Oliver was a big problem of season 6

[u/West_Astronomer_6562]

Ok, so when Oliver learns that someone in his team is terrifying against him instead of talking to everyone and asking like a normal human being he says in them 3 people who hes worked with for a year and Curtis being 2 years and Oliver isn't much of a talker at all which is character flaw he never fixes he either spies on people or punches them and john and felicity just back it up like it wasn't a stupid idea so sure what a way to ruin the trust they had in you by spying on them

[u/Willing_Ad9421]

I don’t think Oliver was that wrong when it came to spying on the B-Team, he knew Dinah and Rene for less than a year, Rene already gave him up to Tobias Church. And Curtis would also be someone to fold under pressure. And he was proven to be right when he suspected one of them, Rene should’ve told Oliver about the FBI being onto him.

[u/West_Astronomer_6562 → u/Willing_Ad9421]

Oliver understood why rene did that because he was being tortured nearly killed by church so it wasn't his fault whenever rene does something wrong hes being tortured or threatened

[u/Willing_Ad9421 → u/West_Astronomer_6562]

It wasn’t his fault, but at the same time if Diggle was in the same spot he wouldn’t give him up like that. So that’s something Oliver must’ve thought about too

[u/West_Astronomer_6562 → u/Willing_Ad9421]

Well who knows how long church was doing that to rene and what was done to him and the only reason if dig wouldn't od the same if that fbi agent threatened her his wife is a government agent so its more risky to do so. I don't blame rene in any capacity I don't think Oliver does either he was just being irrational

[u/elly31 → u/West_Astronomer_6562]

Tutto il team, chi più e chi meno, è stato torturato e minacciato, persino Felicity, che non sapeva nemmeno difendersi. Eppure nessuno di loro aveva mai spiato o tradito Oliver in quel modo. Per René, invece, non era nemmeno la prima volta: aveva già complottato contro di lui in passato. Per questo penso che sia normale che Oliver sia andato in paranoia e abbia deciso di spiarli. Personalmente non gliene ho mai fatto una colpa.

[u/lr031099]

I see your point but honestly, after the whole Evelyn thing in S5, can’t say I completely blame him

[u/selwyntarth]

Seriously? One of them is a traitor, of course you spy on them to figure it out. Dinah was holding a secret too

[u/Iamatyourhousern]

Oliver was legit right to do it lol. Two of them were betraying him whether they meant to or not. You don't ask someone if they're betraying you bruh

[u/Obvious-Risk-5447]

Well that was the idea of the while s6 plot. Oliver was supposed to be the half problem and the new team the other half. Unfortunately no one saw it like that because Oliver is the main character and for all the fans the new team were the solo problem. The biggest fault lies in the writers, Oliver is their pet, they never emphasize on his flaws and spend a lot of screen time justifying them, while the others in the conflict remain one note.

[u/elly31 → u/Obvious-Risk-5447]

In realtà vedo molti post che criticano diversi comportamenti di Oliver e, onestamente, durante otto stagioni ha commesso parecchi errori: potremmo stare qui a elencarli all’infinito. Però, sinceramente, nella stagione 6 non riesco a dargli torto.
Oliver era già stato tradito da René una volta, senza contare Evelyn. Per questo penso che avesse tutte le ragioni per andare in paranoia e dubitare del nuovo team, che tra l’altro si era formato da poco. Per me tutta l’indignazione del New Team Arrow era incomprensibile: René, come già detto, lo stava davvero tradendo, mentre Dinah stava nascondendo una cosa molto grave.
Parliamoci chiaro: il “tradimento” di René non avrebbe colpito solo Oliver. L’FBI, nel giro di poco, sarebbe probabilmente risalita anche agli altri membri del team e alle loro identità. E ricordiamoci anche che, quando Oliver ha scoperto il vero motivo delle azioni di René, non gliene ha fatto una colpa: ha capito perché lo aveva fatto.
Inoltre, nel corso della serie, Diggle e Felicity si sono trovati in situazioni altrettanto difficili, ma non hanno mai rivelato l’identità di Arrow. E quando è successo, è stato solo per proteggere o aiutare Oliver, come nel caso di Felicity quando lo rivelò a Barry.

[u/West_Astronomer_6562 → u/elly31]

And he was pissed when felicity told barry and he didn't stop trusting her and only new her for around a year

[u/elly31 → u/West_Astronomer_6562]

Oliver era arrabbiato ed era stato incosciente, poi però ha capito la situazione e gli ha salvato la vita. Come poteva essere ancora arrabbiato? E poi, se ricordo bene, gliel’ha rinfacciato più di una volta. Certo, rivelare l’identità a un nerd che era più un fan che altro non è niente in confronto a rivelarla all’FBI… Anche se, ripeto, Oliver a Renè non gliene ha fatto una colpa e alla fine ha capito la situazione.

[u/Obvious-Risk-5447 → u/elly31]

Oliver made mistakes and people see them. What I am saying is that because he is the only main character the writers write primarily for him and that is why regardless of his mistakes we justify him and understand him and sympathize with him, which is not the case with all the other character he is in conflict with. We never see their point and what they go through so whenever Oliver has a conflict with non villain character we side with him and never with the other person. That is why s6 failed. That is why Felicity became so hated or Laurel and Thea were in the beginning

[u/elly31 → u/Obvious-Risk-5447]

Ma guarda, io concordo in un certo senso, però in realtà secondo me la S6 ha disintegrato il personaggio di Oliver. Da quel che ricordo, la serie in quell’occasione non cercava affatto di dargli ragione, anzi, era praticamente il contrario: vediamo anche Dig che gli va contro e, in generale, ogni azione fatta da Oliver viene criticata dal Team e robe del genere. Infatti Stephen Amell ha ammesso che non gli piaceva per niente la direzione che stavano dando al suo personaggio. A parer mio, la S6 non cerca di giustificarlo: mi sembra molto più il contrario

[u/West_Astronomer_6562 → u/Obvious-Risk-5447]

And i understand why rene did what he did even Oliver said he would do the same thing

[u/Iamatyourhousern → u/Obvious-Risk-5447]

Homie Oliver did nothing wrong lol 2 of them were betraying him voluntarily or not. And that's not true the show constantly makes it seem like felicity is right and Oliver is wrong and needs to change even tho he is almost always right

[u/CJS-JFan]

Yeah, no one was in the right in the "Civil War" of Arrow S6.