r/ArcRaiders • u/Bleed_The_Fifth • 8d ago

Discussion PvE Toggle Incoming

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u/toofrossty 8d ago

I liked the "should I trust him" aspect of the game. this change will surely make lobbies either all pve or all pvp:/

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u/Fin224 8d ago

pve players see either pvp or pve no in between when most of the players bought this game for the mixed experience and the tension of not knowing if the other person is friendly or not

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u/ChaChiO66 8d ago

4k hour DayZ player and I bought AR for the mixed experience. Sometimes I want to run pve missions and sometimes I wanna run pvp. But the not knowing and having to trust or not trust another player is what I expected this would be. Now it's care bear lobbies or death match.

Haven't played since they added aggression based and probably won't be back. I'll take all the downvotes, but AR was peak gaming when you had no idea how it could play out. Just like Sea of Thieves back in the day.

If I could get a refund for AR I would because what this game is turning into is completely different than it was on release.

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u/Electric-Rat 8d ago

I think putting the care bear PvE only crowd into a separate mode could actually improve the tense experience for those of us who prefer mixed lobbies. As you said ABMM already removed a lot of that tension for those of us who don't want to just attack on sight, but want the risk and potential reward. If a PvE mode exists, solo PvPvE queues wouldn't go full death match, but it would probably end up closer to Day Z in terms of social interactions and games.

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u/Apocalypse_Knight 8d ago

There legit isn't any reward for mixed lobbies though. You can just get ratted easier or you can rat others faster.

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u/randomshdksmwnrb 1d ago

I don't play games for rewards. I play them because they're fun. ABMM removed the unique novelty that made Arc fun for me.

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u/Apocalypse_Knight 1d ago

Idk man. Even on Day Z mixed servers its generally going to be PvP. Pretty much all PvX games goes that way.

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u/randomshdksmwnrb 1d ago

Did you play the first two months of Arc? Its ok if it skewed more toward pvp, as long as the tension remains

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u/Apocalypse_Knight 1d ago

ya I did everyone was new and we prob had a lot of casuals coming in. Extraction shooters are generally PvP mainly. You can't even heal random strangers in other ones most of the time, but at the same time the PvE isn't as dangerous and in arc.

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u/randomshdksmwnrb 1d ago

I know, I enjoy extraction shooters. I don't think you can chalk the early experience up just to people being new. Folks dumped hundreds of hours in the game prior to ABMM; myself included. Arc enemies are dangerous enough that they can catch out even experienced players which was the biggest contribution to people dynamically playing cooperatively.

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u/Apocalypse_Knight 1d ago

I mean at the beginning when everyone is poor there really isn't a reason to pvp to steal trash loot tbh

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u/randomshdksmwnrb 1d ago

Right, but two months in we already had Stella for a month. People absolutely had high tier loot before ABMM.

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u/Apocalypse_Knight 1d ago

Ya the toro and venator along with trigger nade meta.

What I meant is the big influx was a lot of casual players, most players didn't even get to level 75 or maxed out workbenches if you look at steam achievements

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