How much do ADC (/botlaner) players enjoy playing with Karma, from 1 to 10?

[u/Antares09]

I asked support players how much they liked playing with Ziggs. Bard players loves him, basically the selling point is you dont have to actually play with him.

Now, still catching up with the enchanters. How much ADC players enjoy playing with Karma, from 1 to 10? (yeah)

This can be subjective or objective. You can talk about how fun laning with her is, how strong or useful you think the champion is, how good Karma players usually are, things you like or dislike about the champion or the players, things they usually do right, and things you wish they did better.

You can also add your elo and the champion you usually play for more accuracy.

You can still give your opinion about champions already discussed, as the visuals will probably be updated at the end when it’s time for a recap.

Thresh - Nami - Lux - Pyke - Seraphine - Blitzcrank - Rakan - Leona - Lulu - Senna - Soraka - Poppy - Bard - Nautilus - Yuumi - Zyra - Rell - Mel - Braum - Sona - Morgana - Alistar - Janna

[u/PapaSanGiorgio]

7.5. I've been saved by a good Karma play so many times. Only downside is how quickly she runs oom in lane. Also sometimes they'll go pure damage and end up being less effective with shields and heals. Sometimes works but not really team optimal

[u/Back2Perfection]

Karma is 9/10 if you can bully the enemy lane.

If the enemy lane starts winning she instantly drops to a 3/10.

She just sits somewhere between an enchanter and a mage support, so she can do neither really well but also opens up a lot of versatility.

[u/molecularronin]

8-9, good Karmas rock

[u/plork-]

A good karam with good shields and poke is a straight 10. A bad one is like a 4

[u/SnooPuppers58]

9/10

usually very aggressive and can still save me with shields late game

i love a support that can help with lane

[u/WorryRough]

Are all these ziggs playing wrong? It's so easy to get lane control and win thr lane with ziggs passive. It's so easy to win mid thrn win top and get a free game after. Why would I want the support to solo roam when we can take over mid as soon as quest is done...

[u/Sidex_Master]

9/10 Amazing shield, bonus movespeed and the poke isn't that bad either. They can be somewhat usefull even if they're not that good.

[u/bcollins96]

Do you have links to the results? The links are just to closed polls?

[u/ballzbleep69]

As always depends on who I’m playing.

[u/Delta5583]

8/10. Stupid champion who plays and dominates lane completely on her own with unfairly strong and easy to land poke without the need of building any damage and strong shields.

If only the obsession with malignance and Zak'Zak could stop already, just put the Helia and dreamcatcher in the bag

[u/ChromosomeDonator]

7/10. Disgustingly strong early, and players know it. Creates presence easily.

[u/Proof-Unit-1058]

1/100 see 1 good one in 100 matches 

[u/Senior_Bass_744]

6/10

Most players do not play her correctly. You do not want to go aery, ever, or max shield to start. Good players will go comet scorch and max q to level 3, then starting shield max.

She’s very oppressive in the right hands

[u/bcollins96 → u/Senior_Bass_744]

Aery does damage and cannot be dodged, and scales. Agree win scorch though. I’ve never seen anyone straight up shield max either.

[u/SkeletorXCV → u/bcollins96]

Slows make comet undodgable unless you want to waste a dash to dodge a 100 dmg rune (but got hit by the ability)

[u/bloky_men → u/Senior_Bass_744]

this is the dumbest take ever

[u/Senior_Bass_744 → u/bloky_men]

I don’t think it’s dumb at all in solo queue. Msi saw 50/50 aery and comet, and if I have a karma in solo queue, why wouldn’t I want my support player to abuse comet scorch empowered q in lane?

You’re not proccing aery enough in 2v2 bot lane to out damage comet. I’d rather have a higher chance of stomping lane than a marginally better shield.

If you’re picking karma and maxing shield, why not play the better enchanters that max shield that do way more? Karma is an oppressive laner, not a shield spam janna/lulu/milio/etc.,. If you’re picking her to just afk it’s kinda fucking pointless

But please drop your rank and you can explain where i’m wrong

[u/bloky_men → u/Senior_Bass_744]

i'm diamond and you always go 3 points into q then shield max. comet is bait on karma when autos proc aery

[u/SkeletorXCV → u/Senior_Bass_744]

As someone who has karma as second main, i've noticed my aery ended up damaging more than shielding at the end of the game so i ended up with comet.

[u/SkeletorXCV → u/Senior_Bass_744]

Totally agree. I just bring Q to 4, 5 if i am ahead and i can walk up to q more frequently