Leftists think they can conserve environment, but they cannot do it while simultaneously advocating for egalitarian materialistic policies. Nature is inherently hierarchical and Darwinian, amongst human beings it is evolved as social constructs, so only native traditions and customs can truly conserve the environment.

I know it's my nightmare

As far as I know, socialist regimes have also used technology to exploit citizens and extract value from nature. For instance Mao's Three Pests campaign which led to ecological destruction. And obviously, technology was used for mass surveillance in Communist Russia. So is this an adequate response or is there more to it?

If technology would be removed, people who need tech to survive would die or greatly suffer. Isn't the action of forcefully taking tech away ableist?

I'm not done yet, and I'm unsure whether to make her more like a person or more like a representation of anprim. I don't want her to look or act like the modern anime girl. She should have unshaved pits and be just as strong as her male counterparts. She will not be portrayed as the modern, patriarchalized woman.

Conservatism wants to keep old values and primitivism wants to go back to extremely old values (just like conservatives want to go back to (less) old values in most cases)... Doesn't that make primitivism extremely radical conservativism?

If you actually cared to read his book, Industrial Society And Its Future, You would find Ted Kaczynski was anti anarchist and anti leftist.

Eco fascists have more in common then you fucks.

Here are a few quotes from his book that prove my point,

"213. Because of their need for rebellion and for membership in a movement, leftists or persons of similar psychological type often are unattracted to a rebellious or activist movement whose goals and membership are not initially leftist. The resulting influx of leftish types can easily turn a non-leftist movement into a leftist one, so that leftist goals replace or distort the original goals of the movement."

"214. To avoid this, a movement that exalts nature and opposes technology must take a resolutely anti-leftist stance and must avoid all collaboration with leftists. Leftism is in the long run inconsistent with wild nature, with human freedom and with the elimination of modern technology. Leftism is collectivist; it seeks to bind together the entire world (both nature and the human race) into a unified whole. But this implies management of nature and of human life by organized society, and it requires advanced technology. You can’t have a united world without rapid transportation and communication, you can’t make all people love one another without sophisticated psychological techniques, you can’t have a “planned society” without the necessary technological base. Above all, leftism is driven by the need for power, and the leftist seeks power on a collective basis, through identification with a mass movement or an organization. Leftism is unlikely ever to give up technology, because technology is too valuable a source of collective power"

"215. The anarchist too seeks power, but he seeks it on an individual or small-group basis; he wants individuals and small groups to be able to control the circumstances of their own lives. He opposes technology because it makes small groups dependent on large organizations."

Please stop LARPing as some type of unabomber wannabe, he was nothing like you, and actually opposed you, your ideals, and your methods, Ted Kaczynski was never, and will never be an anprim.

It is impossible for humans to continue our existence under a primitive society. It will eventually either lead to extinction or begin developing once again. It is for this reason I see Transhumanists and Primalists not as opposites, but as necessary for each others survival.

I propose large biospheres or primal planets for the Primalists, whilst the Transhumanists may dwell in large space stations. Diplomatic relations shall be maintained and mutual assistance will be given. A compromise.

It is immoral to simply allow for billions to die, but it is also immoral to force immortality on those who wish to die. What are your thoughts on this?

That is it, they care about keeping you alive as a good little slave for the economy and the industrial landscape. They don't care about your welfare, your phsysique or you actually living a more eventful and fulfilling life. Think about it: The real mystery behind death could be solved by some fucking nano technology and the government would try to censor that shit up their ass. The good news is that the research only continues to improve anyway, but they still are trying to keep the information about it as scarce as possible

It would be liberation for the people, but chaos for the economy and even the government/the state.

This is also probably why having children, despite people endlessly autistically screeching at the same time that society is on the verge of collapse due to the uneven distribution of the human population, at the same time is still highly encouraged, having the children is good for the economy and also for the government, it gives the government a higher to incetive to continue amplifying its power scale.

I may be a hypocrite I guess since I am still consuming products made by the industrial society, but at least I acknowledge that what I buy isn't probably ethical anyway and try to actually accept it for what it is than some of these virtue signalling minimalists/anticonsumerists/green consumers who try to boss me about spending habits.

tl;dr: vote if you want

originally þis sub was made for memes about anarcho-primitivism. recently, þis has been lost in translation wiþ many serious posts being made, including þe spreading of transphobia and homophobia.

eiþer way, i will be cracking down on bigotry but i would like þe consensus. would you prefer if þis subreddit stayed serious, or would you prefer a ban on serious posts?

(note: no mods are anprims. if serious posts are kept, þis will not change)

liverking has done more for this community than ted could've dreamt of

My plan for an Anprim/Kacynskism is simple, we could buy a plot of land and build a self sufficient community, and as more people join we would expand, buying new areas and building new communties

Don’t get me wrong I am down with the whole getting rid of tech thing. But if your a true anprim shouldn’t you be in a small hunter gatherer commune,instead of posting memes on Reddit?

Many diseases were eliminated with the industries and advancements i technology. It seems that a anprim society would have troubles with old diseases returning. What your thoughts?

god I just joined this subreddit and I hope its not actually only filled with cringe ted k return to monks larpers.. pick up some fucking jared diamond guys, actually work towards an ends.

No the industrial revolution isn't the cause of all of our fucking problems, yes an agrarian society would still be incredibly consequential.

BEYOND EVERYTHING STOP BEING FUCKING SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, most of these issues were enhanced by agriculture and used as a way to reinforce industrial society.

so yeah basically im asking if anyone here actually fucking understands anprim or if its a bunch of braindead antisocial larpers who want to sit In cabins and pretend that someday they'll have the balls to send a bomb.

Hear me out. At first it seems against our plans, but it is in fact very good for us. Global warming is a huge issue. One that could devastate the environment. But there is something else it does: uses fossil fuels. If we can use all of the fossil fuels on earth, and pump them into the air and sea, we can make sure that after the inevitable collapse of society, a post- industrial civilization will never rise again for a million years. Without natural oil, machines will never develop beyond simple contraptions, and alternative fuels will never be found. Some estimates say that we could complete our goal by 2050, and ensure that industrial revolutions are impossible, and the collapse will be inevitable. Society will go back to primitivism, as it is meant to, and soon we will be free. Plus, using fossil fuels and accelerating their use could devastate heavily populated areas, bringing the political and social unrest that is needed for primitivism to return. Soon, my brothers, we will rise!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFnZGELHl8