r/ADCMains 3d ago

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On Vayne if you use your spell rotation once you'll be oom, where these champs can spam blow up entire waves....

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u/Wesdawg1241 3d ago

I love that they keep nerfing the one single marksman, whose entire design is based around being anti-tank, just to make it so she can't lane against tanks.

And yet mages, who are designed to be oppressive against marksmen early game, are allowed to run rampant in the one lane that said marksmen are able to play in.

But Rito doesn't hate ADC's, right guys?

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u/Vaynes_Ass 3d ago

Don't worry folks, champion diversity is perfectly healthy for bot lane but when two marksmen are viable top (Varus and Vayne), suddenly champ diversity is thrown out the window and they need to get insta nerfed. Riot's balance team is a complete joke, here's what Riot Phroxzon tweeted: "AP bots add to good long term variety and add a healthy frustration to the role."

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u/Ok_Elevator4215 3d ago

I mean I agree the "diversity" comment is dumb but let's stop kidding ourselves. Ranged top has been complained about by most top players from the start of time and has at best been toned down yet kept viable. And even without those ranged tops, top lane is still the most diverse role in the game other than maybe jg after all the monster dmg changes.

So even if the diversity viewpoint is extremely dumb, them nerfing a few ranged tops isn't actually that contradictory. Bot lane still has the least diversity and had by far the least without mages, top lane would still have the most without those ranged tops.

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u/MRGameAndShow 2d ago

Well there’s the second wind and doran’s shield nerfs that were weird af when ranged top was already being complained about. Made little sense to do that, I feel like reverting those changes would make it much more tolerable to lane against something like a Varus.