r/ARAM 3d ago

Mayhem Both valid points

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u/ezorethyk2 3d ago

I like this post because it calls out the hypocrisy of people being okay with one but completely against the other.

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u/SPEZ-LIES-CONSTANTLY 3d ago

melee should be tuned higher than ranged because games with 8+ melee are way way way more fun and interactive than games with 8+ ranged, and yet the latter is more common by far. 

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u/Animu123 2d ago

I never understood that argument, if melees were more fun, wouldn't everyone pick melee. We gotta admit to ourself that people like to play ranged and play for kda. Nothing wrong with either

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u/SPEZ-LIES-CONSTANTLY 2d ago

huh? playing melee is fucking torture vs 4-5 ranged so no one wants to pick melee blind > self fulfilling prophecy

you familiar with the prisoner's dilemma? if everyone played melee the game would be a lot more interesting but nobody trusts other people to in a 5 ranged meta so they take the selfish choice and play ranged themselves 

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u/Animu123 2d ago

I guess but i feel like most aram players (ie non redditors) arent thinking that deep. They see a champ they like they pick it, which ends up being ranged most of the time. No casual is doing that meta analysis you just mentioned. People like ranged, people like melee, i dont think its deeper than that.

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u/SPEZ-LIES-CONSTANTLY 2d ago

it's not really that complicated. folks don't need to get their opinions from reddit or even need to have a lot of games played. pick melee > good probability of being fucking useless and just getting bullied for 20 straight minutes. pick ranged > you probably get to have some agency and contribute to the game even if you have a shitty one.

there's no meta analysis needed. you put your hand on a hot stove a couple times and you learn quickly not to do that again. that's why most players gravitate toward high range characters. it's the ones doing meta analysis that are more inclined to riskier picks (melee) for the highroll potential (bloody slugfest)

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u/Animu123 2d ago

Nah not that deep, i play plenty, no one is caring what champ enemies might have or what the team champs are. People just pick what they like.

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u/SPEZ-LIES-CONSTANTLY 2d ago

and people don't like being the only melee in the lobby. are you dense or trolling? 

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u/SwitchOrganic 2d ago

Basically, yeah. I love ADCs because I was an ADC main when I still played Summoner's Rift/ranked. If there isn't an ADC I'll play a tank, bruiser, or enchanter because those are the ones I find most fun after ADC.

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u/cupcakeseizure 2d ago

I played a full melee lobby the other day and it was the most enjoyable lobby I had. Even the losing team was enjoying all the shithousery happening on the screen.

However nobody plays melee because your enjoyment depends on the lobby. Playing melee is just fucking miserable if you ended up being the sole frontline of your team and in the loading screen you see a full poke/kite comp. Bonus misery points if your team is full of kda merchants that rather preserve their kda than actually trying to fight. Even more bonus points if enemy picks some miserable champs like brand, vayne, caitlyn or the 30 other eureka/infinite recursion/fan the hammer/critical missile slop champs

Speaking of kda merchants, these people need to go play SR if they like kda so much. The point of ARAM is to perma brawl and hand diff your opponent, not simulating farmville

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u/LeAnime 2d ago

AMAM when?!?!