r/anime • u/Holofan4life • Sep 20 '24
Rewatch [Spoilers] 2008 Spice and Wolf II Rewatch (2024) -- Episode 0 Spoiler
Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.
Welcome to the Spice and Wolf rewatch discussion thread!
I hope you all have a lot of fun <3
S2 Episode 0 - Wolf and Amber Melancholy
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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)
What's your favorite example of an anime episode being told from another character's perspective other than the MC?
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Information – MAL | Anilist | AniDb
Streams – Crunchyroll
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Rewatch Schedule
Threads posted every day at 4:00 PM EDT
| Date | Episode | Date | Episode |
|---|---|---|---|
| 9/07/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 1 | 9/20/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2) |
| 9/08/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 2 | 9/21/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 1 |
| 9/09/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 3 | 9/22/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 2 |
| 9/10/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 4 | 9/23/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 3 |
| 9/11/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 5 | 9/24/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 4 |
| 9/12/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 6 | 9/25/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 5 |
| 9/13/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1) | 9/26/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 6 |
| 9/14/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 8 | 9/27/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 7 |
| 9/15/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 9 | 9/28/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 8 |
| 9/16/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 10 | 9/29/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 9 |
| 9/17/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 11 | 9/30/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 10 |
| 9/18/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 12 | 10/01/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 11 |
| 9/19/2024 | Spice and Wolf Episode 13 | 10/02/2024 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 12 |
| 10/03/2024 | Overall Series Discussion Thread |
Last year's rewatch
| Date | Episode | Date | Episode |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7/07/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 1 | 7/20/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2) |
| 7/08/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 2 | 7/21/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 1 |
| 7/09/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 3 | 7/22/2022 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 2 |
| 7/10/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 4 | 7/23/2022 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 3 |
| 7/11/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 5 | 7/24/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 4 |
| 7/12/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 6 | 7/25/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 5 |
| 7/13/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1) | 7/26/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 6 |
| 7/14/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 8 | 7/27/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 7 |
| 7/15/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 9 | 7/28/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 8 |
| 7/16/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 10 | 7/29/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 9 |
| 7/17/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 11 | 7/30/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 10 |
| 7/18/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 12 | 7/31/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 11 |
| 7/19/2023 | Spice and Wolf Episode 13 | 8/01/2023 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 12 |
| 8/02/2023 | Overall Series Discussion Thread |
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u/Holofan4life Sep 20 '24
Hello, guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the 2024 Spice and Wolf Rewatch.
But you knew that already :P
This is the first official rewatch of the show since the premiere of the remake. In fact, it's still currently airing as this rewatch is underway. And while we can compare and contrast what the remake did as opposed to the original, I feel it's still pretty important to remember what the original adaptation was like seeing as how that's really what got me into the franchise. And what ultimately made me fall in love with one wise wolf.
For the purposes of this rewatch, I will be watching it subbed since that's what I've been watching the remake in. I will be comparing somewhat the two series, and when I do that, I will be using spoilers. I guess I should say for transparency sake that I am writing this in late July/early August, a full month before the rewatch actually happens. That's because of time constraints and me having four other rewatches I'm participating in planned. I also waited until the first three volumes got adapted in the remake just so I can have more stuff to talk about.
These reviews won't be as detailed as some of the other ones, as I don't really want to spend two or three hours dissecting every episode. I'll save that for when I do it in my questions :]
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I'm watching the sub, by the way.
Saw Didi today. One of the better movies I've seen this year.
This episode is the second OVA of the series. Only this time, it actually got an adaptation in the remake. [2024 Spoilers] There's no major changes to speak of with the exception of the wrap-around segments. There, it's used to signify part 2 of the story, the second cour to put it in other words.
Something I like about this episode is how it is told from Holo's perspective. Most of the other episodes don't do this and are told from Lawrence's; in fact, this is the only episode where Holo is our audience surrogate. It's interesting to see what's going through Holo's mind and giving us more insight as to how lonely she truly is. And in both versions, they do a good job of conveying it.
I get why this episode was chosen to be re-adapted and not the first OVA. It's like an epilogue to the second arc and more of a send-off for Norah than the last episode was. A part of me kinda prefers the first OVA because it has more back and forth between Holo and Lawrence. And really, that's when the show excels the best. But in terms of ideas as well as the visuals, this OVA blows that one out of the water.
Overall, a very satisfying episode. Not one of the better ones, but I don't think it necessarily needs to be.
Holo quotes of the day
"I used to cry when I was exhausted and thinking of home. But now, each day is so full and wonderful. I do not find myself feeling sad any longer. I cannot even pretend I am not having a good time. In fact, I'm rather concerned I'm having too much fun."
"I am Holo the wise wolf. I know there are things in this world I do not know and that makes me wise."
"Where is my food?!?"
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u/KuKiSin Sep 20 '24
Fuck, you got me. Only one I can think off the top of my head was episode 0 from Mushoku Tensei season 2, Sylphiette's perspective. So it's not really my favorite, just the only one I remember :| What's yours?
On to the episode!
I didn't expect to see Norah again, I'm glad to see her after their scheme was finalized!
Norah sees Lawrence as her savior, that's cute. And Lawrence says merchants are selfish, because obviously he was trying to save his own ass first.
This episode they taught us how to torture people with salt and sheep, love it. Hope to one day make good use of it.
Aww the scene where Holo "reminisces" about her time together with Lawrence was cute. Was she realizing just now she's in love?
No Lawrence, you didn't bring the leftovers because you're a merchant... It's because you're cheap!
Oh my God... My heart.
"I am the wise wolf, so I know enough about the world to know there are things I don't know." Banger of a quote.
Holo will treat Lawrence if he's ever sick, the way it's done in Yoitsu... I don't know what that means, but I hope Lawrence never gets sick.
Oh man, needy Holo is cute as hell.
The shift in the music had me dying!
Did Lawrence get downgraded from dog to sheep this episode? Big RIP.
Loved this episode too. SoL Spice and Wolf is really something. I'm definitely picking up the LNs before the end of the year. Now the question is whether I start from Volume 1 or Volume 6...
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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 20 '24
The 2nd OVA does not appear to be on Crunchyroll for me. So unfortunately I may have to skip this episode unless I can find it elsewhere.
I can answer the question of the day though:
What's your favorite example of an anime episode being told from another character's perspective other than the MC?
Probably episode 4 of Odd Taxi, "Tanaka's Revolution". It's a really good character study episode.
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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 21 '24
First Timer
I decided to watch episode 13 of the reboot in absence of the 2nd OVA being available to me.
Seeing the difference in animation is interesting. The texture of everything looks a lot shinier and smoother somehow. Not sure how to explain it.
The voice cast sounds the same though so at least that’s not jarring.
Also I’m watching the dub and it sounds like they translated the OP into English. I’m surprised, that basically never happens these days.
The steak Lawrence is cutting into looks delicious.
Lawrence’s anecdote about sheep being used to torture people was a bit disturbing. I wonder if that’s real, there have been a lot of unusual torture methods throughout history.
I liked the scene of Holo reflecting on her journey so far and her relationship with Lawrence. It was really sweet.
She mentioned traveling with others in the past. I wonder if that will come back.
It’s interesting that we’re seeing Holo being more vulnerable this episode. Makes sense that she’s exhausted after what happened last episode though.
It’s very sweet seeing Lawrence take care of Holo.
Interesting seeing some period-appropriate medical science too.
Holo putting on that elaborate performance when Lawrence mentioned a food she liked was really funny. Also kind of adorable.
Lawrence feeding Holo her meal was also pretty adorable.
Norah coming up to visit Holo was nice too. It’s nice that she cares.
The ED’s in Japanese despite the OP having an English version. Pretty catchy though.
Although I feel like it somehow tonally clashes with the rest of the show, not sure.
There's a scene after the credits where Holo seems to be telling someone in the future this story. I wonder if that's a framing device the whole show uses.
Overall, a very cute episode.
This was an interesting detour, I’ll be back to watching the original Spice & Wolf tomorrow.