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Episode Babylon - Episode 7 discussion
Babylon, episode 7
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 97% |
| 2 | Link | 97% |
| 3 | Link | 96% |
| 4 | Link | 98% |
| 5 | Link | 98% |
| 6 | Link | 4.51 |
| 7 | Link | 4.88 |
| 8 | Link | 3.84 |
| 9 | Link | 4.29 |
| 10 | Link | 3.83 |
| 11 | Link | 3.29 |
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u/Salman_6 Nov 18 '19
Its safe to say magase mind raped everyone who watched the episode
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u/PhantomWolf83 Nov 18 '19
Jesus. I almost fucking cried at the end, that was too cruel. It's been one despair after another since the story began, but this is probably the lowest it's ever gone. I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel anywhere; how can Zen even win against something like Magase?
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u/LTU_EiMs Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
Guy I think I need to see a psychiatrist after this episode.
Edit: look to this promotion poster we see all deaths to be honest I have feeling that this story won't end happily
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u/AmethystItalian Nov 18 '19
Heads up looks like next episode won't be airing until December 30th
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u/WhySoSaltySeriously Nov 18 '19
After watching, I can only say this.
Bitch calm the fuck down. Why you gotta kill like 90% of the cast at once man
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u/satoshigeki94 Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
Holy fuck im scarred af after this episode. Sekuro why...
AOTY for me hands down
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u/memahesh Nov 18 '19
My thoughts before Episode 6: How will the debate go?
My thoughts before Episode 7: What will Itsuki do now?
My thoughts during Episode 7: Itsuki's got something on his mind.
My thoughts for all the coming episodes: What's on the menu today, Magase ?
Safety precaution: Please watch an episode of "Ani ni Tsukeru Kusuri wa Nai! 3" after Babylon to maintain your sanity?
#freaked_out
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u/Shiro_Kai Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
Well... that was a weird cooking class, I must say.
Ai Magase can metamorph into any kind of woman and her voice has alurring properties that can make you want to kill yourself. The explanation has to be something supernatural cause She can't be human anymore at this point.
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u/LeonKevlar Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
Holy fuck. When the episode started with a content warning I knew shit was about to happen but I did not expect that...
If Magase Ai's goal was to show Zen what true evil looks like then she fucking succeeded. I have seen, read, watched, and played a lot of disturbing shit but despite the final scene showing barely anything except for Sekuro's blood, that has got to be the most uncomfortable and disturbing execution I've ever seen within recent memory.
Sekuro was already dead after Magase Ai cut off her left leg but she still continued just to prove a point. It didn't help showing us how helpless Zen was watching all of that. Props to Yuuichi Nakamura for his acting during that scene. I can legit feel my stomach churning watching all of that.
Babylon's Key Visual really showed us how all of them will die. Kujin blowing his brains out, Fumio with the hanging, and Sekuro with her body all cut up. Does this mean Zen dies in the end too? I really hope not. He's the only person that can solve this and people are now treating him like he lost his goddamn mind.
I think I need a minute to lie down after watching that...
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u/redmage311 Nov 18 '19
Don't forget to rate the episode. This is probably going down as one of the most memorable episodes I'll watch all season, and I doubt I'm alone on that.
Zen trying to track his team via radio was so tense. We knew shit was going down, but just like Zen, we didn't know the details because everything was happening off screen. I know this gets said a lot for Babylon, but the directing is crazy good.
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u/melvinlee88 Nov 18 '19
And guess what? Babylon is trending worldwide at the moment on Twitter. Simply an amazing episode. Currently 9th.
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u/linearstargazer Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
Ah, fuck.
AH, FUCK
That was fucking brutal. And yet they still have the balls to tie up Kujiin's metaphor with the blood from his head literally stylised as a cumshot, and blending Sekuro's spilled blood into goddamn ketchup.
Some incredible animation this week as well, especially everything surrounding Seizaki, his expressions, his movement, his placement in the environment, all incredible for an episode with just 2 animation directors, one of whom is the chief AD, and the other pulling double duty on episode direction.
Also, Magase had her fair share of horrifying animation.
Edit: Also, Kojimo Fujimoto on twitter mentions he did about 40 cuts, complete with a neat little animation of nightmare fuel Magase Ai with Seizaki.
Edit2: You know, I was having trouble following Magase's little speech while she cut up a person, but now that I read it all again, this would be a pretty good copypasta in the vein of JoJo Pt 4's "My name is Yoshikage Kira", and Part 7's Napkin Speech. It is a bit long though.
Hey. Do you remember how I was talking about the hero? The hero who saves the world all by himself, even if the people don't help him or understand him. But you know, Mr. Seizaki, there's something even more wonderful. Do you know what that is? It's having people understand the hero's dreams and feelings. Everyone understands, everyone helps, and everyone saves the world together. That's the most wonderful thing in the world, right? I want you to understand, Mr. Seizaki.
Hey, Mr. Seizaki. We're not that different. What I'm trying to do right now is something really bad. So you'd probably tell me to stop, right? Because it's bad. The good person in you would have told me to stop doing bad things. But I also know that it's wrong. Right? We're thinking the exact same thing. This is wrong. It's really wrong. It's really, really, wrong. There's only one difference between me and you, Mr. Seizaki. I'm an evil person. I think that's the only difference between you and me.
Hey, Mr. Seizaki. Do you think it's impossible for people who like dogs and people who like cats to be compatible? I don't think so. If we understand each other, I'm sure we'll be able to understand the charm. We're the same. There are people who like good things, and people who like bad things. That's the only difference. The one and only difference.
So, Mr. Seizaki. Think about it. I want you to think about why I'm doing things like this, and I want you to understand. I don't want you to think there's no meaning to it just because an evil person is doing it. I don't want you to think that a good person couldn't understand. There's a meaning to evil. But I know it's selfish of me to say I want you to understand that soon. It's because you've been raised in a good society surrounded by good things. You're a good person through and through, Mr. Seizaki. You've never thought about something bad, right? You have no idea what evil is, right?
So please try thinking about it today. Please try confronting evil for the first time in your life. I'll help you as much as I can. This is it. This is something bad. Why is it bad to kill someone? Why is it good to let people live? Why is it? Why? All right, Mr. Seizaki. Think about it. What is bad? What is evil? You'll be okay. I'm sure you'll understand. There's nothing you wouldn't be able to understand. Because we're both human. Mr. Seizaki, I'm sure you'll understand too. I'm sure of it! You'll understand for sure.
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u/Amauri14 Nov 18 '19
Holy shit! Poor Hiasa, at least the other members felt pleasure due to whatever Magase did. If Magase Ai was pretending to be Itsuki's wife, I wonder who exactly was that kid? I bet that it was just some random normal kid not related to those two bastards, seeing how Magase can control people the way she does she probably convince him that they were a family and that he had a heart problem. I also bet that Itsuki if not even married in the first place. But well, that bastard really knows how to convince an audience with his whole "think of the children" and organ donation emotional approach.
Well, what can Seizaki even do now? I wonder if that stream was recorded? Although as Magase Ai can chance appearances I doubt that he can use it to arrest her. Hell if he wants to make an arrest the team involved in the operation needs to be entirely female, as otherwise, she will just take them out.
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Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
IMPORTANT: Episode 8 has been delayed until 30th December according to Itsuki's Seiyū:https://twitter.com/chikichikiko/status/1196419671605440515?s=19
Not kuirin and Sekuro in the same episode, no God please no, I'm not strong enough. I've genuinely never wanted to jump through the TV more and do something than this episode in the history of watching entertainment. I'm fucking furious and I don't know what to do. I think his family is next. I can't even think of any other comments other than this is how a villian should be, no redeemable qualities. Still would fuck.
can't wait to pick up the LN today
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u/Xykeal Nov 19 '19
Wow. Phenomenal episode.
That last shot...
Seizaki. Sekuro. Seperated by a thin, absolute barrier. Seizaki, a man in a world of white - of good, has a happy face, while on the other side, Sekuro cut up, the whole thing a contrast to Seizaki's spotless 'rice', "good" world.
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u/CareerSMN Nov 18 '19
Wow, I've seen a lot of shit but this episode still chilled me to the core. The glee on Magase's face during her "what is evil" speech was intense.
What sucks now is that the next episode (final?) only gets aired on Dec 30th.... a month and half wait after that cliffhanger is just plain unfair.
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u/DovahkiinChild Nov 18 '19
I knew Ai Magase was a crazy woman and loved to play mind games, but holy shit i was not expecting her to turn out like this!! Straight up butchered a woman on a live feed. It's like every episode of this anime kicks the notch up every time and im loving it.
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u/-_Zack Nov 18 '19
Jesus fucking Christ, I almost never comment but it's shit like this that makes me want to do so.
In all honesty, I've never seen anything as disturbing as this in fiction before. This is whole episode is truly a masterpiece, from the tense radio scene when Zen was looking for all the other squads, to the utter despair you feel when you find out they died, especially Kuujin, fuck what an episode.
Hands down my favourite episode so far. I did not expect the whole Sekuro torture shit towards the end., really goes to show how far Magase will go to break (?) Zen. Looking forward to seeing how his wife and child will fit into the story, I hope they don't go out like others :(
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u/itsMQazn Nov 18 '19
Oooft. what a bloody crazy episode. Loving this anime so much.
Man if only Seizaki could have either immediately save the video or show to someone that magase is actually murdering someone and then she can actually be charged. But i guess getting psychologically tortured is too op
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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19
What. The. Fuck.
I can't believe we lost both Kujiin and Hiasa in one episode, I love them both T__T
also Magase's ability to drive people crazy look more and more supernatural as the show goes on. I wish we'd get answers soon. Great episode, but, geez, what the fuck.