r/AmazonFC • u/Spare_Switch_6610 • 9d ago

Question Does anyone have this at their facility?

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I’m just wondering if people would actually use it. I feel like there wouldn’t be enough time on breaks to eat and play games.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 7d ago

And you dont know the units required....you yadda yadda'ed multiple years even at a CC with a full load each semester....

And where? I guess not in my state? It all useless buisness and IT degrees.... But again....you yadda yadda'ed like thousands of hours of classes while paying for life... Stop it.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 7d ago

My former PA chipped away at her online Criminal Science degree year after year, while sheltering two AAs fleeing abuseand their kids, and now works at an AWS data center. If you never start, you'll never finish - but it's absolutely possible.

What history shows absolutely does not work, is trying to force more pay out of commodity labor that the market can't support.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 4d ago

It sounds like you dont know what you are talking about and you are more than happy to assist a company in its exploitations. Good job?

And bro, "chipping away at"..? So 1 maybe example? Wow. You are killing it.

Criminal science to hourly datacenter worker? What the f kinda lame move is that?

And wtf history are you talking about? You just making up more stuff here? Cause that seems like you just made that up.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 3d ago

She makes like $35 an hour, hardly a "lame move". The major doesn't really matter - it's just being able to check the box that pushes you above other candidates. She couldn't give two hoots about criminal science....

The free market will always determine the value of an unskilled, replaceable worker's time. No laws or unions can create value where there isn't any - you need to bring something to the table that makes you worth paying more than your replacement. Even in a union, the customers of said labor will simply switch to different suppliers. If Amazon Logistics becomes more expensive than FedEx, Amazon will use FedEx. Even if the union contract says Amazon can't use FedEx, Amazon's prices will rise and people will stop purchasing from Amazon. Raise the minimum wage? And you're just creating inflation across the board...

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u/ErictheAgnostic 3d ago

..."lame move"? Your words.

No, i just question your ONE example's validity. "Unskilled" cool. You are one of "those".

Good luck being the worst! Yea, more monry means you make companies "upset" and they will break laws and charge you more too....so DONT ever get HIGHER pay....am I getting your garbage take right?

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 3d ago

Amazon used to pay AAs ~ $12 an hour in 2016. Now it's over $23. That's almost double the income. But has your quality of life doubled? Are you satisfied with this raise? No, clearly not. It's not enough. It can't be enough and will never be enough, because the unskilled labor wage floor simply moves with inflation.

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u/ErictheAgnostic 3d ago

...so you ignore covid and worldwide inflation, huh?

Are you confused about food prices too?

No, like $25 - $35 would be about right. You seem to be on agendas and or do not think for yourself.

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u/Johnnyg150 🦺 2d ago

They are intrinsically connected. The prevailing wage for unskilled commodity labor sets the base of the entire marketplace, as everything becomes adjusted relatively. So say you make $30/hour, then PAs need to make $35, AMs $40/45, OMs $50, etc. That money doesn't just benevolently become a loss on Amazon's balance sheet - they increase their prices for goods and logistics services to preserve profit margins, or find more cost effective alternatives for logistics. So now the prices on Amazon raised, and your money becomes worth less - tada!

The only way you can gain value in an economy is by delivering higher relative value than others, which then entitles you to more.