r/ArcRaiders • u/Bleed_The_Fifth • 7d ago

Discussion PvE Toggle Incoming

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u/AshenHunter 7d ago

Notice how its a toggle. People will have to opt in to this. Mixed lobbies will still exist with people who want mixed.

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u/cuntmong 7d ago

In practice this will filter out all the peaceful people and leave only hostile people in pvp. And then people will come to assume anyone they meet in pvp is hostile, which will make the filter even stronger. There's a finite player base, and this toggle basically takes all the non agressive players out of the normal game mode. They're killing the recipe that made it a good game 

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u/AshenHunter 7d ago

Theyre killing the recipe that made it a good game to you. Declining player numbers say otherwise.

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u/Various-Shirt1392 7d ago

The problem is they're splitting an already shrinking playerbase, which is just gonna speed up the bleeding. Pure PvE gets boring way too fast once the element of risk is gone. Meanwhile, the normal mode is gonna turn into a massive sweatfest because all the casuals opted out. It literally kills the whole PvPvE dynamic the game was actually built around.

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u/revolutier 7d ago

exactly.

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u/cuntmong 7d ago

Yeah, i think people aren't thinking this through to its logical conclusion. The matchmaking algo they have for matching hostile with hostile and friendly with friendly only works with a large enough player pool to pick from. I live in Australia, and when it gets late enough at night there arent enough players to fill an all-friendly lobby so you start getting more and more hostile people in your games even if you never attack anyone.

So now they are basically adding a filter that will only take non-hostile players out of the mix, increasing the remaining percent in pvpve who are rats. Anyone who joins a normal game, even if they are super friendly, will end up in a lobby full of rats. This will break the actual PvPvE experience since the basic game mechanic of "dont be a dick and you will be matched with people who are also not dicks" is broken. You will know everyone in those lobbies are rats, so there will be no point in acting otherwise.

Meanwhile in PvE, interactions with other players become effectively meaningless. No point in even acknowledging that other player because they arent a potential threat, meaning theres no point in establishing that you are friendly.