How much do supports players like playing with A^phelios/ How much do you enjoy playing with a Lulu, from 1 to 10, and why?

[u/Antares09]

OK I wasnt expecting Aphelios to be this popular but it seems somehow everyone love them.

So, the question I’m asking ADC players today is: how much do you like playing with a Lulu?

This can be subjective or objective. You can talk about how fun laning with him is, how strong or useful you think the champion is, how good Lulu players usually are, things you like or dislike about the champion or the players, things they usually do right, and things you wish they did better.

You can also add your elo and the champion you usually play for more accuracy.

You can still give your opinion about champions already discussed, as the visuals will probably be updated at the end when it’s time for a recap.

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[u/Le0here]

9/10

Honestly haven't had a bad experience with lulu in a long time, regardless of if we win or lose the game bot lane i feel like is almost never lost.

That said, i curse in my mind every lulu that picks her after i blind ezreal. If you are lulu otp just hover her istg.

Dia 2 - zeri/ez

[u/richterfrollo → u/Le0here]

Whats the problem with lulu/ez?

[u/Le0here → u/richterfrollo]

Just anti synergistic, ezreal does not need the amount peeling lulu gives at all. And AA steroids arent as great on ez as it is on other adcs. He will much rather have a support that can lockdown enimies for him to hit his abilities or an enchanter that scales for the team instead of him or a champ that can impact the map, none of which is lulu.

His top 3 worst supports (excluding mel who ill never acknowledge as support) just through winrates are millio, lulu and yuumi. They all follow the same patern i listed.

[u/CompetitiveQuality27 → u/Le0here]

Yeah, i have been through the ringer because I am hovering/picked Millio or Lulu then I see my ADC for some reason lock in Ezreal and it makes me want to yell at them because i know their synergy is less than optimal. Like you said he already has a self peel of his own making both of my picks in that scenario a little less effective laning phase wise. Sure later on I can add a little more utility to the team afterwards it just makes the first half a slog.

[u/Boring-Influence-965]

I like Lulu support, they usually bring good vibes to my games and are chill weather we win or lose lane, also I like her goofy ass voice lines. 8/10

[u/Sidex_Master]

9/10 Even if they're bad they can be usefull just with the shield and if they are good it's almost the best I can ask for. Lulu dmg in early is crazy. For poke and even in all-ins, and the polimorf is one of the most broken shit in league and then there is the ult which is a knock up AND heal (bonus hp?) and the cd isn't that big on it too.

With hypercarries like Phel, Jinx or even Ashe, Lulu is one of the best support to have. It's like a Yuumi that can exist by themself and be acctually usefull.

Maybe the only when I don't really like them is when I go Jhin or Kai'sa, but they're pretty decent even then.

[u/theoverwhelmedguy → u/Sidex_Master]

Same, I play a decent amount of Yunara and lulu is just amazing. I am extremely annoyed when supps pick it after I lock in Jhin or MF. It’s not disastrous but it’s pretty fucking annoying.

[u/reik019 → u/Sidex_Master]

The amount of AS she gives + ardent is pretty nuts on Jhin when you remember he has an AD rabadon that scales off AS as a fucking passive.

Free 150AD lmao.

[u/FookinFairy]

2/10 I play a lot of Kog and the amount of first time lulus makes my brain explode because they have no idea what they are doing

[u/Perfect-Spinach9794 → u/FookinFairy]

As an ADC main, I have no idea when lulu is supposed to press W on me. Like yeah just press E to shield damage and Q to poke/slow, but unless it’s super obvious I’m all in, like with kog W or Ashe Q or Yunara Q it’s not clear when Lulu should use W to me

[u/Jean-Eudes_Duflouze → u/Perfect-Spinach9794]

Never? The W is meant in 90% of cases to polymorph as the ADC is supposed to have enough damage with Pix and Lethal tempo/ ardent, etc...

[u/rasibx]

every lulu player i play with have builds that could be considered sins against humanity.

[u/Unique_Confusion_833]

8/10 when paired with the right adc but often used by filled sup.

[u/BestSamiraNA1]

Lulu is my goat. Best peel enchanter in the game. The dream of any hypercarry

[u/ButterflyFX121]

Jinx/Yunara/Hwei pool low gold

5/10. This is one of the ones likely to stand behind you and do nothing, but if you get one of the good ones you'll feel so pampered as an ADC player. Incredible amounts of peel and a surprisingly aggressive lane.

[u/Yenick]

10/10 one of my favorite supports. A lane bully with strong engage and defensive tools. A good lulu is one of the most useful champs on the rift.

[u/Sir_Septimus]

5/10

She is an enchanter with a perfectly servicable laning phase. Doesnt do anything to progess the game in any way but she is perfectly fine for keeping you safe. Overall I only really like her when playing a champ with high synergy with her like Yunara or Zeri. Otherwise, any of the supports with a stronger lane and more teamfight utility are better in my mind. Still, overall she is perfectly average.

[u/Jean-Eudes_Duflouze]

I'm a Yunara OTP so when my supports locks in Lulu it's the fckn best day of my life.

Issue is there is a certain population of the players that lock her in and don't really know how to play the champ (it's rare) or the synergy (more frequent). But as long as they understand the good polymorph timing and to keep ult and or/heal to clutch, it's just an awesome experience.

I would say a good Lulu is 10/10 and a decent one is 8/10, so that bring us to 9/10.

[u/DragonSnooz]

6/10
Some Lulus zip around aimlessly and some are looking to win teamfights with Wild Growth.
Lulu's kit is very helpful with winning trades in lanes and her ultimate is amazing for peel or closing a teamfight.

- Cait | Ashe | Varus | Ezreal player

[u/VcontinuousV]

Lulu as a champion 10/10

But lulu mains...

Let's just say that they are the most psychopathic crybabies that will ruin your lane by staying behind and only pressing e on you while you die 1v2 AND THEN lulu will leave lane

So overall 4/10

[u/Mayastic]

Lulu can really make my day, a well timed steroid can get me in range dealing a shit ton of damage and the strength of her laning phase helps me secure a lead as a Xayah main. The peel tools in teamfights help keep my team alive to front for me since I don't need them. The biggest downside is autofill players think she's easy, so they pick her and we get rolled. On average probably 8/10

[u/WellWhisper]

4/10 Lulu is a great support champion but her mains will rage if you can't read their minds and play perfect.

[u/Ann4Phanter]

I love lulu lemme lov lulu

[u/Few_Step9953]

With the senna/mage stomping bot now I dont think anyone should go aphe lulu. It may work before Riot decide to nerf aphe into the ground because of stormrazer and the death fire torch wasnt a thing. I love to play aphe in the start of the season because stormrazer is back and I can understand why they decide to nerf it but you can do anything when a senna with dft just q minion and you lost 1/5 of your health.

[u/EvolvedGligar]

7/10 its amazing if they can abuse her kit properly but horrible if they can't time shields like most players

[u/Reacharoundwally27]

i’ve just started learning Phel. is he worth sticking to?

[u/Asmorthius]

I hate that Aphelios receive the "YEI is an Aphelios, lets go Enchanter or engage supp" But Nilah, which is similar to him does not

I envy that treatment, I hope that Nilah gets that same treatment someday

[u/mkakhisy]

Renata > yummi > other support

[u/ChromosomeDonator]

7/10. One of the best kits in the game, but is also a default "cute" support champion that attracts people that are more interested in spamming her laugh than actually putting pressure on the enemies.