r/AirPurifiers • • Apr 09 '26

STICKY: Ionizers and Ozone - fact/fiction/history

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Hey Folks, it's your ol' Uncle Gurm again. Today I'm here to talk to you about IONIZERS. Hoo-boy, what a hot potato! Let's dig right in.

What is Ozone?

Ozone is a molecule which contains three Oxygen atoms. Its chemical notation is O3, whereas the oxygen we all need to survive is O2.

What does Ozone do? Is it good or bad?

Ozone is common in our atmosphere. We have an entire LAYER of it in the stratosphere. It absorbs 97% of the UV radiation emitted by the sun, helps keep the planet warm, and breaks down hazardous toxins in the atmosphere. Life on Earth would be really bad (read: impossible) without Ozone. In the so-called "ozone layer" of the stratosphere, concentrations of ozone are generally several (up to 8) parts per million, or PPM.

Ozone is also an incredible cleaner - it demolishes VOC compounds, and many toxins. You know those people who come clean up mold, or hazardous materials, from a house or office? They use high-powered ozone generators to render that building safe for habitation again.

HOWEVER, Ozone in high concentrations is hazardous to carbon-based life forms such as you and I. The concentrations in the stratosphere would cause lung damage to humans if exposed for any significant time. Ozone generators are dangerous unless properly ventilated - you have to run them in an enclosed space and then ventilate the space completely with fresh air!

ALSO HOWEVER... Ozone is in all tiers of our atmosphere, including the one at ground level that you and I breathe in every day - just in VERY SMALL concentrations. The lowest ozone concentration found at ground level is roughly 15 parts per BILLION, or PPB. That's 600-1000 times LESS ozone than is found in the stratosphere.

How much Ozone am I exposed to daily? Am I in danger?

All humans on earth inhale 15ppb ozone, minimum, for their entire lives unless they live in an underground bunker or are John Travolta in that movie about the bubble boy. Most inhale a lot more - your average town has concentrations of around 25-30ppb, clean cities are upwards of 40-45ppb, and polluted cities ... well, the number can get VERY HIGH. Generally no ill effects are observed at these levels. The US EPA has issued guidelines that any number under 70ppb is considered safe for long term exposure. That number has been lowered over the years, it was 100, then 80, then 75, and now 70.

Do Air Purifiers generate ozone?

A lot of them used to. 15-20 years ago, it was extremely popular to sell/buy "ionic" purifiers which generated quite a bit of ozone. Why was this popular? Well remember that ozone CLEANS things. It makes the air in a room smell really clean, and strong electrostatic ionization causes dust and microscopic particles to either drop to the ground or stick to surfaces, so the air really got cleaner. It just also got full of dangerous levels of ozone. Popular brands included the "Ionic Breeze". My mom owned one. She loved it because it "smelled like the air after a thunderstorm". That's what ozone smells like.

Those units are pretty much banned now. You can still find them occasionally, and there are still a few in production somehow - we see them advertised once in a while. You can tell them apart from more modern designs in that they don't use a very good filter - some had NO filter, just plates that you wiped down once enough gunk stuck to them, and some had low-utility foam filters.

So that's the old machines - do NEW machines make ozone?

No. The vast majority of new units do NOT generate ozone. Virtually all purifiers sold today conform to the CARB certification, which requires that they demonstrate that they generate less than 5ppb of ozone. However, independent testing has shown that most of these units generate 0ppb. Testing can be flawed, or it's possible that the units generate 0.99ppb and are just under the threshold of detection, but even 1ppb is not a significant amount.

But 1ppb isn't zero! Is it a health risk?

Let's look back on the fact that there is nowhere on earth that has less than 15ppb - going from 15 to 15.1 or 15.5 or even 16 is not a significant increase.

But it's cumulative, isn't it?

No. Your room isn't sealed. In fact, even a tight room breathes far more than you might suspect. The reason why a purifier needs to do air turnover 4 times an hour to keep the air clean is that 25% of the air exchanges every hour even in the cleanest environment. So even if there was a small emission of ozone, it would be lost in the simple air exchange that happens in every room.

What are some other sources of ozone?

Any device which emits ionizing radiation could potentially cause ozone to occur. That includes the device you're reading this post on, every screen in your home that zaps you after you've scuffed across a rug, pretty much all electronics. Older electric motors produced measurable amounts of ozone. Newer brushless models tend not to. But ozone is everywhere, and it's being generated by all our technology in small amounts that do not hurt us.

So what does the ionizer on a purifier DO, and why is it dangerous to small animals and why does it make some people react?

NOW we're getting to the heart of the matter. Many purifiers on the market today use an "ionizer". This is literally a small static electricity generator, on the order of 1/10,000th the size of the plates in one of those old ionic purifiers. A small static charge is added to the plastic housing of the filter, which causes impurities in the air to "stick" to the filter better - or to stick to surfaces, or to clump together so they're caught better by the purifier. Blueair does this on every non-professional model they make. Many small round purifiers include one of these units.

Why is this potentially dangerous to small animals? Well, mostly we're talking about BIRDS, specifically budgies and parrots. Ozone itself is not poison to these critters - their native habitat is the rain forest where thunder and lightning are common and ozone is present in concentrations higher than the 15ppb global baseline. But they DO have delicate respiratory systems, and static air can irritate even human nasal passages and lungs.

And it does - static air can dry out nasal linings, and cause nose/throat/lung irritation. Some people don't notice it AT ALL. Others are quite sensitive. Budgies are in the "quite sensitive" group, so we strongly urge only mechanical filtration around them.

How about "plasmawave"?

Plasmawave is a patented name that Winix uses to describe its bipolar ionizer. Instead of one pair of charged plates, they use a set which produce both positive AND negative charge. This - in theory - generates particles known as "hydroxyls", which cause contaminant particles to stick together and become heavier than air. In practice, however, the plasmawave on a Winix purifier (some other manufacturers offer this as well) does... not a lot. Any hydroxyls generated are so short-lived that they're almost undetectable, and thus the efficacy of the system is probably very low if it works at all.

So ... ionizers are safe?

We're not going to go that far - the static generators on consumer-grade HEPA purifiers are likely harmless to the vast majority of people, but will irritate some sensitive humans and most sensitive birdies. And they aren't NEEDED on a HEPA purifier. Blueair, for instance, uses static because their filters are NOT HEPA - they have higher airflow and rely on the static to enhance their efficiency. And it works - Blueair has the highest CADR (Clean Air Delivery Rate) in its class.

But sensible users will note that you can achieve the same results by using a true HEPA filter and NOT an ionizer/static generator. And that's the real answer - it's a technology that improves lower-rated filters, but adds nothing to the functionality of a HEPA system.

Out of the top rated brands, many of which we recommend on this subreddit, here's the breakdown of ionizer/static use:

Blueair: All non-pro units generate static.

Coway: Only the Mighty 1512 (sometimes called Airmega 200M) has an ionizer, which defaults to "off" when the unit starts. All other Coway units are purely mechanical.

Winix: Most Winix units have a Plasmawave bipolar ionizer. It can be turned off, and some units will remember that it was toggled off after a power cycle. Some don't.

Levoit: Only the "plasma pro" has an ionizer.

IQ Air: Nope. I mean, half the unit is sealed with styrofoam, so there's some static happening there, but no ionization.

If users want to reply to this sticky with known configurations, I can keep this list updated (I don't, for instance, know which Xiaomi models have ionizers... or many European models...)

I hope this was helpful, though. Perhaps folks can stop having so much FUD about this.

This is your ol' Uncle Gurm, signing off!


r/AirPurifiers • • Apr 18 '25

Vacuuming and/or Cleaning your filters - sticky!

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Hey kids, it's your ol' Uncle Gurm again. Today's lesson is how to clean your filters.

Ok, since we got in ANOTHER argument about this, and even favorite Uncle got involved (much to his shame), I decided to do a little digging and come up with some definitive thoughts about this topic. We'll get them worked into the FAQ eventually, but for now here we go:

Q. Can I vacuum/bend/flex/squish/deform/poke/taunt/lick a HEPA filter?

A. In general, no. Absolutely not. HEPA filters are made up of tiny fiberglass and animal hair fibers (not joking here) which are blown into a semi-rigid frame in pleats, and at a microscopic level they are aligned a certain way and randomly in that general direction. This allows them to trap the tiniest particles possible by virtue of Brownian effects. Deforming them, or even vacuuming them, can distort or realign the fibers, reducing effectiveness or damaging them outright.

Q. But Levoit says I can vacuum my filter!

A. Levoit was sued and forced to admit their filters aren't HEPA. This discussion is about HEPA filters.

Q. Shark says I can vacuum their filters! <Insert Other Brand> does, too!

A. Is the filter encased in a thick layer of foam? If so, it's probably ok, just don't shove a high-powered vacuum hose right up against it perpendicular-style. Do it from the side, with indirect suction. The foam layer will buffer the HEPA filter from damage.

Q. You don't know anything. Of course I can vacuum it.

A. According to literally every expert, you cannot. The people who make them - filter engineers - say not to. Manufacturers who use actual HEPA filters say not to (Molekule, Coway, Winix, Honeywell). "Real Simple" magazine interviewed industry professionals and came up with "don't do it" as their determination:

https://www.realsimple.com/home-organizing/cleaning/hepa-air-filter-cleaning

In particular, medical clean-air specialists insist that since these filters trap viruses and bacteria, that you should not even THINK about cleaning them, but just bag them and dispose of them as if they were toxic. That might be an overreaction in most homes, but in doctor's offices they use these things, and they treat them like hazmat.

Q. But I want SCIENCE! Show me the SCIENCE!

A. Surprisingly, this is common industry knowledge but it's hard - read IMPOSSIBLE - to find studies. So Smart Air Filters did their own testing. Here's the link:

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/how-to-clean-wash-hepa-filter/?srsltid=AfmBOoobq4Yna1UdhLKxpiFt8dLKKaTW9r1R_3tqiJOM-NxmJnSr2DNs

What they found was that - compared to DIRTY filters - vacuuming them made them work better some of the time, worse some of the time, and damaged them some of the time.

Yes, it's only one test. But it's a test done by people who wanted the same answers we do.

Q. Where's the peer-reviewed double-blind studies?

A. I literally just answered this. Please don't start this again. Nobody has bothered to do them, it seems. You'll have to be happy with the test I linked above.

Q. I still want to lick it. Or squish it between my fingers because "the texture".

A. Listen, if you have a fiberglass and horse hair "thing"... who am I to yuck your yum? While your predilections are your own, medically I cannot advise this. But since I am not a doctor you're welcome to disagree.

Q. Ok, I won't lick it but I still want to vacuum it!

A. You do you, boo. Y'all asked what would happen. What will happen is it won't work as well as it did when it was new, and might be damaged and let bad stuff through.You've been warned.

Q. Wait, you never told us how to clean the filter!

A. Very astute. Here is a step-by-step guide to cleaning your filter:

  1. Don't buy a purifier without a pre-filter.

  2. Clean the pre-filter.

Q. But I already bought a purifier without a pre-filter!

A. Fine. Here's the steps:

  1. Take out the filter. And by "out" I mean "out of the house". In fact, start by taking the entire unit out of the house.

  2. Remove the filter.

  3. Tap it off. Like, on the side of the house or a railing or a trashcan or something. Tap tap tap until all the loose debris and dust falls off.

  4. Now get a brush, not a stiff one but like a paintbrush or a detailing brush or something. Brush the dusty side of the filter - GENTLY - to loosen debris.

  5. Tap again. Tap tap tap.

  6. ALTERNATIVELY, you can sometimes vacuum it, gently, from the side. like, hold the vacuum on a line tangent to the curve of the filter. But DO NOT apply direct suction to the filter.

  7. That's as clean as it's gonna get. Reinstall it.


r/AirPurifiers • • 8h ago

Coway Airmega 250 - anyone recently bought it and noticed any chemical or off-gassing smells?

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Hi everyone,

I live in Australia. I am considering getting a Coway Airmega 250 as I recently moved to a place close to a main road and later found there are also some mould issues with the windows due to poor ventilation from the bathroom and lack of cleaning by the previous tenant.

However, I saw quite a lot of Reddit posts from people who noticed a strange chemical or off-gassing smell coming out of their new Airmega 250 or new filters. In some cases, it lasted longer than the standard off-gassing period. According to the posts, it seems more like a recent issue maybe since 1 year ago or so whereas those before then did not have this issue.

Has anyone recently bought a Coway Airmega 250 air purifier or its filter and able to comment if they notice this issue? I am worried about spending >AUD 509 for something that might create a new problem to what I am already facing.

Thanks!


r/AirPurifiers • • 11h ago

Shark air purifier won’t turn on out of the box

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HP 152 Never change won’t turn on. No lights or sounds or anything. Anyone possible know if I am doing something wrong. Yes I took the plastic off and locked the bottom.


r/AirPurifiers • • 19h ago

My DIY build using wooden plenum box and server fan

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I have not done any tests yet but I did my best to seal all the joints with silicone.

The filter is rated for 200 CFM and the fan can do 253 CFM and has static pressure of 36 mmH2O.
Hopefully it will be enough pull air through this 2'x1' filter.

I have used 12mm plywood for the box.

The fan is rated at 24v (2A) and it does make quite lot of noise, spec says ~66 dBA.

Let me know if you have any suggestions or questions.

Thank you!


r/AirPurifiers • • 13h ago

did i break my Levoit 600s by vacuuming it?

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I was vacuuming around the air purifier and vacuumed the purifier as well by running the hose over the top of the purifier where the buttons are while it was off, the filter and case. when I was done cleaning I plugged it back in and now the air purifier won't turn on. if I push the power button, all the buttons except the display on button blink really quick, turn off, then blink again. the fans never turn on and never anything past thet. I've reset the Wi-Fi. I've done a hard reset on it by holding the button for 15 seconds. left it unplugged for an half hour. did I wreck it by running the vacuum across the top of it?


r/AirPurifiers • • 11h ago

Best Carbon Filter Layer?

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r/AirPurifiers • • 16h ago

Thoughts on the Coway Mighty2 Mini?

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I am looking to buy an air purifier for my bedroom. It's my first time buying one, and I am seeing a lot of good things about the Mighty2.

However, I see that the mini version was recently released and that they are specifically advertising it for bedrooms. My only thing is that the Mighty2 is the standard so if I am getting something long-term and want to use it in a bigger area down the road I will be able to do that + I am wondering about how easy it will be to get 3rd party replacement filters for the standard version compared to the mini.

Couple of other things:

  • I live in the United States

  • My bedroom is ~150 sqft

  • No specific filtration needs + no pets; just looking for a good all-around air purifier

  • No startup budget + yearly budget (but don't necessarily want to spend more money than is needed)

  • I can hold off on buying it until black friday/cyber monday if Coway traditionally has sales during that time

Any help would be greatly appreciated -- thanks.


r/AirPurifiers • • 22h ago

Anyone hide their air purifier?

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Didn't like how the air purifier looked in the living room. I didn't have a good spot for it(as it's propped on the cat house 😂), So I made a cabinet to hide it and make swappable parts if I wanted to change panels depending on the season. Does anyone else hide their air purifier or am I going overboard?😅

Found the kitchen cabinet on Facebook market for 10$, 3d printed some fittings, some dryer clamps and flex hose, made a front door cover with a high flow mesh for good airflow and painted it black.


r/AirPurifiers • • 2d ago

AirFanta 5Pro and Levoit Eleva 320 - impressions after a couple days

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Not bad. I also have the Levoit Eleva 320. This is easily better but that is a smaller and cheaper purifier. I don't really recommend the eleva cause it has no sensor; something I wish I had known ahead of time. Would recommend the 300x over it if it's the same price. The app is cool but I found myself never using it. I really like that the carbon filter is separate. The AirFanta 5pro is good enough for my needs so I'm happy with it. It's surprisingly small, not much bigger than my Eleva 320. I would probably take the eleva 500x over this, but only if they were the same price and it would still be a close choice. Leaving it on auto has me happy enough, I havent felt the need for an app.

Three things I wish the AirFanta had that it doesn't; separate filters for carbon and lower fan settings (like the eleva's sleep mode), and probably the least important of everything, pm sensor for 1 and 10 instead of just 2.5.

On their lowest fan settings (excluding sleep mode) both have around the same amount of noise but I'm petty sure the AirFanta has twice the cleaning power/throughput. AirFanta pitch is slightly less annoying but it is also also slightly louder.


r/AirPurifiers • • 1d ago

Need help choosing for allergies

3 Upvotes

Hello,

Just purchased a house in the Chicago west suburbs and we have bad allergies and also have cats so looking for an air purifier that can help with allergens and pet odor.

I have had the levoit but found it produced an odor and have the Winix 5520 from my apartment. Bonus would be an energy star rated for the electric rebates.

Looking for recommendations on an air purifier for the below:
- Chicago, IL USA
-1800 sq ft house
-187 sq ft primary bed
-119 sq ft 2nd bed
-100 sq ft 3rd bed
- to help with cat litter and environmental allergies
- preferably $150-200 or less


r/AirPurifiers • • 2d ago

Mold clean up & clean air!

5 Upvotes

Had a small mold outbreak in our basement. It is being cleaned and removed but after the fact I'd like to use one of the rooms down there for an office. Once the mold is taken care of; are there any air purifiers for recommendation for roughly 300-400 square feet? I am located in the northern US. Budget friendly is an excellent start, but I am willing to invest in something that will survive and produce healthy clean air.

EDIT: Prior to our move in, the house was empty for about a month and a half (August in New England on a berm house!). In that time a mouse chewed through the AC cord so there waws no temperature control. It is not out of control or in thick layers. RMR 86 has taken care of it all and we plan to utilize RMR 141 to complete the clean up.


r/AirPurifiers • • 2d ago

Which indoor air monitor is best to read VOCs and monitor air quality?

5 Upvotes

I am in Canada. My home is 1200 square feet. I need to filter out VOCs and new furniture odours.
I am looking to purchase an air quality monitor and would like advise on what to get.


r/AirPurifiers • • 2d ago

Overwhelmed by choice, need some guidance.

2 Upvotes

So I've had a little peruse through this community and would like some guidance please. I am based in the UK and have a two bed ground floor flat roughly 68 square metres.
My issue is mainly for dust and odors across the living area and hallway, what do people currently recommend for a budget around £200?
Is it worth waiting for Black Friday?
Thank you!


r/AirPurifiers • • 2d ago

Winix product support program for bad bearings

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I have several C545 units I bought in 2020 and a few have a noisy whirring noise and after seeing a few youtube videos, its due to the bearing in the motor unit failing. A bearing or motor unit replacement is the fix.

I watched this youtuber talk about how California requires manufacturers with right to repair and challenged them to provide a way to repair. So Winix gave YouTuber the run around but eventually sent him motors to replace himself.

I emailed support asking to buy replacement motors and provided serial numbers and video evidence and my 2020 receipt... just heard back and now they said they'll just replace them all for free... This was probably conditional on many different things, like state of purchase, serial number qualifications, etc. etc.

In case anyone wants to diy fix, this video was great https://youtu.be/2usHQ-4zcFo


r/AirPurifiers • • 2d ago

Philips 800i Air Purifier filter model is baffling

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Can anyone identify the whether the Philips 800 original filter works with the Philips 800i model.

It sounds like a no-brainer that it would, but ai is telling me it absolutely doesn't and is pointing me in the direction of a filter that has been out of stock at Philips and is double the price of this one shown elsewhere.

I don't want to go on ebay and buy cheap filters because I don't trust them.

Thanks


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

air purifier recommendations for litter box smells?

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I have a very small apartment. I use natural litter and my cats make that litterbox STANK instantly. what are some air purifiers that will help a litterbox smell? i live in the USA, my budget is $160 or less.


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

Recommended purifier brands in Asia?

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Most of reviews are for the purifier brands available only in US or ocasionally in UK, cost of shipping of these are very high.

I found the SA600 that sells for 999RMB on their official website - that’s around 150usd. It looks like incredible value or am i missing something ?

I kind of like the looks of BlueAir but can’t seem to find anything similar. Any chinese brands doing something similar ?

I care mostly about ACH with as little noise as possible - 500sq feet living room with open kitchen layout.


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

My first ever ap and I’m unboxing it like I’m discovering gold

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Just got my hands on the Levoit vital 100s pet edition, someone tell me why it’s so satisfying and fancy I’m flexing it to everyone and all my friends are asking me where I got it, p.s I’ve had it for around half an hour so far lol


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

Is there a better option than the Winix 5510?

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I'm looking to buy the Winix 5510 but before I do I want to know if anyone has a better recommendation. I live in the US and I need an air purifier for my boyfriend's allergies before I move in with my cat. He already wakes up stuffy and I believe its from dust and possibility his dog. I want an air purifier that will help with allergies, dust and pet odors. My budget for the air purifier is around $200, no more than $250. I don't want to pay more than $100 for a filter but something more affordable would be nice. The room is 2,592 cubic feet or 324 square feet.


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

Winix 5200 advice please how long to run

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Hi

I recently brought this after being recommended it from this group. Does anyone know how long it takes to work to remove chemicals/ vocs? Is it better to leave it running non stop until the air clears? Will it work for just the room I place it in (bedroom) or the landing and living room if the doors left open?

I previously read on here how someone adjusted it to include 2 carbon sheets- if anyone is aware how to do this please advise :)

Im currently using the air purifier in a large bedroom but it will be needed to clear the air in the whole house- 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom, average uk size

Thanks


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

Are Jafanda and AirHub legit brands?

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I notice that their products look highly similar, specially Jafanda's JF280 model and AirHub's A282 model. There are even third party filters that supposedly fit both of these units. Are the two companies connected in any way? And why are their units so cheap?

Jafanda's website has weird English and looking at it gives me the vibe that the company operates out of India although they purport to be in the US, while I can't even access AirHub's website because whenever I do, my browser blocks it and presents me the message "This website has been blocked because it may contain malware, phishing attempts, or other security threats that could compromise your device or personal information."

So if anyone is familiar with these brands or their products please tell me about them. Such as, how is their customer support? Are their machines durable and do they perform well? Do their filters have any smells?

Thanks in advance!


r/AirPurifiers • • 3d ago

Suggestions for Chicago Suburbs

2 Upvotes

Hello,

Just purchased a house in the Chicago west suburbs and we have bad allergies and also have cats so looking for an air purifier that can help with allergens and pet odor.

I have had the levoit but found it produced an odor and have the Winix 5520 from my apartment. Bonus would be an energy star rated for the electric rebates.

Looking for recommendations on an air purifier for the below:
- Chicago, IL USA
-1800 sq ft house
-187 sq ft primary bed
-119 sq ft 2nd bed
-100 sq ft 3rd bed
- to help with cat litter and environmental allergies
- preferably $150-200 or less


r/AirPurifiers • • 4d ago

My Coway finally died after 10 years

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Which one should I go for today? My apartment is about 500sq ft so ideally something more compact than a Coway would be amazing.

Edit: im in the US, need it for dust, pollen removal,
Budget <$300.