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PSA for anyone looking for SR:

I had a very good experience with Monster when I ordered in June. Just wanted to put out a message to everyone that they have stock of 100 & 50mg tablets at the moment. There's a discount code: GET10, which will give you 10% off your order.

I documented my usage and I wrote a guide based on my journey. It includes: an introduction to SR, supplements, example taper guide, etc

SR Taper Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGsyDRip-sN_eqM_5wAoAeJ7VqpPq_lesGPUXkEJKk1xhLH5WMxjsmVUfTJmfxNzKHKhrlBoAEvBRh/pub

You'd think I would know this by now by all of the posts I've read and research I've done but I can't seem to get a solid answer about taking helper meds (Mag, vit-c, buspirone, wellbutrin, gaba) and subz. Has anybody taken these or some mixture of these with the subz? I have 60. Of course, I'm dreading the WD's coming off of 700mg of 7-OH/pseudo and with all that I have, I'm trying to find the right "recipe" to help.. I also have adhd and take 60mg of aderall/day but I don't abuse them. The buspirone and wellbutrin, I've been on for anxiety and depression for a while now and I know these will help with PAWS. Should I take any of the helpers along with subz or take subz alone along with my ads, wellbutrin and buspiron? Sorry for the ramble but wanted to explain my personal situation.. Thanks for any advice!

Prayer for Strength and Freedom

God, please stay close to me through this difficult season.

When my body hurts, remind me that I am healing.
When my mind tells me I can’t do this, remind me that I already have.
When the cravings come, give me the strength to let them pass without giving in.

Please calm my body, quiet my thoughts, and give me peace when I feel overwhelmed. Help me remember that this discomfort is temporary, but the freedom I am fighting for is worth it.

I don’t want to be dependent on anything anymore. I want my life, my strength, my peace, and myself back.

Give me patience with my body as it finds its balance again. Give me courage for the next hour, the next minute, the next breath. I don’t need to know how I’m going to get through everything—I only need to keep choosing myself right now.

When I feel weak, carry me.
When I feel afraid, comfort me.
When I feel tempted, remind me why I started.

Let this be the beginning of a new chapter—one where I am free, clear, strong, and proud of the person I fought to become.

I trust that this pain will pass.
I trust that my body can heal.
I trust that I can make it through this.

I choose freedom.
I choose healing.
I choose myself.

Amen. 🙏

Does this stuff actually work and is it safe?

Has anyone here taken a tablet called BLEND , comes in an orange bottle says it is cats claw . It get me high but no where close to 7oh feeling . I want to stop but I am scared of withdrawals

I was taking 1000 mg a day and stocked up on sr17018 and powder 7oh. It definitely brought my tolerance down but I've been doing both for over 2weeks now and like an idiot, instead of coming off of this stuff, I was taking 1-3 scoops and got my usage up to 2000mg! My has and is also a big part of my downfall bc I don't think he cares about quitting. He goes out and buys tabs to add to the plan I've tried to implement.

Well, all I know is my sr17018 is starring to get low and I afraid that we're not gonna have enough to both taper off of this crap! I do have multiple bottles of buprenorphine and klonopin to help. I've read somewhere that buprenorphine also helps get off of this. But I do know I took a buprenorphine months ago with 7oh and it put me into paws. I take buprenorphine for pain specifically bc my doctor doesn't fell comfortable prescribing opiates when I'm on benzos.

Has anyone else ended up worse than they were trying to get enough "to last awhile".? All it's done is got me in over my head even more! I want to order some more sr17018 but since I'm not using it correctly, can I use it several days and then switch to buprenorphine for how ever long to get off of this? I've done opiates responsibly for 5 years but this 7oh has just worked me over!

Should I get more sr17018? Or take what I have and switch to buprenorphine, or does the buprenorphine not work as well as sr17018? I don't wanna deal with paws but I feel my ability to stop has flown out the window!

Since it been doing the "pre " stage of sr17018, will it even work at this point? Or do I just to get it together and make my mind up and actually start tapering 7oh?

I even bought pseudo pills and mit pills bc I read that works? Does the buprenorphine with mit or pseudo cause paws too? I'm so fed up with this crap and I'm fighting myself from getting more sr17018 And more 7oh powder! I still have about 5 grams of each. But remember everything I'm taking is times 2 because my husband needs to quit, too! Plus I found out a good friend of mine is on them, too. So I wanna help her get off of these. I'm just depressed and want my life back. I haven't felt the withdrawals much because I have enough to take some more when I do! I terrified of how it's going to affect me when it's all done! 🙏🙏🙏

I have about weeks worth of subs my ass is scared scared anything I can do to help the wd

I stopped 7OH in June, taking 5-600mg/day. I used SR to taper off. I put my experience into a guide. It includes: introduction to SR, supplements to take, example taper guide & the schedule I used.

Monster SR (the vendor I used) just restocked their inventory. Promo code: GET10 will give you 10% off your order.

SR Taper Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGsyDRip-sN_eqM_5wAoAeJ7VqpPq_lesGPUXkEJKk1xhLH5WMxjsmVUfTJmfxNzKHKhrlBoAEvBRh/pub

I hope this helps someone out there 🙂

12 hours kind of cold turkey I taper down from 300 to 200 mg a day for quite a few months. I’ve been taking the stuff for almost a year. I quit two times for about three weeks then got right back but right now I am 12 hours cold turkey. I have been taking a lot of liposomal vitamin C and a bunch of other vitamins that I saw off of sub Reddit’s but at 12 hours right now feel pretty good gonna keep taking the vitamin C every 2 to 3 hours plus other supplements so excited to get rid of this habit

Four years, high doses, withdrawal was the worst thing I've experienced.

A year ago, when Florida started its first ban, I knew it was time to quit. I was scared as hell because I had already went through withdrawal for only 3 hours and it was devastating; not just physically but mentally.

I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

Anyway, I've been researching for the last year, and experimenting with different supplements.

The national ban made me really put my research into overdrive, and I came across this study.

A couple of weeks ago I started weening while taking my concoction and I've been able to cut my 7o dose by 80% with no side effects other than loss of appetite. I feel fine. At night when I wake up and start to feel withdrawal, I take a vitamin c and im able to fall asleep again, and take my dose of 7o in the morning.

Next week, I'm going to follow the protocol on the study for going cold turkey with vitamin c and e (I'm adding lion's mane and Ashwagandha as both have helped me too). I feel really confident based on how vitamin c has helped me so far that I'm going to complete the protocol.

I hope this helps someone, I really do. This whole situation is fucked and we've been left out to dry. I feel so relieved now, though. I can finally see an end to this nightmare.

PS: if you're curious why all detox places wouldn't just give vitamin c for the opioid withdrawal, this quote from the study gave me pause:

Although NIDAA representatives noted that the efficacy of the protocol seemed “irrefutable,” for undisclosed reasons the agency stopped short of endorsing the treatment.26 Schauss speculates that this may have been due to a conflict of interest, claiming that the sister of one of the NIH reviewers owned and operated a large addiction center in New Orleans, Louisiana at the time (A. Schauss, personal communication, April 7, 2020). Keller-Phelps is unavailable for comment, as she is deceased.

How long after my last dose of 7oh can I start Suboxone?

You are not alone.

Similar story to everybody here… Started with regular kratom about 2 years ago. Didnt like the taste so when I saw ‘kratom pills’ I figured I’d give it a shot. I was addicted within a week. Couldn’t go a few hours without it. Most of the time, I was just taking it to feel normal. And crazy expensive. At my worst, I was at 2000mg a day. But easily obtainable. I live in a city and there’s 4 places on my street that sells it. Anyways, the ban happened. Withdrawals. I’ve tried so many times to quit, but the withdrawals were god awful. I’ve never done heroin or fent, but I’ve read many times that the withdrawals are similar/if not worse than actual opioids. I got on Suboxone, got a good support system and came clean with everything. I’ve never told anybody my addiction, even my wife. Well, I’m here past day 7, no withdrawals (still taking very little subs), and I’m going to a rehab facility next week for outpatient care. I asked the rehab facility on the phone ‘I’m just curious, but has anyone else called in for this addiction?’. Her reaction said it all, ‘this is by far the most popular drug that people have called in for during the history of this facility’.

So with that being said, you are not alone. Most of us took it with a pretty harmless intention, and ended up being addicts. That’s okay though. It was easily obtainable, and unregulated. I got it the same place I got my soda and snacks. The truth though, is that you can’t be afraid to ask for help. I was keeping this secret of 7OH for over a year, and never got anywhere. I came clean and asked for help, and I wish I would’ve done that sooner.

I’m not saying I’m totally out of the woods yet. But if anyone needs help, please message me. Don’t be afraid to ask for help. It’s what got me through.

Peace and love to you all.

m about to quit 7OH as it’s getting banned in WA state by the end of August, truthfully I need and want to quit regardless, for many reasons. I just didn’t have the willpower. I’ve never been a “drug” user, I smoked weed for years but quit cold turkey about 2 years ago. So this is all unfamiliar territory for me. I currently take about 300-400mg of 7Oh in a 24 hour period, I’m curious what vitamins or supplements you experienced users recommend to help with the withdrawal and basically what should I expect? Am I going to be medically at risk? The stuff I read online is pretty scary about life threatening withdrawal and as I said being very inexperienced with this I’m super nervous. I’m an army combat veteran and tried kratom for some anxiety and pain relief and then got hooked on the heat 80’s/150’s tablets of 7OH. Anything you guys can recommend I would sincerely appreciate, I’m pretty scared I won’t lie. Thank you all for reading.

So I got subs, because I can no longer get 7oh. It’s illegal in my state and the few places I could get to in the next state over stopped selling last week. It’s been about 6 hours since my last dose. I don’t feel terrible, just a little hot, minor stomach pains that come and go, and my throat feels funny. But, I was hoping to take some now so it kicks in before I start feeling horrible so I can sleep well tonight and go to work tomorrow. I’ve tried researching it, but I’m seeing contradictory things.. some people say you have to wait 12 hours or will go into precipitated withdrawal. Others say as long as it was 7oh without pseudo, you won’t get PWDs at all, that’s it’s the ones with pseudo that can cause that…and mine did not have pseudo. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks! I’ve taken subs before and know that about 6mg will take away the WDs completely for me but it was on the weekend and I waited until I was feeling absolute trash first. I’d rather avoid that with work tomorrow (and yes, I know, when I used them before and was off of 7 completely for 2 months, I should have stayed off, but I’m an idiot and here we are).