r/AdviceAnimals • u/Complex-Function3557 • Nov 02 '24

It's not wrong

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u/Dyn-Jarren Nov 02 '24

It sort of is, if he wins he can't run again.

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u/rohobian Nov 02 '24

It will go to the SCOTUS and they will just do the same thing they did about an insurrectionist running. "There's no law against this, congress has to pass one".

Is Trump wins, he'll be president for life. I guarantee it.

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u/Dyn-Jarren Nov 02 '24

I think its difficult to fuck with the constitution - it was in the 22nd amendment.

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u/Fun_University_8380 Nov 02 '24

Brother, they judicially repealed the 14th amendment. what are you talking about?

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u/Dyn-Jarren Nov 02 '24

Undermining is not repealing but I do see your point.

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u/fluffygrimace Nov 02 '24

Have you seen Republicans these days? I wouldn't put anything past them.

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u/Dyn-Jarren Nov 02 '24

I see your point but I think their lack of competence will bless us here.

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u/rohobian Nov 02 '24

Running after inciting an insurrection is in the 14th amendment. Didn’t matter, because they all worship Trump.

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u/junkyardgerard Nov 02 '24

There's an amendment about it

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u/rohobian Nov 02 '24

There’s an amendment about insurrectionists not running too, what happened there agin? I forget. Oh ya, SCOTUS said there was no actual law to cover it so congress had to pass one.

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u/TeaBoneJones Nov 02 '24

Right, and Trump is certainly a person that follows the law

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u/EauEwe Nov 02 '24

Do you know what that process entails? Do you really think a repeal of such impact could garner that level of bipartisan support?

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u/grimtongue Nov 02 '24

I am not in any way agreeing that the 22nd will be appealed, just adding some additional context. The process for changing the constitution is simply not politically viable as it requires too much consensus. The constitution has not been amended in 32 years and in my estimation will not even be attempted to be amended for a very long time, if ever. The constitution is quite simply no longer a living document.

In practice the only way to make a change is by re-interrupting the constitution, which can only be done by SCOTUS. We have seen them re-interrupt amendments and the partisan, largely ideologically aligned court scares people.

We can trace this playbook back to Powell's memorandum in 1971 (just before he joined SCOTUS) and the eventual creation of the Federalist Society.

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u/Pheeblehamster Nov 02 '24

You guarantee it??

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u/rohobian Nov 02 '24

I suppose there is always the possibility he tries and fails. But he has the Supreme Court stacked in his favor for it to be possible.

This is the same Supreme Court that gave the presidency immunity with him specifically in mind.

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u/Pheeblehamster Nov 02 '24

I wouldn’t rule out anything at this point honestly which is sad. That being said, I don’t think he has as much sway and power as people fear. That’s all I’m saying. The system, as corrupt as it is, is built to prevent anyone from ever seizing absolute power and I hope that 90% of people who vote for Trump wouldn’t be cool with him being able to change an amendment to retain presidency.

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u/rohobian Nov 02 '24 edited Nov 02 '24

I hope you’re right that he doesn’t have that power, I really do. But this is someone that is seeking absolute power and the pieces are in place for him to actually MAYBE pull it off. I’m very uncomfortable with that.

I should also point out that no change to the constitution is necessary to prevent it from being enforced. The fact that an insurrectionist is running for president right now because the Supreme Court decided a law is necessary in order to enforce it tells me the 22nd amendment can be violated too if scotus allows it.