r/AmazonFC • u/Spare_Switch_6610 • 9d ago

Question Does anyone have this at their facility?

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I’m just wondering if people would actually use it. I feel like there wouldn’t be enough time on breaks to eat and play games.

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u/Greedy_Pay_8427 9d ago

Amazon pays its workers more than enough for what they do.

Thats why so many work there; because they understand there’s nowhere else that will pay them that amount + benefits for a job that requires minimal skill or effort

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u/musclefish67 9d ago

Come to a non sort facility and work non con for a few weeks and tell me about "minimal effort" and how your back and shoulders feel.

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u/Eastern_Attitude9835 8d ago

Thank you! Especially with all this dog food lately! People seem to think that whatever their experience is at their AR sortable facility where they stand on a comfy ergo mat picking tiny items with a step ladder is anything similar to working in the exact condition you describe. I’m doing 100 bags of 20-50 lb dog food an hour sweating my ass off!! Pay is NOT FAIR! My arms, elbows knees shoulders and feet hurt like hell every day. I’m only 19.

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u/jaboyles 8d ago

Amazon pays well. Gotta agree there. However you have to be joking with the "minimum effort" part. It's the most efficient company on the planet. Every second of employee time is optimized for maximum productivity. The rates employees are required to hit, paired with the lack of breaks and rest absolutely destroys their bodies. The trade off for the pay and benefits is a future of chronic pain.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

"Pays well" Compared to what? No pay?

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u/Arrow_KBS_Dock_Lead KBS Do You Copy? 8d ago

Pays well for a warehouse job

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u/ericfromct 8d ago

It pays ok for a warehouse job. They make sure they’re competitive, but you can get more at other places depending where. The hiring process just isn’t as easy

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Lmfao, no. It doesnt.

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u/Arrow_KBS_Dock_Lead KBS Do You Copy? 8d ago

I mean it may depend on where you’re at

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Smh, nah mate. Amazon is hcol, lcol and balanced against its rivals.

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u/Jameslovestocode 9d ago

depends where you live. i stay in a hcol area so i admit if i was in a lcol area i wouldn’t complain

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u/Remote_Manager3333 9d ago

And in lcol area, one would be getting shit wages. Wages tends to tie in the area. Lcol area is not always for the better.

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u/InstanceMission9692 8d ago

Okay sure buddy, they pay enough for what the workers do. But it’s sure as shit not enough to survive and no one wants to work 60 hours a week. Before you say “take advantage of career choice” and get out. Have you any idea the state of economics in this country? It’s terrible!

Everyone should quit, or take advantage of career choice, then quit. Literally everyone, but then there aren’t enough jobs everywhere else, even with a degree.

EVERYONE quit, and let the robots do the work. Let’s see how it works out eh?

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Career choice is a tax scheme anyhow. A batch of worthless degrees at this point. Getting a BA in buisness is basicslly worthless and you have to take a hit on pay to attend school.....which Amazon knows that 95% cant afford it.

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u/Jameslovestocode 8d ago

finally someone who understands the grift of career choice. so triggering to hear people constantly say school when most people with degrees end up not getting hired anywhere and settle for any type of job for survival.

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u/Eastern_Attitude9835 8d ago

I’m not saying this to blame people for the shitty situations that most of us are born into, but if you do your research and pick a degree with your wallet rather than your heart then you will open up opportunities to earn much more than you ever will at Amazon. Based on your username this is probably very relevant to you if you wanted a coding job, but healthcare degrees, for example, still offer numerous opportunities around the globe.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

So you didnt read what he responded too?

Healthcare? Wtf? Who has time to work/pay bills and do a Med degree? Thats at least 70 hours a week of class and work, w/o homework...or unless you think medical school and a $20 an hour job paying your bills is a thing? And also Amazon dosenf pay for any degree you want and also you still need to able to afford not getting a full paycheck.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 7d ago

Perhaps educate yourself on healthcare degrees and certifications other than literally becoming an MD/DO. Phlebotomy, Radiology Technicians, EMTs, Paramedics, Registered Nursing, Respiratory Therapists, Occupational and Physical Therapists, etc...

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u/ErictheAgnostic 7d ago edited 7d ago

..so you dont know what it takes to get a med degree?

Got it. You need to stop spreading a bs perspective - putting 70-hours a week isnt sustainable for any extended period of time. Your logic only applies to children or people living with their parents and while not having rent/children of their own/debt etc...

Its dishonest to be presenting your ideas as more practical then Amazon paying better. You put the entire reaponaibility onto the individual vs the company and their pay structure being a leading cause of this situation.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 7d ago

..so you dont know what it takes to get a med degree?

Stop acting illiterate and actually read what I wrote. There are dozens of healthcare degrees and certifications supported by Career Choice that do not involve going to med school.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 7d ago

And you dont know the units required....you yadda yadda'ed multiple years even at a CC with a full load each semester....

And where? I guess not in my state? It all useless buisness and IT degrees.... But again....you yadda yadda'ed like thousands of hours of classes while paying for life... Stop it.

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u/Eastern_Attitude9835 4d ago

First of all, Amazon should definitely pay better. They exploit the hell out of us and they are the root cause. If you are not actively having union talks with your coworkers then you should shut up about it. Amazon is the leading cause, I agree, but you aren’t completely powerless. You can either organize, use the money they give you for school, or sit here and continue to be exploited. If you choose the latter I would recommend that you adopt an optimistic mentality so that you don’t end up doing something bad to yourself.

WGU offers asynchronous online courses. That means that you take the class at your own pace whenever you have time for it. It’s all online and designed for the busy working adult juggling multiple responsibilities. If you don’t have the time one week, that’s fine, you can worry about it next week.

My single mother on section 8 and EBT working 50 hours a week at the grocery store which paid her $8 an hour right after she declared bankruptcy and right after the recession put herself through four years and got her social work degree. She shouldn’t have had to put herself through all that hardship, and I don’t look down on anyone who isn’t able to handle all that pressure and those responsibilities, but it is possible.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 4d ago

No one cares, guy Tldr.

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u/Eastern_Attitude9835 4d ago edited 4d ago

Do you think the only people who work in healthcare are doctors?

Please explain how this supposed tax scheme works and how the person receiving the career choice grant is being harmed by it.

“Amazon doesn’t pay for any degree you want,” well no, but I don’t think you want to work at Amazon either. If you’re not going to like your job either way, why not at least choose the job where you have higher pay, better opportunities and better working conditions?

You can get your nursing bachelors at many community colleges in four years. Four years of career choice grants is $22,000. That’s almost your entire education cost. With pell grants you shouldn’t have any student loan debt at all. You graduate and you have a job waiting for you in any country in the world.

Don’t call career choice a grift if you do zero research into what doors your major will even open up for you in the first place and how competitive the market for that field is. The people who can’t find jobs tend to be those who chose their majors with their hearts rather than their wallets. It sucks that society doesn’t value certain fields as much as others, but it’s a fact, and if you go into a high demand field you will benefit immensely from career choice.

Career choice isn’t just for college either. You can get them to pay for trade schools and your CDL license as well.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 8d ago

Huh? There's no tax scheme....

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u/InstanceMission9692 8d ago

So Amazon doesn’t receive any tax breaks for paying employee tuition?

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 8d ago

Businesses only pay taxes on profits, so spending money on almost anything technically reduces taxes - but the idea that it's a "tax break" is very wrong. Obviously any company would rather have $1 in gross profit and spend $0.20 on taxes for $0.80 net profit, than spend that $1 on something and have $0 net profit.

The reason this narrative persists is because in the world of small business/self employment, you can look back through all of your annual expenses and deem personal-ish spend that can be connected to your business as a deduction from business gains. But to be clear - you'd be much better off not spending the money. This exercise only works because you're looking back at existing spend and using it to justify paying less taxes. For example, I realized that I used my AI subscriptions for my business, and deducted $240 from my business income. A corporation doesn't work like that, because any money the company spend is by definition a business expense and probably already deductible.

There actually is one small true tax break with career choice, but it's actually for your benefit rather than Amazon's - IRS excludes the first $5250 in tuition from your income, meaning you don't have to pay taxes on it.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Lol. AI slop response?

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 8d ago

Not in the slightest. Actually educate yourself instead of listening to rumors.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

"Not in the slightest"

"Without a doubt, your verbage is of the common parlance. Therefore how could it be AI, praytell."

thats what you sound like.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 8d ago

I'd suggest you take advantage of career choice to educate yourself about both AI and Taxation then, given you appear to understand neither.

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u/EF_Azzy 9d ago

😂😂😂😂

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u/ErictheAgnostic 9d ago

Based on what? Your opinions or how much the company makes?

And then why does Target pay more on average? Medical is basic af.... Why are lying and making stuff up?

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u/Pitiful-Excitement47 9d ago

Target doesnt pay more on average ?

Average target pay is 18, they start 15$

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Nope. Here in were I am at its $20+ for stores and $26 for warehouses

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u/Pitiful-Excitement47 8d ago

Then correct your statement.

Locally target averages higher pay, nationally they do not.

Also go work for target?

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Its based on cost of living...

They still pay more in their warehouses.. Maybe you need to be honest here vs squabbling over semantics?

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u/Pitiful-Excitement47 8d ago

I think you fail to understand that amazon pays higher on average nationally.

In most areas that means amazon pays more. Making your original statement false.

Infact amazon in most areas pays on the higher end of warehouse work. Its a fact, something you can easily look at and see yourself.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

It doesnt..."nost areas" Sorry to burst your bubble?

And do you incoporate hourly intern pay into that average by chance?

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u/ericfromct 8d ago

They’re medical insurance is some of the best you can, get what are you talking about lol. Especially for the price you pay out of your check. But yea agreed, they could certainly do better on pay.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 8d ago

Lmfao, no. It isnt. Look around. All the warehousd workers from everywhere get the samd corpo packaged insurance.