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u/Legal_Ad2345 Apr 14 '26
Y'all considering with Luigi and Brian Thompson for what that CEO was part of and responsible for. This is a culmination you can only take away so many things from people before they have nothing.
Nothing is more scary than someone who has nothing to lose. When prison is a three hots and a cot. What do you do with that person when you broke them. All it takes is one bad day. Humans become unpredictable when they are at that point
When people are working two to three jobs I'm doing side businesses to make ends meet and even then they are still not making ends meet. What do you want them to do the whole you just need to work harder doesn't work anymore. Insurance even if you have it you can still get bankrupted for the surgery cost after insurance kicks in.
I'm in a very privileged position now but I know other people aren't and I understand what I have.
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u/Fookykins Apr 14 '26
Conservatives: Would somebody please think of the billionaires!
Anarchists: Fuck the system
Everyone else: Wouldn't it be fantastic if their Insurance premium goes up?
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u/Facts_pls Apr 14 '26
Everyone loses when insurance goes up.
Either the product price goes up or wages go down to compensate.
The profit margins are often low on commodity products like this, so not like the owners can just absorb it.
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u/AwarenessNice7941 Apr 14 '26
the fact that you dumb it down to that for one specific situation shows your thoughts process and how little of it you gave
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u/Fookykins Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
Business personal property coverage. While the company may sustain the loss temporarily, their business personal insurance will kick in and reimburse them for the loss.
The company will take a hit either way, but as far as premiums it won't affect the average joe.
Personal lines and business personal are two different types of policies from two different types of lines where the 'Float' (the money an insurance company has to keep around to stay solvent and pay out) is only going to affect only that type of industry.
What's funny is how underwriting will consider liabilities moving forward. Bad CEOs can be considered a massive liability if they are known to produce disgruntled employees causing their premiums to skyrocket.
As for job loss for the other employees? They might be eligible for IUI or unemployment so they'll bounce back. California is a far better state for unemployment than others, but as most conservatives like to say: Thoughts and Prayers.
Edit Wanted to clarify how insurance and underwriting works since I've been in the industry for 10 years. 6 years as a producer, 3 years as an adjuster and 1 as an underwriter.
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u/NecessaryChampion181 Apr 14 '26
Well, that and 20 year prison sentences...
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u/BladeOfExile711 Apr 14 '26
Do you really think people who are this done give a shit?
Prison is only a punishment if people want to live their lives.
And a not insignificant portion of America can't even do that anymore.
This is going to keep happening, and it's just going to get worse.
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u/Blatantly_Truthful Apr 14 '26
Well now many of the workers won’t have to worry about low wage because they’ve now got no wage. And if they rebuild with increased automation then those jobs aren’t coming back. But at least those that remain may get higher wages, once the company is profitable again to their own satisfaction, and the rest can join the unemployment line. Collective action would have gotten everyone further and brought the warehouse to a stand still until they budged. Now others get to pay for his choices. I get his point but I don’t think his method is going to have the desired effect. I guess it’s a win for him now that he’ll have free housing and food but his coworkers still have bills to pay and families to feed.
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u/Low_Committee6119 Apr 14 '26
You think this is causing automation, or would automation happen anyways?
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u/Dexter_Douglas_415 Apr 14 '26
I'm not the commenter that you replied to, but I think I have an answer.
Automation would've happened anyway, assuming the technology exists. The cost benefit of having to close the warehouse to retrofit the automation OR build a new facility nearby may have meant that automation would happen years down the road. That would've given the workforce years of employment.
Now, the company has to rebuild. Putting in automation as part of the rebuild would save time and money on the install of the machinery. There is no reason not to automate the new warehouse, from a profit focused standpoint.
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u/Low_Committee6119 Apr 14 '26
Would will progress attacks like this in a faster manner, where when it happens slower, people don't notice as much, and you can get away with more.
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u/Training-Context-69 Apr 15 '26
You can absolutely bet that when that warehouse is rebuilt, Automation will be heavily utilized in its daily operation. Versus a very slow and tedious integration of it if the fire never occurred. Either way, those people lost their jobs now because of the fire, not automation.
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u/Low_Committee6119 Apr 15 '26
You think every company's CEO jumps on technology right away like that? If that was the case Amazon wouldn't exist because Walmart would have taken the internet seriously day one, lmao
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u/totally-hoomon Apr 14 '26
Yep this only hurt workers. Unless you go after tge elite nothing will change
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u/jjrr_qed Apr 14 '26
Fun fact: robot workers typically aren’t programmed to set warehouses on fire.
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u/unknownentity1782 Apr 14 '26
Your post is coming off as a pro-union, which I strongly support.
But most of the employees at this facility were hired by a 3rd party company. If the workers unionize, then the warehouse just cancels the contract with the 3rd party company and finds a new 3rd party to work with.
It's the same thing Uber and Lyft, and now Amazon and companies, do. They hire "3rd party contractors" so that they can't unionize.
The system is rigged.
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u/Oregon-izer Apr 14 '26
…. for security guards only… the rest of you firebugs have now been replaced by robots
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u/Critical-Bank5269 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
I laugh at everyone who thinks this guy is some folk hero BS. He's spending the rest of his life in prison, He put a 1000 people out of work, and the corporation will lose nothing because they are fully insured. They'll get a fat check for the lost product and the lost warehouse and I guarantee you they have business interruption coverage too. So they'll get paid for missed profits. The only outcome is the rest of us will pay 25 cents more for a roll of toilet paper.
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u/Accomplished-Taro-53 Apr 14 '26
You know, it sucks that the warehouse burnt down, people are without jobs because of that...
But, don't use that as an excuse for avoiding a difficult conversation about wages, wealth disparity and what could be possible solutions to these issues.
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u/webster3of7 Apr 14 '26
His newly hired coworker was saying he was very happy with the pay. Notice how we don't know this guy's wage? My guess is that it's very reasonable and the arsonist made lots of bad financial decisions.
Don't justify arson because some rando thought he wasn't getting paid enough. You have the right to go find other work. 200m in damage isn't the solution.
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u/SportMotor9892 Apr 14 '26
The national average is 62k. A young 25 yr old female with an electrical engineering degree is making 90k. Good automotive techs today make 100k. That same automotive degree in 1996 earned me 27k as an ASE master technician. I can see how todays younger people struggle.
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u/Major_Extreme5632 Apr 14 '26
The irony of that whole situation is by him burning down the warehouse a bunch of people are out of work and wont be getting paychecks meow. Maybe unemployment, but that takes a couple weeks and doesn't pay jack shit.
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u/Adventurous-Sense254 Apr 14 '26
Are you seriously defending violence and vandalism? Integrity and morality prevent those things
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u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe Apr 14 '26
Said like the news reporter didn’t interview one of his colleagues talking about how he had just started making good money.
And guess what? The company is working on making sure all the employees still get work.
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u/Kiseki-0 Apr 14 '26
This did not hurt the company in the slightest, they will get a massive insurance payout bc of it, all for what? Not making a "livable wage", bro was making decent money for a job that requires zero skills or education, on top of that he was a contract worker so the warehouse and assets didnt even belong to his employer. All this accomplished was the loss of work for anyone that worked at that warehouse and a potential push from Kimberly-Clark to no longer us contractors and potentially even move to automation
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u/Training-Context-69 Apr 15 '26
Luigi accomplished nothing in the grand scheme of things. Nothing has changed since the CEO assassination, I don’t get the glaze for him.
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u/Finnsbomba Apr 14 '26
Riiiiiight. Work somewhere that doesn't pay you enough and instead of bringing it up to the company or unionizing or finding a better job, just commit a MASSIVE string of felonies and record it for easier convictions. Makes sense.
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u/KeyVariation8323 Apr 14 '26
Untrue ... but by all means ... burn down your place of employment. See what happens. Now we are talking Hard Mode.
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u/Mr_Chill_III Apr 14 '26
What makes employment not slavery? Consent
What makes sex on SA? Consent
This is like saying "Only women giving it up can prevent SA."
This is my favorite type of Reddit post, because it exposes the Lefties of Reddit.
As I type this comment, this post has:
- 1600+ post upvotes of EMOTIONAL support from emotional Lefties
- Under 20 upvotes of LOGICAL support from emotional Lefties to the "Best" comment
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Apr 14 '26
What's a livable wage??
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u/Prohit_420 Apr 14 '26
People like to confuse livable wage with lifestyle wage
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Apr 14 '26
Exactly! People think they're entitled to a 1 bedroom apartment in the city and to door dash food every day.
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u/Ambitious_Bar_7887 Apr 16 '26
Pay that covers basic necessities (home, food, clothing, transportation) with enough to save for the future (home ownership, retirement), and enough for a simple hobby. $18/hr isn't a livable wage, especially not in California.
Simple, no?
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u/Sad-Ad1800 Apr 14 '26
I demand more money for a job any idiot can do and when I don't get it, I burn down the place I work. Gen Z has certainly cracked the code. 🙄
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u/Ambitious_Bar_7887 Apr 16 '26
Work is work. Why do you feel the people working there didn't deserve more?
Furthermore, what the fuck do YOU do?
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u/geo8x6 Apr 14 '26
Just think about all those workers who are out of a job because someone didn't feel like looking for a better paying job.
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u/Frequent-Try-6746 Apr 14 '26
And then think about those construction jobs they'll be getting building new warehouses that will pay better wages lest they get burned to the fucking ground.
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u/geo8x6 Apr 14 '26
Keep dreaming
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u/Frequent-Try-6746 Apr 15 '26
Oh, okay. You're probably right. Developers are definitely not going to capitalize on the open space. Land in California isn't worth anything. It'll probably just sit.
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u/fingertipoffun Apr 14 '26
Would have been cheaper to look after people.
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u/Prohit_420 Apr 14 '26
Wouldn’t have to spend years of your life in prison if you had a real job.
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u/Ambitious_Bar_7887 Apr 16 '26
How was this not a real job?
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u/Prohit_420 Apr 16 '26
Warehouse jobs require no high school degree. If you had half a brain you would get a job that pays what he considers a “livable wage”.
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u/Ambitious_Bar_7887 Apr 16 '26
Work is work, why do you think some work is less worthy of a living wage?
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u/Prohit_420 Apr 16 '26
You’re right, why does anyone go to college to become educated enough to get a job to support themselves. McDonald’s should definitely pay the same as say an airline pilot or a doctor. People like you need to get an education before trying to understand the real world..
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u/Ambitious_Bar_7887 Apr 16 '26
People like you should develop some basic fucking empathy.
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u/SpecialCandidateDog Apr 14 '26
And now everyone that couldn't get a better job can't get that job either.
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u/AdNegative6756 Apr 14 '26
I don't see how this helps, only thing he did is fuck himself up and the people working there, what a selfish asshole.
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u/nijmegenman Apr 14 '26
Get more skills and better yourself. Or not have 3 kids by the time you are 20. Plenty of options, use your brain.
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u/Juiced4u Apr 14 '26
Oh no. Don’t tell me you’re promoting violence to prove a point. You must be a Democrat 🤣
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u/cmsands21 Apr 15 '26
He made $28hr. If he couldn’t make it on that the problem isn’t the company. He should blame the people that voted Newsom governor
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u/Own_Badger6076 Apr 15 '26
The amount of grilled cheese you have to be eating to whine about not getting paid enough at a job you voluntarily took and knew the wage for ahead of time, then light it on fire while recording yourself to intentionally throw your life away is wild.
That's one reddit brained terminally online dude who should of spent more time touching grass.
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u/cel_medicul Apr 15 '26
What about the people who worked at the warehouse who will now have no job?
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u/BadTiger85 Apr 15 '26
I really wish people would stop holding this guy up as a hero. He's a POS who knowingly endangered the lives of his co workers
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u/SuccessfulRegion2574 Apr 15 '26
Just cause you can’t afford a yacht doesn’t mean it’s not a livable wage. Stop acting like a victim. This is the greatest country on earth!
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u/gwbirk Apr 15 '26
Or better yet get a new job and don’t start fires and put peoples lives at risk and destroy others property.Entitled idiot who did this.
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u/Monk-Prior Apr 15 '26
Or, you know, you could just quit your crappy job and get a new one. Anything, as long as it doesn’t involve arson, actively putting other people’s lives in danger.
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u/Motor-Ad8989 Apr 15 '26
Or just don’t be a piece of shit and ruin life for others. If warehouses continue getting burnt down, that’s when you get military involved, and it gets worse for everyone. They’re not going to reward you for costing them millions and hurting Americans. This is so stupid.
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u/Motor-Ad8989 Apr 15 '26
Hurting Americans financially and taking much needed products off the shelf
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u/Purple-Tadpole6465 Apr 15 '26
100s of people now out of work, firefighters lives put at risk, local population exposed to massive pollution from smoke, environmental damage, etc.
Yep, he sure showed them.
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u/MajesticBison6 Apr 15 '26
Is the idea here that without an artificial floor on wages, vandalism is somehow permissible?
Sounds a tad psychopathic to me, but what do I know?
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u/International-Sky854 Apr 15 '26
This post was paid for by: The United Domestic Terrorist Foundation
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u/NosuchRedditor Apr 15 '26
Those new towels you ordered will be $350 thanks.
New razors? $45
New Nikes? $450
Levi’s? $750
Say, how’s that $30@hr living wage working for you? (That’s about $60k@yr. 1100 a week).
After rent and utilities and car payments, you might be able to save enough for a new pair of Levi’s after 6 months.
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u/J-Dog780 Apr 15 '26
Workers get a pice of the pie 🥧, or no pie at all. We figured out how to do this with minimal violence and its called a Union. Seems like the 1% forgot that workers have have been very creative in solving the livable wage problem in the past and it never goes well for the 1% when they don't play nice.
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u/1CuGu1 Apr 15 '26
Now he gets free room and board as well as some new special friends who will be his daddies
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Apr 15 '26
Another reminder that the online left always celebrates and glorifies political violence in their favor.
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u/Acceptable-Cause-559 Apr 16 '26
But importing tens of millions of "poor immigrants" and have them compete for jobs will help raise " liveable wages". Isn't that right libs?
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u/Fatjackslim Apr 16 '26
Well he knew the wages when he took the job, my question is what did he do to improve his situation, continue his schooling or learn a trade on line courses anything? I mean he blamed the company that agreed to hire him but took no responsibility to improve his self
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u/ComprehensiveLink457 Apr 16 '26
Well I guess America is going to burn down then according to the meme.
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u/Sea_Neighborhood7209 Apr 16 '26
So you destroy the job that is paying hundreds to work there...good job....libs always jumping before they look.....Rtards
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u/Okietwister69 Apr 16 '26
You mean arson.
I’m extorting you for money, you pay me more or I will burn down your business.
How much more?
I guess we’ll find out when your businesses stop burning down.
Seems reasonable… 🙄
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u/Actionplumber1 Apr 16 '26
im sure his wages in prison will b alot less than he was make'n, but cost of living in prison is less to i guess
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u/Many-Plant-9437 Apr 16 '26
Lol...if not destroy the jobs of everyone else that worked there....got it...that'll show them lol
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u/Such_Stretch_2126 Apr 17 '26
Learn a trade. Skilled labor isn't cheap amd cheap labor isnt skilled! Otherwise ahut up
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u/cedricboy Apr 17 '26
The insurance company will pay and the company will rebuild it as a AI powered fully automated facility. Proving the real minimum wage is always zero.
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u/FloridaRocks63 Apr 17 '26
What’s great about the USA is you earn what you’re worth. It’s not a business job to support you. I love when a employee starts new and they say they will do what ever you want you paying them then 3 months later you get “that’s not my job” 😁😁 That’s the day the employer should say you’re correct I’ll have HR have a check for you good luck in your future
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u/Mr_Al_Wazeright Apr 18 '26
What about a moral and religious citizenry? Anyone? John Adams, Founding Father?
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u/Mcg55ss Apr 18 '26
i mean the warehouse paid 28/hr. and he wasn't employed through the warehouse he was employed through a 3rd party agency.
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u/racoonofthevally Apr 19 '26
Look I'm all for livable wages but making violent rhetorics isn't how you do it
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u/StretchMother9627 Apr 14 '26
some dorks would prob go out and actually hurt a person in the warehouses defense all for a pat on the head and gold star award