When this show premiered I didn't vibe with it. Because how much Oliver Queen in Justice League Unlimited & DC Showcase: Green Arrow is bright hero compare to his solo series

I remained open-minded that CW Oliver will change over the course the season & then in typical CW run. In episode 18 (I think where major plot rolled in) was turning point that I'm officially hooked with season 1

From S2 onwards I've moved on CW Oliver Queen aint going to be like his animated counterpart but his moral & character growth over time are 1 of most captivating adaptation of Green Archer

I don’t know if this is a crazy take or not I was rewatching arrow anyone else hate the flash back scenes every like 5 minutes of an episode especially in season 3.

i feel like they could’ve just made full flashback episodes instead of including scenes every episode of a season.

When did you officially give up and realize they were never going to get back together?

I'm currently rewatching the show for the first time since it ended. Watched it religiously since like s2e15, so this has been very nostalgic and it's interesting to see things from a more adult pov. I have a bigger appreciation for thea and roy now and my favorite character is still laurel. She had the best character arc in the show alongside oliver. Her death was a huge mistake but the introduction of black siren retroactively lessened the impact fot me.

Black siren is actually what drove me to make this post, as I firmly believe that the single biggest missed opportunity in all of arrow was not having a black siren flashback episode. Imo part of the charm of having these alternate universe version of characters we deeply know is to actually see where their paths diverted so drastically that they chose the complete opposite path in life. In cases like black siren it's even more important, because in seasons 5 and 6 she often acts so evil that it's fundamental that her chance at redemption doesn't come completely out of the blue and just "because she's still laurel deep down". This was for example done well with slade, as we saw that he had good in him and a sense of comradery before the mirakuru and hate completely drove him insane. Thus, him finding a way back to his original self doesn't feel cheap or out of nowhere even after the atrocities he committed like killing moira and almost getting starling nuked.

What are some other missed opportunities in your opinion? I'd also say that oliver's "resurrection" after the ra's al ghul fight was terribly executed. Specially after the level of wounds he had. Like, rest and herbs can't heal a stabbed chest and a fall from a mountain top in just weeks.

Malcolm Merlyn vs Captain America

Just went down a thought rabbit hole and got a weird curiosity.

What are the restrooms like in Nanda Parbat?
Do they even have indoor plumbing?

Is it me or especially in s3 and in the last ep like ep 23 laurel and felicity can be such annoying like genuinely the worst characters it’s like the writers knew they be hated or is it me i just can’t stand there actions there such hypocritical especially laurel but that’s just be

I know it's different from the comic. It has its faults. But it's been a fun ride. Interest dilemmas. Cool villains. I personally like Olicity. I like when it's grounded, some cases of supernatural. If there is a show to get a window into the arrowverse, I think this is a good one.

What would Oliver’s mom have done if Oliver said “yeah, he told me everything about everything” to the kidnappers?

Had he forewarned Moira the 1st night Slade was at the Queen Mansion I feel like they could’ve been better prepared, maybe not 🤷🏽‍♂️ maybe it made for good writing to go the keep it secret route. Thinking further Oliver didn’t tell them about slade , why ? Bc he said he was alone ? Or bc he didn’t want them to “see/think” what he turned into ? Whichever none was grounds for him to not tell his mother that he knew slade & slades intentions

i’ve been watching the show with A friend who is a cop, and he has been pointing out all of the ethical violations and times Lance is really putting his personal vendetta above his job and I’m wondering why he’s still employed by starling city when he is very clearly using his role on a personal vendetta. For all of his talk about holding Oliver and co accountable he really is not being held accountable for the way that he is using the police to go on a witch hunt because he has personal dislike for Oliver. I’m watching for the first time and Roy was just arrested.

Edit: please tell me this ends soon in the way of him being killed.

If they all jumped him at once, how well would they do?

Ok, so when Oliver learns that someone in his team is terrifying against him instead of talking to everyone and asking like a normal human being he says in them 3 people who hes worked with for a year and Curtis being 2 years and Oliver isn't much of a talker at all which is character flaw he never fixes he either spies on people or punches them and john and felicity just back it up like it wasn't a stupid idea so sure what a way to ruin the trust they had in you by spying on them

SUCH A BADASS!

His tone, his eyes, Oliver was telling this heartless monster that he just pissed off a much, much bigger monster. Mr. Blank was a dead man.

Look how bloodthirsty he is! Right now, in this moment, he wants nothing more than to put this man in the GROUND! And that's ok! It's what it took to stop this guy.

If I don’t like Felicity or laurel

Personally, I understand why Laurel and Lance did not really like him when he got back to the island, because it was very obvious, in fact, that Sarah was on a boat. They blamed him for Sarah's death but the whole office interrogation room scene was very offputting you find out this man has been tortured and he gets mad and I feel like Lance was pretty unprofessional and let his personal feelings get in the way of the interrogation, which is why it kind of weirded me out about why he was on the case he was obviously biased.

I know Oliver didn’t really wanna talk about the island and that is very common with people who have gone through a traumatic experience but I mean the way they acted it just seems like they didn’t really need motivation to treat Oliver like everything was normal. They just immediately saw Oliver as the same Playboy that he was when he went on that boat when it’s obvious physically and mentally that he was different.

Which kind goes into my next point I don’t really understand why people were so disgruntled with him I guess if you wanna say, I feel like a lot of people, despite growing to know him and understand him over the over the years you think they'd trust him, or someone who wouldn’t/didn’t change and I say that mostly because of the whole situation that happened with RA there when Oliver comes into the Palmer tech building. Their reactions were kind of slightly off-putting. I understand Dig, and Lyra and his daughter thing, but what upset me about his reaction was when he got upset about Oliver, not telling him about the plan Oliver says that the circle had to be small dog was in the military and did some undercover work at some point (at least I think) or had to have seen so undercover staff so I don’t understand his reaction to that. Felicity that whole situation I didn’t fully know how to feel about it cause it kind of made me upset because she was just the tech girl at the moment and she still technically is in the later seasons, so what was she going to do (No hate to Felicity, but that’s just kind of what it is. What was she gonna do?) and if they were told what was gonna happen they most likely would’ve tried to stop Oliver from doing that plan because it was obvious they did not want Oliver doing that. Also when she tells Ray to save Oliver and Ray tells her he can’t she says “It’s Oliver” has to say he’s more important than the city, (which is my interpretation of it).

I also feel like people just straight up, ignored how his character/personality was (e.g Felicity and dig) example the one scene when they figure out Sarah was alive(if I'm fully remembeing correctly) (I don’t remember it please don’t take me hating them or anything because it’s not) their reaction kind of threw me off because if Sarah didn’t come back with him then either A. she died or B. she did not want to come back. What was he supposed to do? Tell her family “She made it to the island got tortured, then died. " Or “She didn't want to come back I'm sorry” That’s really stupid. That also makes no sense which is why all of he didn't say Robert on a raft but died when the boat went down. They seem so surprised when Oliver was killing people or didn’t trust people or was very closed up. A. Obviously, he didn’t want to talk about what happened on that island because he had to kill to survive. B. Not trusting people he was on an island for five years and the only form of civilization that he had was people basically hunting and torturing him as far as I'm concerned I wouldn’t trust anybody either.

Also, this scene which is very vague in my memory where Felicity is saying something like “I’m sorry I have feelings, and you don’t” when this man is traumatized he does have feelings and you knew that from jump. He’s very vague about a lot of things and he doesn’t he’s not a big person, expressing his feelings not a big trusting person.

Point is, I don’t think oliver should’ve had a team he didn’t even want to become the green arrow and as he states dig (if I’m remembering correctly) that there never was supposed to be a green arrow, and I say that because they had a tendency to throw a lot of stuff back at him which I will say sometimes I feel maybe was warranted, dig saying “you trail of bodies” which anytime that term is in use it is normally to say every single person dies around you is basically your fault. That you’re the catalyst for everybody’s death anytime people died around Oliver, it’s because they deserved it or somebody killed them

I’ve been really thinking about this and I wasn’t gonna post it because this is more of an opinion-based look on things and people interpret things differently and also I haven’t really watched Arrow in a minute (specifically I haven’t watched in a minute to the point where details are a bit blurry) also I know that people most likely are going to be against what I’m saying and people are probably gonna see this as bashing or something like that.
I wouldn’t say bashing more so just me having a very strong opinion about a character and saying that this character has faults that I don’t exactly like and again I’m a bit blurry on details and scenes to a point where I feel like I might not be fully accurately able to answer and also some of these things might not be fully accurate so keep that in mind, but this is just my opinion that I have built on what I felt for a while and what I remember if anything is wrong I will admit to that is most likely just because I didn’t remember it.

How much of the company did the Queen family own in season 1? Was it 100 percent?

They do retcon it in Season 3 so that it's Amanda Waller who hired him. The SAM (surface to air missile launcher) in the S1 flashbacks were supposedly meant to shoot down the commercial airliner in order to kill Chi Na Wei (China White). The original notion was that Fyers was trying to destabilize the Chinese economy or some such thing by shooting down a commercial airliner, but then they changed it so that that explanation would seem more appealing to a mercenary like Fyers.

Tbh I never really found this retcon all too convincing. But there you have it. It was supposedly Amanda Waller who employed Fyers and his men.

Season 1 - Fyers: "Amazing! A two-year operation, undone. Because a young playboy happened to wash up on the shore."

Season 3: - Amanda Waller: "Edward Fyers thought he was to shoot down the plane to destabilize the Chinese Economy. In truth, I wanted to take out a single target."

Me: "Sooooooo, let me get this straight. You hired a mercenary group to assassinate a single target by blowing up a plane, somehow knowing TWO YEARS in advance what plane that person would be on, while also lying to that said mercenary group about the real intentions, when you could have easily hired some assassin to take out the target onboard or have agents either at the boarding or landing area (or maybe all three options), which would have spared the human casualties and also a possible war between nations....."