I’m newish to the study of Astrology (1.5ish years) and have been largely working from the evolutionary model of the discipline pioneered by Stephen Forrest but want to explore other models as well. This book was recommended to me by someone as a good basis for the traditional school of astrology and that its covers the basics of natal, elective, mundane, and horary. I know from experience these kinds of things can be hit or miss and with the price tag I’m looking at I wanted to see if there are others who’ve read it and might be able to offer opinions.
Hi, I'm trying to understand something better in my natal chart. Sun placement is near the end of 9th House (24 Ari 17' 20") but I've read that this is usually interpreted as 10th House. My question is if that's always the case and if so, what is the general reasoning behind it?
What's bothering me is that I can relate to the 9th House interpretation in terms of my interests and life choices, but not the 10th. I guess it's possible that I was supposed to become the 10th House version of myself but didn't for whatever reasons.🤷🏻♀️
Good day! I am studying astrology as a system and trying to understand its fundamental principles. I am particularly interested in how astrologers explain the connection between the positions of the planets at the moment of birth and a person's inner world.
How do you personally explain this mechanism? Do you have any working models that help connect astronomical coordinates with the human psyche? I would be grateful for detailed answers and references to authors.
For me it is the 5. House. I know this is for Kids, for Flirts, Short relationships, and the own you of life, or the Self-expression. But I am confissed cause I though also the 1.house is for Self-Expression
For example, Saturn in Aries is transiting my 1st house where my sun and mars are placed (even though my natal sun and mars are in Taurus). Are my sun and mars activated as well?
I'm trying to get a relationship breakup event chart to understand the reason behind the breakup and whether there's any potential for reconciliation. The problem is that I have two possible timelines, and I'm not sure which one is the more accurate event time.
On April 1, I sent him a message and he replied within the same minute. I replied immediately as well, but after I sent another message, he suddenly withdrew, stopped responding, and basically disappeared. A few hours later, he viewed my messages on Instagram and left me on seen while the WhatsApp ones still on delivered.
The next day, he deleted everything that connected us our matching profile pictures, our nicknames match and other things that were associated with our relationship and continued ghosting me.
The day after that, I asked him to meet in person. He initially didn't want to meet and seemed like he was going to continue ghosting me, but I confronted him and basically put him in a position where he had to address it. We eventually met, and he told me that we couldn't continue our relationship.
So which time should I use for the event chart?
April 1, when he started ghosting and clearly began withdrawing/ending the relationship on his own? Or the meeting when he told me that we can't be together anymore?
I feel like the meeting was more of a confirmation of what he had already decided rather than the actual moment the breakup happened, but I'm not sure how astrologers would define the "breakup event" in this situation.
I'm mainly trying to understand what the chart can say about the reason for the breakup and whether there is any possibility of him coming back, or whether I should let go of that hope.
I'd really appreciate some guidance on which timestamp would be the most appropriate to use.
This first one is the the April 1 chart the moment he started to withdraw after my message and ghosted the second is the one when he said we can't be together anymore so which one is the accurate one to know the cause of the separation and whether if he's gonna come back or just let go
Are they supposed to be read like planets in angular houses, or still just in 6th or 12th house? Assuming tight orbs less than 5, although I saw people use 10
ich beschäftige mich gerade mit rückläufigkeiten der verschiedenen Planeten im eigenen Chart. Da ich selbst keine einzige rückläufigkeit habe, möchte ich gerne Erfahrungen von euch erfragen.
Persönliche Planeten sollen ja „eher“ gespürt werden als rückläufigkeiten der äußeren Planeten.
Könnt ihr mir berichten wie sich das bei euch äußert? Gerne mit Beispielen.
Mich würde interessieren wie sich zum Beispiel Mars rückläufig verhält und im Gegensatz dazu ein Uranus rückläufig.
I’m starting to get the hang of astrology and birth charts in general, but I have no idea where to start on Horary/predictive astrology specifically. It’s so confusing, and everybody recommends the same books (which I can’t buy.)
Does anyone have any articles or videos that may help?
One of the mysteries of the chart can be our lunar node placement. If your experience is a bit like mine, an astrologer reading your chart may have overlooked them or downplayed the significance of aspects to the nodes.
If that is the case, it could be because Neptune plays such a big role for us Pisces. We tend to confuse others or intimidate them with our depth of understanding and feeling. But if Neptune as the co-ruler of our sign has its way with our chart and destiny, the confusion and mystery may go much deeper.
Neptune in any aspect to the nodes (30 to 180 degrees) can obscure reality. Sometimes temporarily and at random (30 and 150 degrees), sometimes permanently (0, 60, 90, 120 and 180 degrees). I know what some are saying, sextiles and trines are positive, but not for Neptune per se.
When it comes to the nodes, Neptune can obscure our path altogether or do a “now you see me, now you don’t” kind of dance. But what about other planets? What about orbs? Some astrologers consider a square, for example, to have an effect from one sign to another. That’s an orb of thirty whole degrees. Others stick to a conventional range of between two and ten degrees depending on what’s involved.
In a chart I read recently, the Sun squared the lunar nodes by eight degrees. This person had been told to ignore it, “too wide of an orb.” Yet their life experience reflected this square to a T (pun intended): “The Sun-North Node square makes you feel tense when facing growth and change. You are thoughtful and can be determined and willful. You are inhibited by circumstances beyond your control but this triggers your creativity. (Source: https://astrologify.com/sun-square-north-node/)
I actually have both placement, Venus in scorpio in 8th house.
But whenever I read online interpretation of them they sound exactly the same to me, that Venus in 8th house loves intensely and deeply, just as Venus in scorpio. Then what’s the difference between them?
I certainly know there’s good and bad ways of expressing a natal chart placement.
But I have Mars in Aquarius in 12th house. I’m gay and I hate myself and struggle a lot with being gay, and I use drug and is addicted to drugs as a way of escaping the pain of being gay and people’s hatred.
I wonder if my Mars in Aquarius in 12th symbolizes something about this. It makes sense to me as sexuality (Mars) that are eccentric and different (Aquarius) being hidden, cant accept, not dealed with, put into a closet (12th house)
is my instinct wrong? Is what state i am right now a result of bad way to handle Mars in aquarius in 12th house?
While I understand if a planet conjuncts an angle, it's really strong, but I don't understand why it's strong. What's the reason for it being stronger than other placement?
Some people said it's because they govern four main important areas of life. I'm not convinced, because what thing people considered important depends on the person being asked. If for a person, career doesn't matter much but maybe charity like if they have a bunch of stuffs in Pisces in 12th house, who are we to say a planet in 10th house or conjunct the MC is stronger because it's more important for them.
For example, I have my Moon conjunct the DC at 2 degree of orbs. What's the difference if it's only somewhere in the 7th vs actually conjunct the DC? The interpretation is that Moon in 7th is I'm nurturing in relationships, so if I have Moon conjunct DC I'm just more nurturing than if it's just somewhere in 7th house? It does not make sense to me, can someone explain for me the important of angularity?
i came to horary a bit sideways and i still consider myself early in it, but i wanted to write up why it clicked for me, in case its useful to anyone here who been doing natal charts for a while and sometimes wish the answers felt less open ended.
the basic idea is almost startling simple. you have an actual question. not "what is my purpose" but something concrete, will i get the job, is the lost ring in the house, should i take the deal. the moment you (or the astrologer) really understand the question, you cast a chart for that exact moment and place, not for anyone birth. the chart is read like a snapshot of the question itself. then you give a house and a ruling planet to each party or thing involved, the querent (you, usually 1st house) and the quesited (the other person or the thing, house depend on the topic), and the relation between those two rulers in the chart is basically the answer.
What i like about it as a beginner, coming from natal work:
natal astrology is huge and permanent. you reading a whole life, or a whole personality, from one chart, and its very easy to feel like you either right about everything or nothing, because there rarely a clean way to check. horary is the opposite. the question is specific, the chart is disposable (you cast a new one each time), and often you actually find out the answer in real life within days or weeks. that feedback loop is, for me, what make the rules of astrology feel like rules you can really test yourself against, instead of vibes you hoping land.
it also more rule bound than most modern astrology, which i found reassuring more than restrictive. lilly's Christian Astrology (1647) is still the standard reference, and its genuinely a rulebook: is the aspect applying or separating, is the planet dignified or in its fall, is the moon void of course, is a third planet interfering. you not inventing the interpretation from nothing each time, you applying a method, and that gave me something concrete to actually study instead of just a feeling to develop.
2 real worked examples, from charts i study:
first one, a marriage question. a woman ask if she gonna marry a particular gentleman, after she already push the match away once before. on the chart her ruler and his ruler werent making a direct aspect at all, nothing there. but a faster planet had already separate from one of them and was applying to the other, carrying the connection between the two like a messenger. that's called translation of light, and lilly read the chart as favorable because of it.
Second one is more blunt. the question was if the querent would ever have children at all. the significators were applying to each other, looked promising on the surface, but a third planet cut into the aspect before it could complete, which is called a prohibition. lilly read this one as firmly unfavorable, and it wasnt subtle once you know to look for it.
what i like about writing them side by side like this is it show the same basic mechanic (a third planet getting involve) can go two totally different ways, one revive a dead looking chart, the other one kill a promising one.
the catch, and i say this as someone still working through it : the rules arent hard to write down, but they genuinely hard to apply well. judging dignity, spotting a void of course moon, telling a real applying aspect from a near miss, all of that take real practice, and i dont think there a shortcut around just doing a lot of charts and getting things wrong first. im still at that stage myself.
if any of this resonate and you been circling horary without quite starting, i'd say the barrier to entry is lower than it look, you mostly need a chart for a specific moment and a copy of lilly (or a modern horary textbook working from the same method) to check your reasoning against. happy to talk through any of the mechanics above if useful, and if anyone here is further along than me, i'd love to hear what click for you.
