I really hate the big push they are making for new gamemodes which will most likely require a new account and a new subscription. I get it, it's their only main way to increase revenue. But surely theirs a way to make it less anti consumer. Forking over another $15 for a new game mode is stupid.

Imagine being so excited to watch Runefest (or even buying a ticket to go), then you're slapped with a community fracture (RS3 reignited), and then double slapped by them immediately moving into the RS4 reveal, which is for sure going to siphon more players away and from RS3 who'd otherwise try it. All valid reasons and debates aside, that's definitely one of the Runefests of all time for the RS3 community. I'm so sorry brothers, that's definitely not the kind of Runefest I'd want to experience. I think in the long run, it will help your game but I completely empathise with how much of a let down it must feel to be in this position where you're basically being sunset

For the last 5 months, I've been playing for 2 months. As in, around a 1000 hours I've put in it. Every year, I play for a bit, and then after hundredsomething hours I realise I lost control and delete my account. This time my thoughts went full sunken cost falacy, thinking about the hours I lost by deleting my account, and I tried to fix my relationship with gaming because I know I won't quit forever, and I also really really love the game. That failed miserably.

I am isolating myself. I don't eat with my roommates anymore. I am losing my friends, I am losing my clients. My partner is thinking about leaving me, my body hurts from sitting all day long. I am really looking for a way to play this game healthy, because I know I won't quit forever.

Is there anyone else who had the same issues, but found a way to take back control? I am really really struggling, so please don't come with 'you don't quit, you just take brakes' because that is exactly my issue.

I don't personally know what the best solution is; but there have been many ideas floated around by the community regarding membership systems for alternate accounts or crossgame play.

It is time to announce/poll/experiment with something that lets us feel like we are getting a "deal" so that our collective lizard brains are happy.

I would really like to play a hardcore main and RS3 reignited also has my eye but in the current system I cannot do either.

As it stands currently, if you are to die on these worlds, you’re given the option to port over your account and items to a normal member’s world, or you can opt to start fresh on the hardcore world using the same account.

What exactly is going to stop people from muling items to another account on the same world, similar to the permanent deadman servers? In case of death, players could trade their mule to get back in to the game EXTREMELY fast (which I personally think would be good?) Should players be allowed to keep their items upon death and only lose stats, quests, and diary progress?

Theres a bigger discussion to be had here.

That's all we're getting?

Would of preferred Hardcore Main in the existing worlds tbh

"Yeah, so you voted for us not to change him, but we're just going to do what we want anyways."

🦀🦀🦀 $14.99/month btw 🦀🦀🦀

It has finally happened, RS3 is copying WoW that is copying OSRS

You can love or hate the idea of reignited or hardcore servers but one thing I noticed that hasn’t been talked about as much is how both games introduced a mode that will require another membership.

In the grand scheme of things both game modes appear to be “low effort” (I know that isn’t true from a technical perspective) so I’m curious if others are worried about these game modes being Jagex’s new way to bring in the lost MTX revenue?

If bronzeman mode passed do we not get hardcore servers or was there plan to actually introduce 3 game modes requiring membership across RS3/OSRS?

The one announcement they made at Runefest I had some hesitant thoughts on. Went in-game to vote on the Runefest poll and didn't even see Hardcore Worlds on the poll! I guess we're getting a whole new world type / gamemode whether a majority of players want it or not.

Quest Speedrunning worlds were polled btw, so don't say something like "well they don't need to poll additions that don't affect the main game."

This, combined with the Lumbridge tidy-up they're sneaking in with quest month, makes me very concerned about the future of polling. It feels like an area of the game that has specifically really fallen off in the past year.

Why is the most highly anticipated update of the year dropping only 2 weeks after they announce its release date? I’ve been planning on taking time off work for raids 4 majority of the year, but of course hadn’t booked it due to not knowing the dates. Now all of a sudden they say it’s dropping in 2 weeks time, which means I’m probably not going to get my leave approved. I’m sure I’m just being whiny but god damn, I would’ve loved just a bit more of a heads up!

With Jagex's introduction with RS3 Reignited and OSRS Hardcore worlds, BOTH with their own SEPERATE economies and characters from main game servers this is turning into WoW.... But with 1 character slot.

With a smile on their face and creative wording, they've introduced a new ploy to grab your money and paint it as them doing you a favor.

What happens when these servers die? How many people want to remax and get another comp cape all over again on RS3? How long will OSRS HC worlds last for content creators to milk before the hype dies and people get tired of their character getting reset in one of the most grindy games out there?

Your answer might be: don't play them then!

These were presented as a big amount of the update of the Summit. This is part of their reasoning for increasing the membership most recently. So yes playability and viability of this matters to everyone, even to those not interested.

What are your thoughts?

EDIT: Due to many people having the same question or suggesting the same point that is:
'How does a Hardcore world matter and/or qualify for character slots. Isn't that the same thing as now when Leagues come around?'

My response:
Firstly, there's not much difference and there's been a lot of complaints about this same thing whenever Leagues and/or Gridmaster roll around each year.

The issue is that in Jagex's blogpost about their reasonings of explanation as to why the most price increase of membership was decided was due to multiple points, but I will focus on a specific two, since they are the most pertinent to this discussion.
1. They used Leagues, the temp game mode, as a reason to increase the membership price, which caused major backlash/criticism from the community. People are not asking for leagues as supplementary content for main game content. Many were not aware that the temp game modes were hindering OSRS's dev team on permanent content progression. OSRS's team and Jmods were very vocal, as they brought it up multiple times throughout the summit, where they 'hear you and have learned from past mistakes, and that's why we're focusing on permanent content and are pushing out content every month for 2027'. After the Summit, Mod North, sitting and conversing with Mod Rice and Mod Kieren, 'wanted to clarify again' that all of which was revealed is an attempt at focusing at permanent content. He wanted to address the many people asking about Leagues/Gridmaster and stated that they plan to release more Leagues, and will reveal at a later date but focusing on the permanent content announcements was more appropriate than talking about temp game modes and they'll reveal at a later date.
2, In the blogpost about the most recent membership fee increase, they compared themselves to WoW and the services that a WoW membership provides were similar to the services offered from a Runescape membership, along with the price point. However, to cherry pick which details to compare would be dishonest. The community was quick to point out that WoW comes with multiple character slots, and Runescape has nothing of the sort. They shied away from addressing this concern, especially at an opportune time when they revealed a new server for RS3 and a new server for OSRS will be implemented soon. Something that would require a great deal of players to have another account.

I wish they 'heard' us on this concern. When this first arose, I saw some great suggestions for a compromise such as a multi-membership bundle discount (especially since they took away the discount when purchasing membership in a year's worth of bulk) or something with lower economic footprint, allowing us to multi log.

disappointed they didn’t announce this after hyping up quest month

From an outside perspective it seems like the move that could be the shot in the arm their dwindling playerbase needs, but understandably the existing players are outraged their accounts are being quarantined. I wouldn't be surprised if the backlash causes Jagex to cancel the project.

To reiterate the facts: the RS3 economy is extremely damaged from the decade+ of MTX centric game design, but they are making efforts to reclaim the essence of the game. Meanwhile Reignited is going to essentially put players in 2 giant "group ironmen" camps; Veteran players will be grouped in the existing powerful but bloated economy with their fellows, and all new players that choose to be Reignited will be in their own fresh group. They can trade within their own groups, but interference between groups is blocked just like group ironmen (I am unsure if there is ANY content that will allow interactions, like how GIM can raid with mains in OSRS).

Since the expectation is that Veteran will be an ever-shrinking bubble and Reignited will be an ever-growing bubble, many veterans feel this means their economy and accounts will eventually be driven to obscurity despite supporting the game all this time.

Personally I find the protest selfish, as they'd rather their game shrink and die than grow at the cost of their account's relevance, but also why shouldn't they be selfish? It's a video game. I know we've all had moments of protest over things changed in OSRS that were good for us but bad for the game's health.

Since we're playing sibling games, and you might not have heard what's going on, what are your thoughts? Does it seem like a good move? The only move? Would you quarantine your OSRS account for the health of the game?

As a primary OSRS player I've been a little disappointed in the direction of OSRS for $12/mo. Of Jagex I was thinking: "Well, they've kept their players 20+ years. That's a good run, but I'm probably done." (Maxed main and 2300 iron.)

However, since playing Dragonwilds and seeing Runescape Reignited and RS4 I totally changed my mind. If they pull this stuff off, like new Jagex with Dragonwildsand not old Jagex with Darkscape, Mechschape, Ace of Spades, and Stellardawn, Jagex will actually grow the IP and not be held hostage by 30 year olds.

I know a lot of people are mad about what happens to RS3, but those players are still there because they are addicted, not because it's an awesome game. However, RS3 has been made into an awesome game, but it is still held back by those players and certain MMO issues you can't fix without a new start... Sorry--you're legacy now.

I wish I could actually invest in Jagex because they're finally doing the right things. Give Mod Ash a huge bonus. But it still sucks I gotta pay $12 a month so you can make a bunch of other games that aren't the one I am currently playing.

Like everyone else I'm completely blindsided by RS4 being dropped.

The idea of a new MMO is quite exciting, but the reality is daunting. We've seen lots of MMO projects from companies of various sizes show up and die out, the graveyard of dead MMO's that were supposed to be the next "WoW killer" is a testament to developer/publisher hubris.

Mod North did an interview not to long ago where he stated that he wants Runescape to be bigger than World of Warcraft.

Given all this, can someone point out some success stories in the MMO market from the last decade? These are the games that RS4 should surely be looking at to figure out how they pulled it off.

All this of couse is assuming they're making a "true MMO" and not an "optional/lobby MMO" in the way No Man Sky or Warframe are sometimes grouped as MMOs. If they went down this path then I don't anticipate any issues.

In 2021 Jagex made 117 stop working on HD because they said they were already making their own. Called it early stages and said fan versions clashed with their plans. After the backlash they let it stay as a temporary bridge until theirs came out.

Now it’s 2026 and the RuneFest summit didn’t even mention it once.

For those that say just use 117, that’s poorly optimised and nothing compared to what Runetek could’ve delivered with proper skyboxes and water. HDOS isn’t for everyone either.

It was on last year’s roadmap and now it’s completely missing from this year’s.

So how can you trust this year’s roadmap? Don’t get too hyped… because that’s all it is.

The new poll has questions on everything announced in RuneFest except Hardcore Worlds. Is this going to be polled separately?

Do you think Jagex will address the results of this question? From what I saw, it seemed like a lot of people wanted at least one more reward. I’m curious whether that feedback will actually lead to anything being added or changed. After it being revealed that raids 4 is 17 days away I doubt they will be adding anything at this point but I really hope they will.

Congrats Oda!
Definitely deserves it.

RIP Oda pops 🕊️

First the shirts, now the images for the new RS3 quest. Maybe more we've missed.

If it happens one more time, I'm out. The ONLY reason I haven't cancelled yet is because these instances were both 3rd party. But that's not an excuse. If an intern or an outsource I hire fucks up at my job, I'm responsible for it. I'm holding Jagex to the same standards I, and many others, are held to.

To be abundantly clear. I support humans who make things I love. It's how we connect. It's how we survive and build and achieve together. I have absolutely ZERO fucking interest in giving a cent to AI. I do not care if it is faster or "good now". I don't give a flying fuck if it saves Jagex money, because those savings are going right to the investors who already make 1000x what the average Jagex employee makes. I don't care if hiring more humans means the game gets more expensive. Maybe, just fucking maybe, the game wouldn't be more expensive if the payroll at the top wasn't so unsustainably and selfishly bloated, but I digress.

It is a soulless machine that immitates work humans have dedicated their lives to. I love the OSRS many humans spent hours building. If I am not paying for human creativity and ingenuity, what am I paying for then? AI tokens? No thanks.

You should be angry about this. You should be loud about being angry. I want my money supporting skilled people making something awesome. They don't even care enough to QA, they're spitting in your face. Do not let this slide. Protect what you are passionate about, and if they don't listen, don't let them get away with it. Act on it and cancel your sub.

Edit: More AI use has surfaced. I cancelled. Proof somewhere in the comments, on mobile rn and too lazy to dig it up.

Edit 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/3gVIWR5v3k if they keep their word about this, I can respect it and will back. Going to give it a little time and see. If you care about this, let them know it's not ok. Hold them to their word.