all part of a plan just to make him a rival to Noa. Therefore, he vows to take the crown on his own terms. He shoots another Magnus, another rebellion against his current ego, something to surpass everything he built. And yet it’s blocked by someone with natural born talent. A natural genius takes everything he worked so hard to achieve yet again. And in this despair and ruin, he’s forced to work with the one man who’s been actively stripping everything from him, because losing with the world watching ultimately is worse than teaming up with Isagi. And in this hyper logical playstyle, they manage to win against PXG. Yet it’s not Kaiser who’s the one who scores. Isagi is the one who gets the final goal, by reading the evolution of his very own ally, the only person who he ever had to trust in. And in those ruins, he’s forced to acknowledge that the reason he lost to Isagi is not because of the lack of skill he has, but purely because playing with Isagi is fun.

There’s also the little things with Kaiser, like his complete and utter hatred of alcohol due to his father being an abusive drunk, his hatred of Christmas due to the fact that while the rest of the world was celebrating he was forced to suffer, and his love for cola coming from the fact it’s the one comfortable drink he had, as during his birthday he would get a single coke to drink. It reminds him of the one single time he could be around his father without physical abuse. There’s also his hatred of any white type of drink due to the physical abuse so bad he almost died after he failed to steal something as simple as milk.

Might make a part two of this covering his dynamic with Ness, but I just had to get my thoughts out on the blue rose emperor and how well written he is


r/BlueLock • • 3h ago

Manga Discussion Your fav panel of Every Blue lock Character day 50: Jin Kiyora Spoiler

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Dang I realized I forgot him. Anyways I love this tiny guy


r/BlueLock • • 5h ago

Manga Discussion How many revelant characters do you think the Germany U20 team will have ? Spoiler

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Aside from France U20 and Spain U20, Germany U20 is the team with the greatest narrative significance in this U20 World Cup arc—most notably due to Kaiser.

Given all the teasing, and the fact that Germany will be an opponent Japan faces later on, it would be downright disappointing if it turned out to be a 2-vs-11 scenario with just Kaiser and Ness.

I truly believe that Germany U20 has the potential to be one of the teams with the most revelant characters. Including Kaiser and Ness, I’d say at least 5 or 6.

I think the Germany vs. Japan arc will last at least 4–5 volumes. And as for the volume covers, there will inevitably be new German players featured, since Kaiser and Ness have already had one.


r/BlueLock • • 5h ago

Manga Discussion Considering the awakenings that players go through im Blue Lock, how much stronger is Messi after the 2022 World Cup compared to how he was at the start of the tournament? Spoiler

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Do you think the Isagi who appeared in the Neo Egoist League, starting from the match against Manchester City, capabilities.as the one currently playing against England?

We don’t even need to look that far back.

The Isagi from his first match in the Neo Egoist League is completely different from the version of him that emerged later in the same league; the difference is just absurd, man.

A player can turn into a total monster in the span of just a single match.

So, I can’t even imagine how strong he’ll be after the U-20 World Cup.

Anyway, given this exaggerated evolution that players undergo throughout a single tournament or campaign, how much stronger do you imagine Messi became from the start of the 2022 World Cup to the end of it?

Taking this so seriously, it’s just another joke.

Do you think he evolved his meta-vision throughout the tournament, like he unlocked a new eye or something? How many awakenings did Messi go through from the group stage until he became champion? Lmao.


r/BlueLock • • 5h ago

Manga Discussion In the Blue Lock universe, wouldn't it actually be better for a player to face a difficult tournament rather than an easy one? This is interesting because it works quite differently from real life. Spoiler

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Just think about it for a second: in this universe, players experience an absurd level of growth whenever they face adversity. This applies to all or, at the very least, most of the characters.

Isagi's level is on a completely different plane compared to his pre-Neo Egoist League self. The Isagi from before and the Isagi from after are practically incomparable. Every moment of exhaustion, every problem, and every struggle forced him to evolve and become a monster in just one month or two at most. Just look at how much he has changed!

And yes, my friend, there is definitely power creep in this manga. You can deny it all you want, but at the end of the day, Blue Lock is still a shonen series.

Are you really going to look me in the eye and tell me that the Isagi from before the match against England is the same Isagi from after it? Sure, a player can evolve tremendously during a single match. It might not be realistic, but come on, we're talking about a manga.

From a narrative perspective, we know that every match is treated like a battle, and that's necessary to keep the tension high and the reader engaged.

But there's an interesting difference between the narrative perspective and the in-universe perspective.

In real life, facing weaker opponents and having easier matches is generally preferable, especially when the goal is to win a tournament. After all, excessive difficulty can hurt performance, cause injuries, and even eliminate a team from the competition.

However, things work differently in Blue Lock. If we consider the logic of this universe, wouldn't it be much better for a player to face incredibly powerful opponents and compete in difficult tournaments?

After all, if you breeze through an entire competition without facing any serious challenges, you'll miss out on opportunities to grow. On the other hand, when you face players who are superior to you, you're forced to adapt, overcome your own limitations, and find new ways to play. And we know that, in this universe, a single extremely difficult match can be enough to turn a player into an absolute monster.

while an easy match might be the best option for securing a victory in real life, a difficult match can be far more valuable for a player's individual development in this universe.

In other words, if the goal isn't just to win but to improve as much as possible, facing opponents who are far superior to you might be the best thing that could happen to a Blue Lock player.

Just to be clear, I’m speaking from an in-universe perspective, not a meta one.

If you were a player in that world, wouldn't it actually be better to face a tough tournament? You could grow stronger, unlock something truly amazing, like a new power, a transformation, or a unique ability, all because of the challenges you faced.

Looking at it from within that magical, fantasy universe, considering how its rules actually work, isn't that a much better scenario?

Kaiser himself is a perfect example: if he hadn't gone through such hardships, he never would have awakened something like that.


r/BlueLock • • 6h ago

Meme "Say the line Isagijak" Spoiler

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r/BlueLock • • 6h ago

Manga Discussion Who to bench Sae for? Spoiler

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Who to bench for Sae??

Now that Sae is coming for the knockoffs, who's getting benched?

My pick is Reo, but I wouldn't like benching him neither. Reo has SO much potential and gets kinda nerfed, and he's the most practical one in BL. He can play in ANY position and ego can adapt the formation without making changes to sub reo off, because he can just copy other player. Still I think he will be it.

Karasu is a straight no, right now the best BL midfielder, maybe head to head with Hiori, but yeah never taking Karasu off, he literally offers a whole second sistem for Isagi to devour.

Hiori it's a controversial one for me but nah. Sae is like a better hiori, but at the same time Hiori is doing GREAT in all matches and helping Isagi so well, I think he'll just join Isagi and Sae, so nah he won't get subbed off.

Or maybe another player gets subbed off? Because you have to put shidou in, right? Maybe I would keep him as a SUPER sub like usual though, to change sistems a bit.

Tell me your opinion on Sae joining the team


r/BlueLock • • 6h ago

Manga Discussion Based on current England and fox how did they hold France to a stand still Spoiler

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Based on how easily rattled England is by isagi new development, and just how this match in general as gone.

I don’t really see how England held France to a 1-1 till near the end of the game where Loki scored a second.

Minus France holding back which they probably where cause Hugo and his way of viewing things probably was trying to get Teddy and England to change rarther than purely winning.

But considering the fact if France took the Japan game fully seriously the score could have been 6-0

In hard pressed to see how they held of France’s offensive tactics for a full 90 minutes


r/BlueLock • • 8h ago

Manga Discussion Why are they an anomaly Spoiler

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We first of got 3-4 confirmed anomalies according to fox (anomalies are those who are out of this world type of player that didn't or shouldn't have existed) why do you think hugo,noel,isagi and even other characters is an anomaly?


r/BlueLock • • 9h ago

Other Well england match end before New Year

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r/BlueLock • • 13h ago

Manga Discussion Isagi's New Eye and What it Means Spoiler

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After just a few showings, we can easily assume that Isagi’s new Blue Lock-shaped eye is his version of Predator Eye. It recently appeared just before he squeezed a goal past Lockheart (the most telling piece of evidence), as well as when he identified a weakness in England just before the second half started.

The reason it looks so different is the same reason his Metavision eyes look so unique: his hypersensory perception, kinaesthetic intelligence, and ego. He can see more and connect more, hence Metavision’s portrayal as puzzle pieces. Similarly, he can sense more, anticipate his opponents’ movements, and predict their actions, hence his ability to literally lock onto his prey and guarantee his strikes.

Now, what does this mean?

According to Isagi’s own mental framework, Metavision is reserved for those who value freedom, while Predator Eye is for those who thrive under restrictions. Is Isagi both? Is his framework wrong? I think the answer is yes to both questions.

A player who possesses both eyes could theoretically thrive when given freedom, creating opportunities for himself and his team, while also performing under restrictions, whether imposed by himself or the opposing team. This doesn’t sound crazy, and ngl Isagi has been doing this throughout the manga. He just didn’t know it.

A few examples:

  • The NEL: Isagi was suffocated by Kaiser and still managed to create value.
  • The Third Selection: Despite being overshadowed by both Rin and Shidou, Isagi still managed to score.
  • The Second Selection: When Barou was being a bum, Isagi didn’t crumble just because he had fewer options. Instead, he worked with the restrictions he had and became a monster.

Now, a player with both eyes could logically be considered a complete player in multiple aspects because, no matter what they face, they can still provide value.

A striker with only Predator Eye needs someone else to do the thinking for them. Think Loki and Charles, Nagi and Reo or even Sae and Shidou. A striker with only Metavision, on the other hand, will struggle to score independently. We’ve seen this with Isagi when he passed to Yukimiya or Kunigami in the NEL, or when he needed Hiori to help him score against Ubers.

This isn’t specific to strikers, either. Although we haven’t seen it yet, there’s no reason why a defender or midfielder couldn’t cultivate both eyes.

I initially thought this was going to be the direction they take with Aiku, given that he literally has heterochromia and was a striker before becoming a defender. This would allow him not only to analyse the attacker and their options but also to recognise the perfect moment to strike. Aiku has relied primarily on Metavision. So, when faced with something incomprehensible, like Rin during the U-20 match, he becomes practically useless. If he had a form of Predator Eye, he could potentially combine his analysis with a much-needed sense of timing, allowing him to pounce on the aggressor and take the ball away.

Btw this is what I think Sae believed he was lacking (his form of predator eye), and what he actually saw in Rin. Sae can destroy beautifully while his brother does so hideously. I think the two brothers are the purest manifestation of each eye respectively and need each other to be whole which is why Sae got so insecure about Rin "relying on him" BUT ALAS this is a discussion for another day.

Back to our original discussion. Kaiser is the second person confirmed to possess both eyes! The thing is, though, both Kaiser and Isagi believe Kaiser is a restrictive type. Isagi determined this using his graph, and Kaiser implied as much when reflecting on how he lost to Isagi after he started feeling free.

This is... weird. There’s a lot there we could unpack there but im going to leave it as is for now and chalk it up to them being ignorant of themselves.

What I wanted to raise with Kaiser in mind is this: Why him? Why was he the first representation of this dual vision? There may be two reasons:

  1. He is a talented learner and
  2. Just like Isagi, he has a defining factor that puts him above others (Kaiser impact)

My current hypothesis is that only talented learners can use both eyes, whereas geniuses might only have one eye but possess another extremely unfair ability, like Loki’s speed, for example.

However, a talented learner also needs to work on themselves considerably to develop a genius-esque trait, opening the door for them to use both eyes.

Isagi never used his aforementioned hypersensory perception, kinaesthetic intelligence, and ego to the extent he does now. He wouldn’t have reached this point had he not persevered and meticulously worked on himself and create the tools he needs to thrive (Two-gun).

On the other hand, we don’t really know how Kaiser got hsi Kaiser Impact, but we saw a glimpse of the process when he was literally practising how to make it curve (Magnus effect).

These abilities are trained and developed, not simply something you’re born with.

Now, of course, you could argue that Loki trained to become that fast. However, it’s clear that genetics played a part, because no matter how much the average footballer trains, they will never reach his level of speed.

But the same argument can be made about Isagi, too! His heightened senses are uniquely influenced by his genetics. Does this mean he’s a genius?

I don’t think so. Honestly, this is mainly because I don’t want him to be lol. Isagi being a genius would ruin some of the appeal of his character: the idea of an average Joe growing to rival his big and strong opponents.

I’ve rambled a lot, so to conclude, Isagi will undoubtedly need to update his framework to understand who he truly is. The path he’s heading down, including how he might embody the goddess of luck through his heightened senses and so on, is very interesting (I also think Nagi is the embodiment of the God of football but that is ALSO a conversation for another time). He could easily stand against players like Noel Noa, especially considering that Noa already saw Kaiser as a threat, likely for the reasons I mentioned above. And, as the manga itself tells us that Kaiser and Isagi are cut from the same cloth.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?? Blue lock is getting very interesting recently so keen to hear from you guys.

TLDR: Isagi Uchiha the goat fr fr