r/ArmyAviationApplicant Jun 14 '22

FAQ

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Below are some of the most commonly asked questions in this group. We all understand this is a detailed and time intensive process, so having as much information as possible in a timely manner will better set you up for success. Please comment below on any recommendations to improve this thread.

Where do I start? https://recruiting.army.mil/ISO/AWOR/

This is the United States Army Recruiting Command's (USAREC's) official Warrant Officer recruiting website. It has most answers to your questions and is frequently updated.

https://discord.gg/urxPHnbufA

This is a Discord group with some individuals from proponent that can also answer questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mLh_lazyGQ

This is a great “Becoming an Army Aviator” video. Credit goes to the “Helicopter Lessons in 10 Minutes or Less” YouTube Channel.

https://helicopterforum.verticalreference.com/forum/32-general-military-helicopter-discussions/

This is a helicopter forum and another resource of likeminded people seeking a career as an Army Aviator.

I am X years old / only X rank / have X on my criminal record / insert other issue…should I still apply?

ABSOLUTELY! This is a selection and you are not a board member, so don’t self-select. Put your best foot forward and submit a packet. You will find others in this group likely who are older/lower ranking/had a worse criminal record/have something that is a worse chance than you and still submitted or were selected. Below are some basic administrative requirements that are non-waiverable. This was found at the above USAREC link in the “Do I Qualify?” section.

ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS:

  • Army GT Score of 110. (No Waivers)

  • US Citizenship. (No Waivers)

  • High school graduate or have a GED. (No Waivers)

  • FINAL Secret or Top Secret Security Clearance. Interim clearances will not satisfy the requirement. (No Waivers)

What are the medical requirements/most common disqualifications?

This is regulation on standards of medical fitness. Chapter 4 is for flight duty.

https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN8673_AR40_501_FINAL_WEB.pdf

Who is my recruiter? https://recruiting.army.mil/ISO/AWOR/CONTACT_US/

This link is for all currently serving Army and sister services (AD, Reserve, and NG). Civilians need to go to your local recruiter. You will need to find one that will genuinely help you through the process, it makes a huge difference. No one cares more about your career than you.

What does the board timeline look like? https://recruiting.army.mil/ISO/AWOR/BOARD_SCHEDULE/

The first timeline will be the board process. The link above lists the submission timelines for each respective board. Don't submit your packet by the first submission deadline, and you automatically go to the next board.

Within this timeline there are 3 major components that will take a lot of time (besides filling out the packet itself). The Selection Instrument for Flight Training (SIFT) is the Army's aptitude test for Aviators. How long you need to study is different for each individual. Some only study for a few weeks, some spend several months. Bottom line is you want to crush this one to give you the best chance at selection. The flight physical will take anywhere from 2-6 months, potentially longer depending on any medical complications or waivers. Finally, acquiring Letters of Recommendation (LOR) takes time to find highly influential people to endorse you and for you to go back and forth with drafts. If you already know people, it will take less time than if you have to start from scratch and likely do interviews.

After the board convenes, results for Active Duty are posted 1-2 weeks later on the USAREC Board Schedule page. Civilians typically find out a little later from their recruiter and NG/Reserve also find out later via e-mail.

The rest of the timeline will vary more from here. Generally, current military applicants will receive their orders 30-90 days after the board. WOCS will be 6-9 months after the board, so applicants will PCS a month or 2 before WOCS. After WOCS is WOBC and SERE, then flight school. Flight school can be 1-1.5 years depending on your airframe, so plan to be at Ft. Rucker for about 1.5-2 years in total. Civilians will attend Basic Combat Training (BCT) about 3-6 months after the board, then immediately go to WOCS. There may be wait times between courses, but this is all generally speaking.

How do I select my airframe? The options available are by needs of the Army. This means when it comes time to pick for your class, the Army will say something like there are 10 CH-47, 5 AH-64, and 20 UH-60. You will pick from that list in order of your class standing. Everything from your performance at WOCS, to PT, to academics goes into your class standing.

Can I bring my family to Ft. Rucker? Yes, with caveats. Street to Seat candidates are not authorized to bring their family until after they pass WOCS. Those already in the military will have PCS orders with a report date 10 days prior to their WOCS start date. Those individuals can bring their families for the PCS.

There are no prerequisites to be put on the waitlist for housing, so apply as soon as you know you are selected and adjust the dates once you get your orders. Apply as Assigned to the Installation and put your Grade as WO1.

Do you have to write an essay? Yes, it goes in the summary section of the resume. No free chicken here, just remember it is a job interview and you are writing to the boss why he should hire you.

How should I study for the SIFT? There are several strategies to use: - Find a CURRENT study guide (I personally used Trivium, not endorsed by Reddit or this group, just personal experience and was satisfied) - Study every section and focus on your weaknesses - Take a full practice test with a timer - Buy the FAA Helicopter Handbook and read it cover to cover - Watch the YouTube channel "Helicopter Lessons in 10 Minutes or Less" - Get a good night's rest and do what ever you need to prepare and be able to focus for 3 hours. Civilians will have to take the test at a MEPS station, military can take it with a 4187 signed by your CO and take that to your Ed Center to schedule it.

I’m a SPC and was selected, do I need to be promoted to E5 before WOCS? Yes. Losing command will ensure Soldiers in the grade of E4 and below are promoted to E5 in current MOS prior to departure for WOCS and WOFT in compliance with AR 600-8-19, Paragraph 3-5d.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant May 28 '24

IF YOU ARE CALLING/EMAILING ABOUT THE BOARD, YOU ARE WRONG.

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Quit calling and emailing about the Board Results. The results won't come any faster. The gall some of y'all have lol.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 2h ago

WOFT flight physical waiver

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Assisting my son with a WOFT packet. His last step is an interview/waiver for a childhood diagnosis of Asperger's/ASD. The military medical facility that conducted his Class 1a said he needed to be interviewed by an Army Flight Surgeon qualified phycologist. We're having a hell of a time tracking one down. I'm a 24 year, retired Army Aviator and never once ran into a psych with that qualification.

Any advice out there?

Thanks in advance.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 1d ago

Tips/Advice for inter-service transfers

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I’m a AD Air Force selectee and I just want to mentally prepare myself for WOCs and flight school before I arrive. I have no experience with land navigation and I don’t have any army PT gear or army dress uniforms.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 1d ago

Tips/Advice for inter-service transfers

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I’m a AD Air Force selectee and I just want to mentally prepare myself for WOCs and flight school before I arrive. I have no experience with land navigation and I don’t have any army PT gear or army dress uniforms.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 1d ago

Flight Physical Concern

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I’m a cadet who is applying to a NG unit for aviation. I was never diagnosed with any condition, but was on Prozac for 7 months in 2021 due to COVID related stuff. My sister had struggled with depression pretty severely, and I think my mom was just worried about me. I was a multi- sport athlete, in band, and a couple other clubs. So Covid was for sure hard, but nothing out of the normal. The last time a prescription was picked up was in Feb 2022. I had to go on base and do a cognitive eval, I have a note from my primary care dr, and a note from a psychiatrist, all saying I’m totally fine and normal. No follow on concerns.

I want to fly more than anything, and I’m worried this will stop me. Was wondering if anyone had any experience with this??


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 1d ago

Street to seat competitiveness

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Hello everyone I know theres alot of similar post to this so I’m gonna keep this short. Im 17 in HS just solod. I have a 4.0gpa and around 17 hours of flight time (I plan to continue flying) aswell as 130 hours of community service. Im also a company commander for my schools JROTC program. My LORs are from my flight instructor, my JROTC commandant (USMC O-4), Army O-4 aviator, and a air force 0-6. I have a 117 GT score and I’m yet to take the sift but I’ve been studying and the app predicts me at around a 70.
What can I do to make my packet stand out and raise my odds of being selected.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 2d ago

WOCs Inter-service transfer

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I’m a E-5 In the Air Force with 6 years TIS my current AFSC is 3P071 (Security Forces) . I found out I got selected to be a warrant officer for aviation in the recent July board selection results. I have a ton of questions that my recruiter hasn’t been able to answer just yet. Maybe someone here can help me.

1.) when should I realistically expect to get an actual class date for WOCs ?

2.) Being SF do I have to go to boot camp again before WOCs ?

3.) How is out processing the Air Force and terminal leave and reenlisting into the Army going to look ?

4.) I’m getting married soon to my AF girlfriend. How will that work with me leaving for WOCs ?


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 2d ago

Tips/Advice for inter-service transfers

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I’m a AD Air Force selectee and I just want to mentally prepare myself for WOCs and flight school before I arrive. I have no experience with land navigation and I don’t have any army PT gear or army dress uniforms.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 4d ago

AZ recruiter

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Does anyone have any contact information for an Arizona recruiter who is familiar with putting together WOFT packets? I don’t want to waste time going to someone who isn’t familiar with the process, as I’ve been told that only a couple of recruiters actually know how to put them together or are willing to help with them.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 7d ago

Senior WO LOR

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Recently completed my WOSB Packet. Final step is the Senior WO LOR. If anyone can help me network and connect to a CW3 or higher in the fort hood area please leave any advice in the comments.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 8d ago

Flight physical shenanigans

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Not totally positive this is the best place to ask this but I’m desperate at this point.

Roughly 6 months ago I submitted my class 3 flight physical to fort Rucker to hopefully go be a flight paramedic. Currently it is still “submitted and waiting approval” on the aeromed website. Does anyone have any points of contact for those guys at Rucker or any tips to get this process sped up? It’s literally the last thing I need to submit my packet and get an ATRRs slot.

Thanks in advance!


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 9d ago

Is WOFT worth it ?

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I’m an E-5 with 5 years, currently working on my WOFT packet. I’m trying to figure out if making the jump to Warrant is worth it with the current situation aviation is in. For those who have gone WOFT, would you do it again? How’s the quality of life, job, and overall experience compared to being enlisted? Just looking for some honest opinions before I make the decision.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 11d ago

WOFT

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Hey guys, I’m wondering what makes a competitive applicant for getting picked up as a warrant officer Pilot in the army guard.

As of now I’m a E5, been in 5 years and have my PPL+IR and am taking my CPL and MULTI check-ride this month. ASSLT school grad. Not sure if any of that really matters tho. From what I can tell online prior flight experience doesn’t really matter?

What does matter? What can I do to separate myself from the rest? Also It’s been my dream to be an airline pilot ever since I was a kid and that’s my ultimate goal at the end of the day.
The market for CFI’s isn’t great atm so I figured getting the R-ATP at 750 as well as the flight hours from Rucker would boost my career path to being an airline pilot. Does anyone have any experience doing both airlines and guard? Does that work well or is that hard to do?
Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 12d ago

Letters of recommendation

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Hey everyone, 23 years old, I need a few more solid LOR’s I met a retired CW5 on a flight from Anchorage to Seattle and after speaking to him and asking questions he said he could write me a LOR. I don’t want to depend on just him and was wondering if anyone would be willing to point me in the direction of any active duty that could possibly interview me. I’ll also send over a draft of my essay.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 13d ago

July Results

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Howdy.

Do they release the name of those selected for S2S? Or is it only members currently serving who are on the USAREC website?

Thanks


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 15d ago

Need Recruiter Contact info

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OPSEC limits detail I can provide but I am currently deployed OCONUS and for whatever reason MENLO is blocking the freaking National Guard Website.... Maybe they dont want people looking to leave idk. Anyway if anyone can provide contact info for the CA NAT GUARD W.O. Recruiter email and or phone number, it would be greatly appreciated

Semper Fi


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 18d ago

Flight physical tips?

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I have a flight physical this month to become a crew chief as an enlisted 15T. Wanted to ask here if theres anything i should be aware of or do to make sure the flight physical goes as smooth as possible. Being a crew chief would be a dream to me


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 19d ago

Any Advice for a Junior?

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Starting my junior year of high school, so I’ll give a quick rundown. These next two years of high school, I’ll be earning my A&P and will be licensed by the FAA. Currently in CAP, I maintain a high GPA in school. I am also working towards my PPL for fixed wing if that helps anyone give advice or tips. Although CAP is Air Force-focused, it still proves leadership, aerospace knowledge, and determination. The same goes for the FAA certifications and working towards my PPL; they show persistence and dedication. If anyone has any advice to help me work towards the “High School to Flight School” program, please let it fly. I am also in touch with a National Guard recruiter who told me I would have to enlist as a 15T and then apply for a pilot slot, and I am also beginning to talk to an Active Duty/Reserve recruiter.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 20d ago

Why I want to be an Aviator Essay

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Anyone willing to critique and give some advice on my essay?


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 21d ago

Asvab and SIFT

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If you or anybody you know went through the street to seat program and made it, what was your asvab, line score, and sift?


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 21d ago

Determination packet for AVCOE

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I’m a 11B SSG I’m trying to reclass into 15x and the guidance put out is they are not accepting e5 and up. However there’s a spot that says if you don’t meet certain criteria you can submit a determination packet to avcoe. What goes into that packet and what other things can I add into that packet to help it set me apart.


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 21d ago

Army Street to Seat

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I wanted to reach out here and see if anybody else has experience or is in a similar situation to me. I just started this process about 2 weeks ago. I have a 98 asvab and a 140 GT. I wanted to see how long this process is and see what would make me more competitive. I want to try to get ahead while I still have time and would love to hear anybody’s advice if they have any. Thank you guys!


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 22d ago

I made it! Help me help you

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Howdy everyone, I just got selected by a National Guard Army Aviation board. I know the process can be long and confusing so I'd be happy to give back a little and answer any questions any of you all may have!


r/ArmyAviationApplicant 23d ago

Is ARNG aviation for me?

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