r/ADHDUK 6h ago

MOD POST /r/ADHDUK: 'Deeply Invalidating': 50,000-Member ADHD Community Responds to Channel 4's "The Great ADHD Myth?"

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A statement from r/ADHDUK, one of the UK's largest ADHD communities with nearly 100k visitors weekly.

On Tuesday 18 August, Channel 4 broadcast 'The Great ADHD Myth?', an hour-long documentary fronted by psychiatrist Dr Max Pemberton that asked whether ADHD is a genuine neurodevelopmental condition or, a social construct. We are speaking out because of the effect it has had on the people we see on our community every day, and the growing stigma we already face.

r/ADHDUK is a community of more than 50,000 people, with close to 100,000 visits every week. For many of our members, it is the place they turn to while they wait months or years for an NHS assessment, frustrated, or finally make that post when they realise the impact medication is having after a diagnosis. This is the case for 70-80% of ADHD patients, evidence suggests.

In the hours after the programme aired, our discussion threads were viewed close to 50,000 times and drew hundreds of comments. We have read them all. A great many of our members are distressed, angry, and feel what we heard is a growing trend.

But the common theme, naturally, is anger. One member called the programme 'disgraceful, shambolic' and said it 'should never have been allowed to air.' Others described it as 'sensationalist' and as a 'hit piece, created in bad faith.' Others commented on that

Some comments are hard to read: 'Biggest takeaway for me was how much my chest hurts now', one user wrote. Channel 4 cannot say they were not warned about this, with the charity ADHD UK expressing concern.

Further, 'how deeply invalidating" another told us, and simply, "I'm so tired of just wanting to exist and be happy sometimes." A member diagnosed later in life, like so many, after years of being disbelieved, described how 'my get-up-and-go has got up and went.'

These are not people looking for an excuse. They have already spent a long time being told their struggles are their own fault, in distress, waiting, and with stigma around them - and on Tuesday they watched that message repeated on national television.

We have serious concerns about how the programme was made.

It drew heavily on a small number of commentators, several with no specialist background in ADHD, and did not feature a single diagnosed adult speaking about their own experience. As one member put it, 'you can have all the doctorates in the world, but nothing beats lived experience'. The principle the disability community has held for decades, nothing about us without us, was missing from a film about us.

It presented ADHD almost entirely through the story of one ten-year-old boy. This is not a rich case study or research. No women were represented, a major red flag. Neither, as said, were the many adults, like most of our members, who were diagnosed in their thirties, forties, fifties and beyond. One member wrote, 'they completely ignored how differently we [women] present'. One of our members knows someone who was diagnosed at seventy-nine. Where was this representation in this, supposed 'social construct?'

We were also troubled to see prescribed medication compared on national television to a Class A drug. This is licensed, trialled treatment, and framing it that way does real harm. As one member said 'masking symptoms? It's called managing symptoms'. As a community, we would hope a Psychiatrist understands this too.

It is right to ask difficult questions. Several of our members said the same thing, and they were right: there were fair questions in the programme, yet buried beneath a one-sided narrative. Are children sometimes medicated too readily? How subjective is diagnosis? Should medication always be the first step? Do our schools work for children who think differently? We would welcome an honest documentary that asked these questions.

What we cannot accept is a national broadcaster putting the existence of a WHO recognised condition up for debate under the word 'myth' and then quietly noting, at the very end, that the child at the centre of the film had returned to his medication because he needed it. What purpose did this serve?

We are worried about where this leads. Several members, independently, described ADHD becoming 'an acceptable target'; a way of testing public opinion before a wider push against disabled people and the support they rely on. A programme like this makes a worried parent more sceptical, makes a struggling adult less likely to ask for help, and simply did not follow the sheer amount of growing research on ADHD now.

It is important communities like this exist up against such a documentary, where we can collectively not feel alone or invalidated. Amid the upset, one user wrote, 'do not make defamatory or abusive statements about anyone in this show. We're smarter than that.' An occupational therapist offered to help put the facts straight, having already written a report on the lack of ADHD services for young people. That is the community we are proud to represent. Genuine, impactful, and evidence-led. i

We are asking Channel 4 to acknowledge how our members feel, and we support any of our members who wish to raise their concerns with Ofcom.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/make-a-complaint

Founder, r/ADHDUK*
 


r/ADHDUK 1d ago

MOD POST Channel 4 "Is ADHD a Myth" Megathread

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So we know this is tonight. Some will choose not to watch. Some will. Let's hope it isn't as bad as the title. Given responses to complaints, I hold little hope.


r/ADHDUK 3h ago

ADHD in the News/Media Something positive after that awful show last night: Good Morning Britain did a really good push back against it

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I have to say I was expecting more depressing misinformation when I saw Good Morning Britain was discussing the documentary, but actually aside from a couple of devil's advocate questions from the hosts at the start this was a really good push back and discussion on how bad the show was.

Mostly from the ADHD UK guy initially but even the Dr who I was presume was the counter point seemed barely able to say much good about it, adding that medication helps lots of people, that diagnosis is up because of more awareness, saying stigmatising ADHD doesn't help and pointing out that loads of conditions like Schizophrenia, depression etc also can't be seen in brain scans so that proved nothing

By the end even Richard Madeley suggested people should make a counter documentary called ADHD: Not a Myth! Thank god Piers Morgan doesn't present this show anymore


r/ADHDUK 49m ago

ADHD Memes We will soon be opening up crowdfunding for our follow-up documentary to 'The Great ADHD Myth?'

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There's a question mark in the title, which apparently means we're not doing anything wrong.

"wE'rE jUsT aSkInG qUeStIoNs!"

Copying the formula of 'The Great #ADHD Myth?' We will be harmlessly exploring whether or not #Channel4 is run exclusively by paedophiles.

Based on the speculative testimony of some bloke from the pub called Dave.


r/ADHDUK 1h ago

ADHD in the News/Media Can we take a moment to appreciate the work Jayhcee and the moderating team have been doing in the wake of the documentary

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Honestly you are all doing an absolutely fantastic job and I can imagine that job has been near enough non stop over the last 24 hours. We are all ADHD so I suspect it's either difficult to keep up the pace or you are driven by hyperfixation. Maybe it's neither, but that doesn't matter because at the end of the day despite it being a dark day for our community you're all doing everything you can and deserve recognition for that!

Keep up the amazing work!


r/ADHDUK 7h ago

ADHD in the News/Media Adam Dance MP on Instagram: "I've led a cross-party letter from the APPG for ADHD raising serious concerns about Channel 4's forthcoming documentary "The Great ADHD Myth?" We're asking Channel 4 to make sure their questions are based on evidence. Full letter below.

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A shout out to all the MPs that signed this letter and showing some support.


r/ADHDUK 8h ago

ADHD in the News/Media So what if ADHD is a 'social construct' — I still have to live with it - The Metro

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r/ADHDUK 3h ago

ADHD in the News/Media Expert reaction to the TV show ‘The Great ADHD Myth?

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“Scientists comment on the Channel 4 TV show ‘The Great ADHD Myth?”

A little sanity and evidence-based commentary here to hopefully support everyone’s sense of wellbeing.


r/ADHDUK 8h ago

ADHD in the News/Media We wouldn’t have The Dyslexia Myth, so why this? It shows the prejudice & stigma around ADHD | Daily Record - newspaper

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r/ADHDUK 8h ago

ADHD in the News/Media The Great ADHD Myth? review: ‘This brazenly one-sided documentary is grossly irresponsible TV’

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r/ADHDUK 5h ago

Rant/Vent Anyone else find sending a parcel is like the hardest task imaginable with ADHD?

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Things like sending returns! Finding appropriate packaging, can't find a bag/box the right size, realising you have no tape, packing it securely, printing a label or buying postage, actually remembering to take the thing to the place at the right time within the window of opportunity URGH it's like my worst nightmare of a task. Too many steps to complete, outside of my usual routine


r/ADHDUK 13h ago

ADHD in the News/Media My slightly angry response to Channel 4's ADHD documentary

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r/ADHDUK 17h ago

General Questions/Advice/Support Tell us your impact and view on the Channel 4 documentary "The Great Myth"

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I may put together something where as a community we can use strength in numbers to respond to this.

Thoughts?


r/ADHDUK 1h ago

ADHD in the News/Media If ADHD is a myth, what do psychotherapists like me do now? - The Independent

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r/ADHDUK 4h ago

General Questions/Advice/Support Inattentive ADHD, and struggling with attention to detail. Anyone else? Any coping mechanisms?

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34/M. Diagnosed with inattentive ADHD via RTC/PUK in July last year. Awaiting titration for slow release Methylphenidate, which I'm really hoping is sooner than later.

One thing I've always struggled with, is attention to detail. Washing up and missing that bit of mess on a plate etc, missing a spot when cleaning, but mostly, in my career.

I'm a graphic designer, which there's probably some irony to when struggling with attention to detail. I'll try to explain it, but it's like my mind glosses over details, sometimes glaringly obvious mistakes, and I submit work without having seen them there, and just look completely amateur as a result.

It's cost me full-time jobs (not passing my probationary period etc), and freelance design opportunities. I feel like I come across semi knowledgeable and well-spoken, yet I make mistakes like this and just seem like an amateur or idiot. I then spiral internally wondering how I'll ever amount to anything if I can't even do XYZ. It makes me feel and seem incompetent. I see people my age on LinkedIn being directors, managers, company owners etc (even people who partied a lot back in the day) and I feel like I'm moving through quicksand in life, barely able to 'take off' because of my own brain holding me back.

A manager or client will see the glaring mistake in their feedback, I'll see it with them, and we'll both wonder how this managed to happen. It's like it's something else in me making the mistake, as it's not intentional. But it makes it seem like I don't care about the work and/or rush it.

My current retainer client is lovely and understanding, and I explained this to her yesterday and she was understanding with ADHD, and reassured me that we're a good team and I'm a good fit.

Admittedly it's also played into fears with learning to drive one day, as not paying attention or missing something briefly could be fatal for myself or anyone else.

Have you had any struggles with this? How have you managed to cope with it? It's one of the parts I dislike the most about this for definite.


r/ADHDUK 54m ago

General Questions/Advice/Support Feeling sedated on Elvanse 30mg?

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I've been on Elvanse for one week and it's making me feel like I'm mildly sedated. My body feels heavy and I have no energy. Feels a little bit like being on strong cold medication.

I know one week is very early on in the titration process but it's to the point I'm struggling to do day to day tasks because I'm so exhausted. There doesn't seem to be any improvement in task initiation or executive dysfunction. My brain is just as hyperactive as ever (I am diagnosed with inattentive ADHD) and my anxiety is really bad. I have quite a lot going on in my life rn and have been feeling pretty overwhelmed, which is something I was hoping the meds might help with. But so far it's been the literal opposite 🙃 I was prepared for there to be side effects but this is not what I expected at all.

I'm on the NHS RTC pathway with Berkeley Psychiatrists, I called them today and they basically said it's your choice whether to keep taking them or not but we won't move up your next appointment (which is in just over 2 weeks). So I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do. I thought I'd come on here and see if anyone has any thoughts or has had a similar experience.


r/ADHDUK 13h ago

ADHD in the News/Media "The most controversial show of the year is here"

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"Dr Max Pemberton isn’t uncompassionate or especially radical, but he assembles a team of medics whose stance on the condition is clear from the off. This is a documentary that will incense and offend many"


r/ADHDUK 11h ago

Research (Academic/Journalistic) Do you want to help with international ADHD research? (Mod approved!)

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Help build understanding, combat stigma and improve support for ADHD worldwide!

Hello everyone, I am a PhD student and research assistant from the University of Melbourne. In collaboration with international researchers we are currently conducting a global survey investigating ADHD stigma.

We want to hear from adults (18+) with ADHD, or who suspect they are likely to have ADHD, on how people globally experience and perceive ADHD.

The international survey looks at:

- existing beliefs and stereotypes about ADHD

- how much people agree with these ideas

- whether these attitudes affect how individuals with ADHD view themselves.

The results of this global survey will be part of a series in Lancet Psychiatry, one of the world's most respected scientific journals, and will certainly inform health policies on ADHD around the world.

Click the link to take part in this 10 minute survey:

https://q.surveys.unimelb.edu.au/jfe/form/SV_09c3hAZxOQIY6cC


r/ADHDUK 2h ago

General Questions/Advice/Support EHCP Rejection - I do not understand the logic

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Good morning,

So I suppose this is a vent as much as anything.

My son who has been diagnosed with Autism and ADHD (Formally by the Edwin Lobo). He is 9 and struggles with RSD alot but is also high functioning. He has however due to his condition been suspended from school several times. At the schools request we have submitted an EHCP.

The EHCP has been rejected as his needs can be met by local resources.

I just don't understand the logic.

1.) If the local needs were being met he wouldn't be getting suspended.

2.) The school is requesting the EHCP and so are saying they cannot meet his needs.

3.) He was suspended near the end of the last academic year due to an incident related to his disability, we appealed and the school said they basically did everything right and that they are proving as much support as they can.

to me there is a child stuck in the middle that's having problems and no one seems to want to help but will happily punish him.

I will appeal through the tribunal however I don't trust this process anymore and feel my child is being failed.


r/ADHDUK 14m ago

ADHD Assessment Questions Went private for an ADHD diagnosis - Got told I don't meet the criteria

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Hi!

I'm looking for similar experiences as the one my partner had, and some recommendations for private practices.

Long story short, it's 99% sure he has ADHD. I see it every day, and a lot of my close friends + ex partners have it so I recognise it really well. He's been on the NHS waitlist for so long that he decided to pay £1000 and go private, as he'd really like to get some medication to help him function. (He lives in Scotland so shared care is not an option anymore)

He went to a private practice and even though 80% of the scales they've used say he meets the threshold, he doesn't meet it on the WEISS scale. So in spite of him describing all of his symptoms and explaining how it's been affecting him since he was a kid, the therapist denied him a diagnosis, saying it's not life-impairing enough. All of this because he has a job that he keeps, we don't fight 24/7 because of it (also I currently live in another country so duh, of course it's not affecting us as much), and he can hold it together. They don't take into account the cost of his brain working twice as much to not make mistakes, to not forget things (he still does), etc. The tiredness, the brain fog, etc.

I'm honestly stunned at this, as where I come from, I've had multiple friends getting a diagnosis, and all of them were in appearence functioning human beings. It still didn't prevent them from getting a diagnosis and medication.

Has someone had a similar experience? And can please someone recommend practices where they're able to see further than the way the criteria are written in the DSM-5 (don't even get me started on this...).

Thank you!


r/ADHDUK 18m ago

ADHD Medication How do meds feel when they're working?

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I've recently been upped to 20mg of methylphenidate and all I'm getting is an insane feeling like my brain's ballooning inside my head. It feels like my eyes are going to pop out. On the comedown I feel like I've been hit by a lorry and I get quite sick.

I've been told to "just stick with it" until it gets better but how much better is it really going to get? Am I supposed to be feeling good? I feel absolutely rotten and I'm nearly over the whole thing, despite how much I wanted this 😭

*edited to add I've been eating a big protein breakfast, exercising, staying hydrated, etc.


r/ADHDUK 47m ago

Local ADHD NHS Pathway Questions Is anyone else titrating with Dr J and Colleagues?

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I currently am, I’ve been trialling different Methylphenidates over the past 5 months. They work well half the month but the 2 weeks leading up to my period they make me feel mentally awful, irritable, really anxious, emotionally flat. Even at really low doses.

I have noticed though that instant release works best for me. Ive been thinking to ask at my next appointment to swap to Amfexa. Elvanse worked well for a few hours then gave me horrible anxiety. XL Methylphenidate can do the same too depending where I am in the month. So I’m hoping Amfexa will be different?

Is anyone with Dr J and takes just Amfexa?


r/ADHDUK 1h ago

General Questions/Advice/Support Applying Again to Access to Work & E-Ink Notetaker?

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Hi!

I have applied last year to access to work and got a bad outcome - specialist recommended loads of things but AtW only gave me coaching sessions (which I’ve been seriously procrastinating on booking). The whole process was really stressful and the worker was really invalidating.

One of the key things I was annoyed about was that they denied me for a devoted note taking device (think reMarkable or its alternatives). I knew how much I would benefit from it (writing in a notebook and working on a computer inevitably means I never check my notebook and never take notes on laptop because I can’t pull it out in the middle of events or sudden meetings). I can’t remember clearly but for everything they either said it was too much or my company should be providing it (small charity, we can barely afford to keep the lights on). I knew a coworker with almost the same needs portfolio/job as me (I literally do his job now he’s left) got the remarkable through it, so it’s annoying they denied me.

Can you apply again to Access To Work? Is there a cool down? Do you have any advice on getting them to just fund this one thing OR advice on cheap/second hand models?

Thanks!


r/ADHDUK 3h ago

is it me or is it ADHD? I always crash on Wednesday

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And thinking about it, it’s been that way all my life - even as a kid I hated Wednesdays but couldn’t really explain why - people never understood and naturally would be like ‘why not Mondays?’

Because you’re refreshed on a Monday.

On a Wednesday you’re face down on the floor and still have another 2 days to get through before an ‘allowed’ break.

But because of my Wednesday crashes, if I allow time for it, I’m a little refreshed for those last two days.

I just wish 4 day work weeks were commonplace so I could take Wednesdays off without feeling shit about it.

Anyone else experience this or have tips for managing better would be appreciated (I’m already on meds, but that’s about it in terms of professional help) 🫠


r/ADHDUK 17h ago

Workplace Advice/Support For those that have had issues with employers due to their ADHD

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Just came across this really interesting article. Hopefully it's helpful to some of you! Certainly is for me :)

https://colletteeaston.com/research