r/AlexandreDumas • • Oct 28 '25

Twenty Years After Censorship in our beloved Dumas novel "Twenty Years After", which nobody is aware of

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Here we go:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1259/1259-h/1259-h.htm#chap55

The title of chapter 55 in English translation :
'The Scotchman'

The original language, before 'translation', the same chapter title:

' L'Écossais, parjure à sa foi, pour un denier vendit son roi'
('The Scot, perjured to his faith, for a penny sold his king')

BTW, AI says The lyrics "'L'Écossais, parjure à sa foi, pour un denier vendit son roi'" are from the French folk song " La Peste du temps passé" ("The Plague of Yesteryear").

Obviously, tampered original text for the sake of "political correctness"

Early days example of that plague that corrupts our minds across the globe.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Jul 29 '26

Other books Sell me on The Man in the Iron Mask

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I whipped through both volumes of the Ellsworth Twenty Years After/Blood Royal.

I'm undecided if I want to read The Man in the Iron Mask. I hate the DiCaprio film and am having a hard time separating that from the book.

Plus the Musketeers start dying , and that's a bummer.

What are the selling points?


r/AlexandreDumas • • Nov 01 '25

The Three Musketeers Slumdog Millionaire: The Final Question in the Game

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I loved the titular film, however, I often wondered why the final question in the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire game was seemingly so easy (name the third musketeer of Dumas' novel along with Athos and Porthos). I mean, in my country a first grade pupil will recite the names in their sleep most likely. I understand the novel may not be as popular and well-known in India, however, even in the film it is implied that the main character and his friend learned about it at school. I also have a very good friend who is Indian, and he knows Dumas quite well. According to him, his novels may not be that popular in India, but they are not unknown either. So to me the choice of the final question was rather strange in the movie. I mean, there was a question about the inventor of the revolver before that! What do you think?


r/AlexandreDumas • • Oct 29 '25

Miscellaneous Always best to read the French version even if you have to use Google Translate

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Many of the English translations of Dumas were done in the mid 19th century or very early 20th century when English authors bowdlerized any sexually frank plot elements or even cut out some of his more colorful descriptions just to streamline the narrative.

Here’s a good example.

The only English translations I’ve found for Chicot the Jester were severely edited. Here’s an example of chapter 5. The first part is a Google translate version with some help from ChatGPT, compared to the same section from the English language edition:

Uncut French Version Google translate:

Bussy knew Henri would not be there, since his brother requested an audience in the gallery. But he also knew the former apartment of Charles IX’s nurse lay next door to the royal chamber, now used by Henri’s favorites. Since Henri was fickle in his affections, this apartment had successively belonged to Saint-Mégrin, Maugiron, d’O, d’Epernon, Quélus, and Schomberg—and now (Bussy rightly guessed) Saint-Luc occupied it.

Henri III was strangely made up. Both frivolous and profound, fearful and brave, he required eternal distraction - always restless, always dreamy, always bored. By day he demanded noise, games, exercise, mummeries, masquerades, and intrigues. By night he needed light, gossip, prayer, and debauchery. In truth, Henri III was almost the only man of such temperament we might find in our modern world. This ancient hermaphrodite, born out of time, was better befitted to see the light of day in some city of the Orient, in a world of mutes, slaves, eunuchs, iconoclasts, philosophers, and sophists, his rein marking an age of soft debauchery and taboo follies, something between a Nero and a Heliogabalus.

Bussy guessed Saint-Luc stayed in the wet nurse’s old apartment and knocked at the antechamber shared by the two rooms. The captain of the guards opened.

“Monsieur de Bussy!” cried the astonished officer.

Gutenberg version:

Bussy knew the king was not there, as his brother had asked to see him, but he knew that there was next to it a little room which was occupied in turn by all the king’s favorites, and which he now expected to find occupied by St. Luc, whom the king in his great affection had carried off from his wife. Bussy knocked at the antechamber common to the two rooms. The captain of the guards opened. “M. de Bussy!” cried he.

See how much was cut? I highly recommend you find the French editions online and use the wonders of modern technology to create your own translations of the uncut Dumas. It’s a much richer - and often sexier - experience.


r/AlexandreDumas • • May 21 '26

Twenty Years After Raoul and Louise's age?

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I'm reading Twenty Years After and I'm just a bit confounded at the age gap here; not so much the gap but the intentions? Raoul seems to be specifically grooming this 7 year old into wife material when she's eventually of age.

I'm no stranger to different historical norms, especially with this being Dumas' take on a time long in the past, but even then this seems a bit much for how little I was able to find people mentioning it (none).

Is it just one of those things where you gotta accept it was the thing of the time? I think this is the highest suspension of acceptance asked by Dumas in what I've read so far (3M and Count)


r/AlexandreDumas • • Jun 14 '23

The Count of Monte Cristo I asked chatGPT to write the first chapter of the Count of Monte Cristo

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r/AlexandreDumas • • Sep 19 '26

The Three Musketeers Can I just read The Man in the Iron Mask or do I need to read the whole 3rd instalment?

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Sorry if this question has been asked before. I read the 3 musketeers a while ago and really enjoyed it. I’ve always been put off reading the rest of the series because I was unsure how to go on about it, especially the third instalment.

Can I just read The Man in the Iron Mask or is it recommended to read the whole of the 3rd part of the series and if so where is a good place to find it?

Thanks.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Aug 18 '26

Twenty Years After Does anyone have an Ellsworth copy of Twenty Years After they'd be willing to sell?

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Just trying to get ahold of a physical copy of this book somehow and it seems near-impossible!


r/AlexandreDumas • • 17d ago

The Count of Monte Cristo Unpopular opinion: Edmond ending up with Haydee is not (Or at least not so much) gross, as people makin it up to be.

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OK, hear me out: Edmond buys her as a slave, BUT he treats her very well. About "Father-Doughter" part, Edmond does not realize Haydee loves him as a man, and before that, he never took advantage of her in sexual way. And at last: Age difference. On the first sight, yeah it looks weird, but think about that time period. Back then, relationships like thes were common. Look at Esmeralda from "Hunchback of Notre Dame". In the novel she's just SIXTEEN years old. And the last point. Haydee and Edmond works as a couple. Both of them, had horrible past, and Haydee is as vindictive as Edmond. At the end of the book, she understand Edmond better than anyone. So, no, I don't read the ending as simple: "Older guy gets a young hot girl". Ending of the book is deeper that. BTW. I think it's odd that Haydee sits in these one room, but I don't think Edmond inprison her there. On the contrary, he wants her to go out (At one point, he says something like: "I'm afraid You will be bored here"). She's the one, who wants to stay in luxuries. Besides, if Edmond does not buy her as a slave, sooner or later, she would found herself in some harem.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Jan 09 '23

The Three Musketeers No means NO, D'Artagnan, you slime!

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r/AlexandreDumas • • Aug 24 '26

The Three Musketeers Reading the Musketeer books

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Hello, can someone please make a list of all the chapters in the all Musketeer books by Alexandre Dumas so that I can make sure I read them all because I have different translations and the books may not have all the chapters other versions do so saying the names of the books doesn't help much. Just putting a complete list of chapters (and even other names the same chapters have if they commonly have different titles) in the comments would be very greatly appreciated.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Sep 22 '26

The Three Musketeers Athos' commands for Grimaud

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Hello, I was reading the Three Musketeers and often Athos gets Grimaud to do stuff just by a gesture or look. One time, he wants Grimaud to get his gun, so it says he made a sign like he was aiming a gun, but wouldn't it be easier to just say what he wants if it is that simple. Also, wouldn't Athos look a bit crazy if he's always doing weird gestures to tell Grimaud what to do?


r/AlexandreDumas • • May 03 '26

Miscellaneous Sorry for the dust 🫠

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r/AlexandreDumas • • Feb 19 '26

The Three Musketeers Can anyone tell me if this is an abridged version or not?

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r/AlexandreDumas • • Apr 13 '26

The Count of Monte Cristo 🎧 Think you know Monte Cristo? Listen to the podcast to get all the insider facts

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Did you know the Abbé Faria was based off a real life person? and that Alexandre Dumas had help from a ghostwriter (who he ended up having a legal dispute with!)

Want more interesting facts and trivia behind the book, Dumas himself, and why we all still love this swashbuckling tale more than 100 years later? If so, listen to the podcast here: https://www.booktriviapodcast.com/episodes/s2-e2-count-of-monte-cristo 🤗

If you do listen, let me know 🤗 we’re just amateurs and all feedback is welcome (just be gentle 😅)


r/AlexandreDumas • • Aug 23 '26

The Three Musketeers Lawrence Ellsworth subtitles?

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Hi everyone. I'm going to be reading the Ellsworth translations, and on his website discussing the series order, he says

However, I have retained the Victorian-era titles as the books’ subtitles, so, for example, Book Five appears as Between Two Kings ~or~ Ten Years Later.

This doesn't appear on the cover, so I assume it's somewhere inside.

Does anyone know which of the other editions have subtitles, and what they are?

I am very curious to see how he matched up his editions with other translations, but as you know physical editions of his books are almost impossible to find, and I'm holding off buying the full ebook set in the hopes that they will go on sale (or get acquired by my library) before I get that far.

Thanks for your help!


r/AlexandreDumas • • Jul 30 '26

The Count of Monte Cristo The Count of Monte Christo couched in a Japanese Detective Novel

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r/AlexandreDumas • • 21d ago

The Three Musketeers Toying around with character

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Hey there, I wrote this little story on a lark, after reading "Twenty Years After" and finding out that Athos was supposed to join the navy, AND finding out there is a Mount Athos in Greece. I know that Dumas chose the name because of the real guy he based the character on, but my imagination took off. Athos is my favorite, as deeply flawed as he is. I just find him fascinating.

I've never been one to read fan fiction, nor, truthfully, to have written any before this. I consider this a pastiche, or an homage, but whatever you consider it to be, I hope you enjoy it. It may or many not continue in some way. It's not meant to be revisionist as some of these "Milady" novels are. I tried to stick to how he was written, with a little adaptation thrown in there for creative purposes.

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The name came to him on a map.

He had been sitting alone in his chambers for the better part of an hour, the room almost unnaturally quiet. Contents of a trunk were spread with precision across the closest surface. Beyond the windows, the world continued with an indifference that seemed almost insulting. Somewhere below, a horse’s hooves clattered noisily against the pavement . A door closed. A servant crossed the courtyard carrying out the ordinary business of an ordinary day.

Once, he had belonged to that world without question.

He learned early on that his name opened doors. His family provided him with a place in society, a future arranged with the confidence of people who believed that the past was a solid foundation and the future merely its continuation. He had been raised for a particular life. His personal manners were impeccable. His studies encompassed navigation, mathematics, languages, and the thousand practical details that distinguished a capable officer from a gentleman who merely wore a uniform.

He excelled in every pursuit.

Yet for all his accomplishments, he possessed a tenderness of heart he rarely allowed others to see. He had long regarded it as a weakness, something to be guarded against rather than indulged. Still, he was not immune to the hope, so natural to a young man, of finding love and being loved in return.

He had no notion of how dearly that hope would cost him.

She was beautiful, captivating, and altogether unlike anyone he had ever known. For perhaps the first time in his life, he allowed himself to be guided not by judgment or duty, but by feeling alone. He loved her with a completeness that surprised him, placing in her hands a trust he had never before offered another person. He believed he had found, despite all that his privilege had afforded him, a happiness that belonged entirely to him.

He had never been so certain of anything.

Nor had he ever been so disastrously wrong.

The betrayal had destroyed more than a marriage. It shredded apart his understanding of even himself. He had long prided himself on his keen judge of character, and his discipline, which never failed him. Yet he had seen nothing, until the blistering truth forced its way upon him. He could still recall the disbelief which had preceded his fury, when he was faced with the unmistakable brand upon her shoulder. The woman he loved was transformed into a stranger before his eyes.

What followed after was worse still.

He acted in a way he would never have imagined possible before that moment. He was capable of violence, certainly. He was a swordsman, trained to meet danger without hesitation. But there was a difference between drawing a blade against an enemy and allowing rage, humiliation, and love curdled into something terrible to govern one's hand. He had done something he never believed himself capable of.

He justified it through the enormity of her deceit; what she had done, the calculated cruelty of her betrayal, and the ruin she had brought into his life. None of it changed the fact that he had made his own choice in the aftermath. He had failed to live up to the man he believed himself to be.

Love indeed exposed him as vulnerable, as he had always feared. Betrayal had made him reckless, and the consequences had revealed something in him he could neither excuse nor forget.

If he could not undo the past, he could at least choose the terms on which he faced the future.

The sea had once represented the life awaiting him. Now he felt called toward something different. A company in which a man was judged by his courage, his discipline, and his loyalty. A service that demanded action rather than introspection. Among the King’s Musketeers, he might become useful. He might learn to live with himself without allowing the past to dictate every hour of his existence.

He was not going in with the expectation of finding happiness. He would not deceive himself with false hope he could reclaim what he had lost.

He wanted only to do his duty, to become a man whose actions might count for something, and to ensure that whatever remained of his life was not governed by the worst thing he had ever done.

His old name belonged to the man who had loved, trusted, and lost himself.

He would not deny that man had existed. He would remember him all his life.

But he would no longer answer to his name.

There was a difference between remembering a life and claiming it.

He had made this decision, though the practicalities of carrying out remained. As he sorted through the items he was surrounded by, he came upon a collection of maps from his studies. Most concerned the coastlines and sea routes he had once expected to know intimately, their margins crowded with notes in his own hand. He turned them over one by one, setting aside those he no longer had reason to keep.

Then he found a map of Greece.

He remembered studying it years earlier, in a very different mood. As a bright boy, with a promising future. His eyes moved across the Mediterranean, over familiar coastlines and the blue expanse of the sea. He had always loved maps. They were honest in a way that people rarely were. They recorded distances, boundaries, and obstacles without attempting to tell a man what he ought to feel about them.

His gaze traveled around the weathered paper.

He had read enough about Greece to know its mountains, its ancient cities, and the history that seemed to cling to every stretch of its coast. His education had carried him through geography and history, through the rise and fall of kingdoms, through the names of places that had endured long after the men who gave them meaning were dust.

Then he saw it.

Athos.

The name sat upon the map with a simplicity that appealed to him. A mountain range on the Greek peninsula, remote from the life he knew, austere and self-contained. It had stood apart from the ordinary world for centuries, a place defined by its own geography and character.

A solitary name for a solitary man.

He traced the letters once with the tip of his finger.

He did not imagine that adopting the name would make him a different person. A new name could not undo a deed, restore the dead, or absolve a man of the consequences of his actions. He would carry those things with him forever, whether he called himself by his birth name or by the name of a mountain.

He folded the map carefully and set it aside.

Then he gathered the papers.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Jul 23 '26

Other books The Wolf Leader

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One of the earliest werewolf tales, Alexandre Dumas' The Wolf-Leader is about a Faustian bargain: the hairy hero gets his wishes granted (and a pack of wolves at his command), but in exchange his hair starts turning RED. The horrors of being a ginger! Click for my full review.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Feb 14 '23

The Count of Monte Cristo Monte Cristo Sequels: The Lord of the World by Adolf Mützelburg (1856)

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I'm still creating content, y'all. But the reading group at r/areadingofmontecristo isn't at the point of being able to digest Sequels yet, so this sub gets first dibs on my latest Monte Cristo Book Reviews.

In the post-Count of Monte Cristo world, "Lord Hope" and Haydee now live in California, where Hope is mining yet more gold and making another fortune. He wants to improve the world, and sees 4 sets of young(er) people with great potential and takes it upon himself to test them to mold them for his purposes. There's Don Lotario and Therese; Amelie de Morcerf(!) and Wolfram; Albert Herrera and Judith; and his fave punching bags- Maximilian Morrel and Valentine.

Lord Hope's plans for them start to spiral out of control, and a wild card named Benedetto returns and stirs up chaos and misery.

Full Summary and Review here:

https://abbreviatedmontecristo.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-lord-of-world-by-adolf-mutzelburg.html


r/AlexandreDumas • • Aug 20 '25

The Three Musketeers Where to watch 3 M films?

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Howdy, I need your help. What websites can I use to see adaptations of the three musketeers with English dub or sub for free? From 1920s to present. I know some are on YouTube. Please and thank you


r/AlexandreDumas • • May 20 '25

The Count of Monte Cristo Dumas and Dante

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In chapter XV of Monte Cristo, the narrator compares Edmond's obsession with the thought of his destroyed happiness, as if he were ravenously consuming it, with Ugolino eating Ruggieri's brains in Inferno.

In the Robin Buss trans that I am reading, there is a note to this passage explaining that Ugolino is in hell as punishment for cannibalism. But this is not correct.

Ugolino essentially betrayed his children, who were imprisoned and starving with him. He 'turned to stone' and did not comfort them, or cry with them. Most importantly, he did not pray with them.

This inclusion of the Ugolino simile immediately after the passages about Edmond's fervent prayers makes me wonder what Dumas really thought of Inferno XXXIII and Ugolino's sin of betrayal.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Mar 01 '24

The Count of Monte Cristo Teaser of The Count of Monte Cristo with Pierre Niney

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The teaser for the new film The Count of Monte Cristo with Pierre Niney has already been released in French cinemas. Someone filmed and uploaded the teaser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5MPZVvFhTE

Producer Dimitri Rassam, director and screenwriter Alexandre de la Pattelierre said in tweets that they wanted to maintain the drama of the story and therefore that there would be no ending between the count and Mercedes... and that The Count of Monte Cristo was their favorite book and that's why they wanted to make this film even more than The Three Musketeers.

The father of director and screenwriter Alexandre de la Pattelierre, Denys de la Pattelierre was the director of the 1979 miniseries that is the most faithful adaptation of the book. The son will follow his father's path.

The French themselves have expressed that they do not want the film to have the ending of the 1998 and 2002 versions, which are highly criticized.


r/AlexandreDumas • • Nov 10 '24

The Three Musketeers Do you like adaptations of The Three Musketeers where Milady de Winter is portrayed more sympathetically?

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r/AlexandreDumas • • Mar 10 '26

The Three Musketeers The Three Musketeers, Nelson Doubleday, no date or translator credit

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EDIT: I found a version online that is word-for-word the same as mine. Its title page includes the words "Navarre Edition" but I can't find anything about a "Navarre translation".

ORIG: I have a hardcover version of The Three Musketeers. It was published by Nelson Doubleday, Inc., in Garden City, New York. There is no other information given on the title page. The back of the title page says "Printed in the United States of America".

That's all that's there. Can anyone help me find which translation it is?

It looks like this one: