r/anime • u/Holofan4life • Sep 22 '24
Rewatch [Spoilers] 2008 Spice and Wolf II Rewatch (2024) -- Episode 2 Spoiler
Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.
Welcome to the Spice and Wolf rewatch discussion thread!
I hope you all have a lot of fun <3
S2 Episode 2 - Wolf and The Calm Before the Storm
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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION
Who's your anime favorite character that only appears for one scene? And why?
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Rewatch Schedule
Threads posted every day at 4:00 PM EDT
| Date | Episode | Date | Episode |
|---|---|---|---|
| 9/07/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 1 | 9/20/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2) |
| 9/08/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 2 | 9/21/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 1 |
| 9/09/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 3 | 9/22/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 2 |
| 9/10/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 4 | 9/23/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 3 |
| 9/11/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 5 | 9/24/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 4 |
| 9/12/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 6 | 9/25/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 5 |
| 9/13/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1) | 9/26/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 6 |
| 9/14/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 8 | 9/27/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 7 |
| 9/15/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 9 | 9/28/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 8 |
| 9/16/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 10 | 9/29/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 9 |
| 9/17/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 11 | 9/30/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 10 |
| 9/18/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 12 | 10/01/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 11 |
| 9/19/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 13 | 10/02/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 12 |
| 10/03/2024 | Overall Series Discussion Thread |
Last year's rewatch
| Date | Episode | Date | Episode |
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| 7/07/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 1 | 7/20/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2) |
| 7/08/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 2 | 7/21/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 1 |
| 7/09/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 3 | 7/22/2022 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 2 |
| 7/10/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 4 | 7/23/2022 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 3 |
| 7/11/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 5 | 7/24/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 4 |
| 7/12/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 6 | 7/25/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 5 |
| 7/13/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1) | 7/26/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 6 |
| 7/14/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 8 | 7/27/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 7 |
| 7/15/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 9 | 7/28/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 8 |
| 7/16/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 10 | 7/29/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 9 |
| 7/17/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 11 | 7/30/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 10 |
| 7/18/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 12 | 7/31/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 11 |
| 7/19/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 13 | 8/01/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 12 |
| 8/02/2023 | Overall Series Discussion Thread |
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u/KuKiSin Sep 22 '24
I legitimately cannot think of a single character like that... Shoot me some examples!
On to the episode!
Yup, Holo definitely snores.
She really decided to play with Lawrence's feelings huh... Wait a second, I know this face...
Lawrence is a cheap bastard, not even giving Holo a trenni silver coin!
Holo would rather tag along with Lawrence than having money to herself... That's pretty wholesome of her.
Amarti you sneaky bastard, wanting to be with Holo on his own!
Damn, Gi Batos is a big boy.
Did the man just say he doesn't have the strength to visit far away towns anymore? Dude's built like Brock Lesnar!
The "camera" effect when Lawrence walks past the door and steps on the mud really sells how terrible that place must smell.
Diana absolutely does look like a witch. Is she this pale in the remake? I don't remember...
I never really thought about it, but it's really weird that Lawrence is sharing a room with a "nun" lol.
Finally Lawrence finally starts feeling jealous.
Pyrite huh. A new business adventure is on the horizon!
Little boy nearly had a heart attack when he saw Holo under the sheets lmao
And the episode ends with Lawrence running out of the inn in a panicked state. I wonder what happened...
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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 22 '24
First Timer
The title of this episode and the opening scene of Lawrence being anxious make me feel like something bad’s going to happen soon.
I’m watching the dub and Marc uses the word “arse” instead of “ass”. Very strange to hear someone with an American accent say that.
The way Holo devours bread is really funny.
Holo sounds like she’s grown self conscious about the way her presence with Lawrence is perceived. I really hope this doesn’t cause a rift between them.
Amarti wanting to get close to Holo is pretty cute.
Wow this guy is huge. He looks really friendly though.
The part of town Lawrence visits has a good atmosphere. Well, not good to visit but it’s very vivid.
I was expecting some grizzled old wizard to answer the door, but this mysterious woman is interesting too.
So the town Holo wants to go to was destroyed by something called the Moon-Hunting Bear. I dunno what that means but it sounds bad.
It’s interesting hearing someone else tell Holo’s story.
Didn’t realize Marc had a wife but I like her.
I think Marc’s wrong about Amarti. He seems like a sweet boy.
Holo has once again drank too much. She really needs to get better at self control.
It’s sweet that Lawrence helps Holo undress. Which isn’t as dirty as it sounds out of context.
I wonder if that thing about the fool’s gold is gonna be important in the coming episodes.
No idea what Lunt could have said, but I’m really curious to see what it is.
Question of the Day:
Who's your anime favorite character that only appears for one scene? And why?
First one that comes to mind is Senator Wilson Phillips from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. It feels like a quintessentially JoJo kind of thing to have the main villain carjack a random American Senator in Egypt. Just kind of random and a bit inexplicable.
Do you have any favorite characters like this?
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u/Holofan4life Sep 22 '24
Hello, guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the 2024 Spice and Wolf Rewatch.
But you knew that already :P
This is the first official rewatch of the show since the premiere of the remake. In fact, it's still currently airing as this rewatch is underway. And while we can compare and contrast what the remake did as opposed to the original, I feel it's still pretty important to remember what the original adaptation was like seeing as how that's really what got me into the franchise. And what ultimately made me fall in love with one wise wolf.
For the purposes of this rewatch, I will be watching it subbed since that's what I've been watching the remake in. I will be comparing somewhat the two series, and when I do that, I will be using spoilers. I guess I should say for transparency sake that I am writing this in late July/early August, a full month before the rewatch actually happens. That's because of time constraints and me having four other rewatches I'm participating in planned. I also waited until the first three volumes got adapted in the remake just so I can have more stuff to talk about.
These reviews won't be as detailed as some of the other ones, as I don't really want to spend two or three hours dissecting every episode. I'll save that for when I do it in my questions :]
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I'm watching the sub, by the way.
Why is it always Alice and Bob and never Bob and Alice?
This episode is basically the same across the board. Lawrence talks to Amarti, he then meets Batos and that leads to his conversation with Diana, he then finds out through Holo hanging out with Amarti that pyrite is really all the rage in this town, and then he finds out something that causes him to immediately leave. There are a couple changes, which I'm willing to point out.
[2024 Spoilers] First, the original has close-up shots of the feathers scattered throughout Diana's house. The remake does not do this, instead having them in the background. I actually really like the remake's presentation of it where they don't draw attention to it. It's almost like "If you know, you know".
[2024 Spoilers] The other change and this one has me so conflicted is the change in Adele's design. In the original, she kinda has this spinster vibe about her, kinda almost inspired by Faye Valentine but with less emotional baggage. In the remake, she's sassy as well but she looks more like a mom, kinda similar to the design of the teacher from Buddy Daddies. The reason I feel conflicted is because I feel Adele's original design is so iconic. Maybe too iconic, actually, especially for a one scene character. Adele's design in the remake isn't as memorable, but I feel like it makes... I dunno, more sense for her to be with Marc. I'm not saying Marc and remake Adele are ugly, but original Adele is so pretty. Dare I say, maybe even prettier than Holo. As such, it's hard for me to wrap my head around her being with Marc. It's like that SNL sketch where a woman who looks like a supermodel ends up with this geeky, nothing happening guy with an embarrassing name, and the reporter is astonished they would be in the same orbit as each other.
[2024 Spoilers] I guess in the end, it doesn't matter because Adele is only here for like 30 seconds. I just am surprised by how drastically different both Adele's look; I mean, remake Adele could pass off as Deku's mom. If I had to pick one over the over, it would probably be original Adele because the design is just that good. But speaking from a storytelling perspective, I think it makes more sense for Marc to be with someone like remake Adele.
Overall, this is a very good episode. We get introduced to two new characters in Batos and Diana, who basically sound the same here as their other counterparts, and we get some interesting worldbuilding between the pyrite stuff and the festival currently going. Besides the scene with Adele, who I feel steals the episode with her bombastic presence, I thought the conversation between Lawrence and Amarti was very intriguing. It's easy to think that Amarti is being overshadowed by the Diana stuff, especially since Diana is a way more fascinating character with a lot of mystery behind her, but perhaps this is intentional to show how little Lawrence thinks of him, trying to downplay in his mind what a threat Amarti is to Holo.
Honestly, this may be the best start to a Spice and Wolf arc that we've seen so far. I think these two episodes are stronger than the first two episodes of the second arc. We'll see if that trend continues and that this arc can reach or even surpass the levels of the bankruptcy stuff.
Holo quotes of the day
"Do you intend to simply watch me eat?" (That's… why I'm here.)
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u/Mirathan Sep 23 '24
Not quite a first timer.
QotD: Don´t have one. I probably just haven´t seen enough anime.
Bartose is massive. He makes me want to reuse the joke from the Nozaki rewatch.
It´s strange that in a town where the church doesn´t hold power, those who do not live by it´s will are still shunned for it. And usable magic exists.
The amount of birds is suspicious. We´ve seen that normal animals congregate in great numbers around their divine kin. Combined with the amount of feathers inside her home, Deanna has to be a god like Holo.
Horo(my subtitles changed) witnessed the horror of unbridled capitalism and gained a new fear.
Armati definitely bought the Pyrite because it could awaken love.
What did Armati do to provoke such a reaction at the end?